Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Axil Axil
There is some sort of radiation coming out of Rossi's Mouse reactor that stimulates the unpowered Cat reactors. Maybe pions and muons... how can we tell now that MDMP has a reactor that maybe is functional at a Mouse level COP of 1.2 On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Jones Beene

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Jones Beene
Bob, Isn’t the reality check that eliminating a cosmic ray contribution means the expected gamma counts are going to be too low to impress anyone? However, I am very glad you are going to the trouble – if you also test for radiation (all types) with and without the enclosure, and then

Re: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Axil Axil
You can get a idea about that by considering how much power is required to sinter a pile of 5 micron nickel particles that were welded together by a rare earth doped tungsten rod and a sintered 100 micron nickel particle was produced. Some of that rod vaporized and coated the surface of the 100

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Russ George
Bob, our solution to the cosmic spallation creating neutrons from lead was to move the lead far away… no lead no neutrons… I shared that story only to tell how easy it is to fuss about small signals… sometimes the signals are ‘relatively’ large for the instrument but meaninglessly tiny for you

Re: [Vo]:Heating of iron rod at proximity of spinning magnet

2016-02-28 Thread Vibrator !
Iron / steel has much higher resistance than copper (so-called resistance wire for domestic heating elements is usually steel). Resistance heating due to eddy currents is the only source of heat in induction; domain flips are fueled by ambient phonon exchanges (the principle exploit in MCE

Re: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread H LV
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:44 PM, Axil Axil wrote: >> >> >> In the Lugano test dosimeters were used to check for gamma/xray >> emissions at more than 50 cm from the reactor. (see Appendix 1) >> http://amsacta.unibo.it/4084/1/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf >> I don't understand all the

Re: [Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Axil Axil
> > > > In the Lugano test dosimeters were used to check for gamma/xray > emissions at more than 50 cm from the reactor. (see Appendix 1) > http://amsacta.unibo.it/4084/1/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf > I don't understand all the jargon but over the 32 day duration test it > looks like the dosimeters

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Bob Higgins
Do you have a reference on this? Otherwise, a lead cave would not be useful - it is there to protect the sensor from the cosmic rays. My understanding is that the cosmic rays produce the neutrons by spallation. If the neutrons are absorbed in the lead, they will likely cause isotopic shift

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread H LV
If the spectrum from the MFMP experiment really does come from the reactor, and if MFMP reactor could run for 32 days without lead shielding would one have to sit right next to it for the entire time for it to be harmful? Harry On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Bob Higgins

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Higgins * Jones, the moral of the story is that the large amount of lead (and it probably took a whole lot for the HPGe detector) converted some of the cosmic rays into a small neutron flux. Bob, as the thesis clearly states – the neutrons then are absorbed by the lead,

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Bob Higgins
Jones, the moral of the story is that the large amount of lead (and it probably took a whole lot for the HPGe detector) converted some of the cosmic rays into a small *neutron* flux. MFMP did not measure neutrons. The Lugano evaluation only made intermittent spot checks for neutrons - they found

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Jones Beene
Thank you for confirming this detail. For some reason, it seemed not to be getting though. Get rid of the lead and the signal will disappear. -Original Message- From: Russ George Many years ago in the early days of cold fusion I was running an experiment at Los Alamos. We had a high

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: H LV > If it is do due cosmic rays then it is quite a coincident that it happens > just when the reactor enters phase 7. No coincidence at all. Please notice that section 7 is NOT the zone of greatest gain. Just the opposite - it is the zone of greatest

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Russ George
Many years ago in the early days of cold fusion I was running an experiment at Los Alamos. We had a high quality Germanium gamma detector and a neutron detector. The neutron detector was old but good though it printed it's data counts onto a paper tape. It had been calibrated in another lab

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread H LV
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > -Original Message- > From: H LV > >> In the Lugano test dosimeters were used to check for gamma/xray emissions at >> more than 50 cm from the reactor... over the 32 day duration test it looks >> like the

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Bob Higgins
Well, this is partly true. Only charged particles will come to rest quickly and generate Bremsstrahlung. Protons, because they are so heavy compared to an electron, must be 1800x the energy of the electron to have the same initial velocity. Then the heavier proton will basically decelerate 1800

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread H LV
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:58 PM, Russ George wrote: > The photo of the detector placement has helped to understand this mystery > > As far as 'breaking radiation' aka Bremstrahlung, any form of energetic > particle coming to a halt produces that characteristic signal,

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Russ George
The photo of the detector placement has helped to understand this mystery As far as 'breaking radiation' aka Bremstrahlung, any form of energetic particle coming to a halt produces that characteristic signal, whether they are crazy heavy muons or speeding electrons...or ??? Neutron clusters or

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread H LV
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 6:44 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > -Original Message- > From: H LV > >> In the Lugano test dosimeters were used to check for gamma/xray emissions at >> more than 50 cm from the reactor... over the 32 day duration test it looks >> like the

[Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Jurich
Here's a top view of the NaI Scintillator Head and the reactor/cell, with rulers (courtesy of Alan): http://tempid.altervista.org/GS5-2_test_setup2.jpg The [Detector/Lead Cave] are on a separate, heavy duty cart which may be rolled back if things get too hot or for repositioning. - Mark

[Vo]:Re: Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Mark Jurich
Hi Harry: The radiation level detected in the MFMP Reactor is very low. The Geiger Counter on the setup apparently did not detect it. The current calc/estimate shows the dosage was comparable (in some ways) to way less than a panoramic dental X-ray, anywhere over a total dosage period of

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Russ George
A much better test might be to add a more efficient 'crazy muon' receptor occluding perhaps half of the detector. Say a foil of silver or gadolinium. With such material the count rate might go up. How many cm away was the NaI from the source? Of course this presumes the signal can be

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Russ George
The number of nuclear events/radiations in the recent MFMP test is very very tiny, perhaps representing 1 million events in total , ??. Considering DD fusion as an example to make a single watt/joule of output requires e12 events it is no wonder that this signal is hard to observe. The

RE: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: H LV > In the Lugano test dosimeters were used to check for gamma/xray emissions at > more than 50 cm from the reactor... over the 32 day duration test it looks > like the dosimeters didn't record anything above background... If the MFMP > reactor resembles

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Bob Higgins
The sensors were placed relatively far away, and the total "dose" was low. For the electronic rate meters, they did not report what they detected, simply that it was below the alarm level that they had set (set where?). There was no spectrometry. On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 4:12 PM, H LV

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread H LV
In the Lugano test dosimeters were used to check for gamma/xray emissions at more than 50 cm from the reactor. (see Appendix 1) http://amsacta.unibo.it/4084/1/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf I don't understand all the jargon but over the 32 day duration test it looks like the dosimeters didn't record

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread David Roberson
Of course any strongly insulating material can be used in the application but it is much easier to design in an air gap between the surfaces. Now, once the device reaches a high temperature it is likely that water, which initially resides within the gap(actually I expect a leaky 3D container

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread Bob Higgins
OR, the materials in the stack of his flat plate reactor include a thermal resistance material. It doesn't have to be an air gap to provide the thermal resistance that would allow the fuel to be at a different temperature than the molten lead. On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 1:09 PM, David Roberson

Re: [Vo]:Bremsstrahlung radiation

2016-02-28 Thread David Roberson
Bob made an interesting video but I believe that his thoughts about melted lead surrounding the active cells are incorrect. It is much more likely that these core cells are operating at a very high external temperature of over 1000 C and radiation to a low temperature surface is the main

Re: [Vo]:Heating of iron rod at proximity of spinning magnet

2016-02-28 Thread Bob Higgins
Magnetic materials have hysteresis in the B-H curve that causes work to be done when the magnetic field changes. On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 11:34 AM, H Ucar wrote: > I observed dramatic heating of iron/steel rods of 2-4 mm diameter at 5 to > 10 mm distance to spinning Nd magnet

[Vo]:Heating of iron rod at proximity of spinning magnet

2016-02-28 Thread H Ucar
I observed dramatic heating of iron/steel rods of 2-4 mm diameter at 5 to 10 mm distance to spinning Nd magnet of medium size above 8000 RPM (poles nearly ortogonal to spin axis) where strong attraction is present. Motor consumes extra 2-3 watts on this load. Heat can rise to 80 degrees C in

[Vo]:LENR INFO FOR FEB 28, 2016

2016-02-28 Thread Peter Gluck
That is for today. I wish you a pleasant Sundayand I hope your favorites will win the Oscars! In LENR there will be prizes only in the next decade.. Now only Andrea Rossi gets a de Sade Prize for tormenting curious people. with uncertainty

Re: [Vo]:Big surprise or big dud ?

2016-02-28 Thread H LV
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > -Original Message- > From: H LV > > MFMP performed a great service by collecting and tabulating this data > What story do you read when you compare the active and null data sets over > time? My reading of

[Vo]:Another overlooked technology

2016-02-28 Thread Jones Beene
March 2016 marks 5 years since room-temperature superconductivity (RTSC) was first achieved by a researcher named Joe Eck and he is pissed - but the 27 years for LENR is more intolerable. This anniversary is bittersweet for RTSC as the scientific community persistently refuses to accept, vet or