OK Jed, No, I do not think the government does anything for progress. The problem is that we give them all the resources. The result is that we fail to make changes at a pace we otherwise could. I am the first to agree that many people in the government are good and provide a service well within the expectation. Every year we employ more and more people in that sector, then we request more resources and that enables more employees in this enormous organization. Maybe it starts with more resources but the cycle is there. Of course there are good, able, willing people in the organization.The problem is that the guidelines are changing. The primary guideline is CYA. You said so your self ' No one gets money by revolting. They just fire you. '. Sad isnt it? I am not giving you any list. Mills and Defkalion are others for example. However, that is not the issue. The thing is that entrepreneurial skills gets killed in the bureaucracy. Fleischman was of course revolting. He did not succeed in Toyota either you say. That should come as no surprise; that is another (too) big organization and the rules are the same as in government.
I am not rewriting history. As you say facts are facts. Any progress initiated within a large organization has an uphill battle. It has its pros and cons a sieve if you will that let good ideas that sustain the process to succeed while stopping others is the positive thing. However, its format is totally devastating for radical changes and risk taking. All I am saying it needs to be a balance. Unfortunately we are skewing the balance and eliminating the possibilities for 'progress by revolution' (my expression not literally meant) in favor of 'progress by evolution'. Just to think about; ' Organizations cannot make result but people can'. This in response to your statement about how all good ideas are born by the government in GB and the US. Sorry, that reminds me about when I was in the sandbox and the adversary said 'my dad is bigger than yours'.:) You said 'Rossi would not *exist* were it not for Fleischmann and Pons! Plus he got a lot of help from Focardi and other government researchers. He may be ahead of government researchers now, but they discovered the effect.' Yes, if almost all resources are within one organization, then people in that organization make contributions some more (get zapped) and some after CYA can still work in government. BTW are you including the Italian government in the sphere of GB and the US? Long time since I visited but that government works a little different:) Then you say that government are entitled to 'steal' (my expression) the show as they have monopoly but no factories. I am not commenting - your statement is enough. You go on saying: (as a response to those among us that think government suppression of technology is a reality) 'That is not possible. This can only be done with patents, and patents are public by definition. If there are no patents then other countries will take the technology for free.' It has happened many times, in the US and Russia more than elsewhere. I am not a believer of that will happen with LENR. Your ideas about patents are naive. Patents are a good source for information and protects nobody. They do create wealth - for lawyers. A well documented patent written by somebody with small resources (an entrepreneur/inventor) will be immediately stolen. Countries will issue patents to protect their own industry and therefore eliminate the protection you are dreaming about. I am not sure about the next but I do think there is a provision for the government to suppress technology by classify it as a 'national interest' in the US. In my opinion that is terrible. What is national interest? Is there an interest to allow some but not others? (Reminds me about Orwell and that 'All animals are equal' - '*but pigs are more equal*'. I thought WWll showed that it does not hold water - we are all on the same planet and need to find ways to co-exist. That requires less envy and more empowerment of others. It is NOT a zero sum game. It is the opposite - the more you put in for others the more you will gain. I could respond to all your statements about the government but it all ends up as; Organizations cannot make result but people can. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wrote: > > >> Read about Fleischmann; sounds to me like an entrepreneur. F was >>> certainly not supported by the government. >>> >> >> He was a professor at a national university his entire working life. The >> University of Southampton is a public research university. He never worked >> for anyone other than the British Government. >> > > Correction: He worked for Toyota (IMRA) for a while in France after he > retired from U. Southampton. That did not end well. > > - Jed > >
