That pretty well sums it up.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Craig Brown cr...@overunity.co
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Jun 6, 2013 12:11 am
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Why are pseudoskeptics so relentless in their mission to
debunk?
Naval scientist Eldon Byrd put it rather
From Roger B:
No, LENR and UFOs are not in the same category.
LENR has lots of physical evidence. The so-called
physical evidence for UFOs is very weak if not non-existent.
I disagree. They are very much in the same category. In many cases trying to
produce a LENR phenomenon has
Teh Google knows all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Sans
And see: http://bancomicsans.com/main/
[mg]
On Tuesday, June 4, 2013, Rich Murray wrote:
uh, what is Comic Sans ?
clueless in Imperial Beach, CA, Rich
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
Steven,
I meant that UFOs are merely a fascination or distraction for the rest of us.
I am sure that psychology therapy was probably necessary for those who
experienced it directly, especially the closer encounters.
Roger
From: orionwo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE:
What the font is going on here!! Do you think that I am some kind of
pathofont, or scripto-path. I think that it is a conspiracy of fontical
correctness. Do font companies hire you guys to try to promote their fonts.
You guys are all font deniers. I believe in FREEDOM OF FONTNESS.
(:-)
From: Roger B rogerbi...@hotmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 9:54:52 AM
What the f o n t is going on here!!
Much better ... but I know that you jest. Otherwise you would have included
block and shadowed fonts.
I can't do block and shadowed fonts. Perhaps I should switch to my other email
client and see if it has those features.
Roger
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:59:31 -0700
From: a...@well.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Why are pseudoskeptics so relentless in their mission to
Here is what I don't get about these people. Suppose cold fusion is a
mistake, or fraud. It is inconsequential. The worst that can happen is that
a few retired professors waste their time and Rossi steals some money.
I can understand why people get worked up about other scientific
controversies
There must be a reason, Jed, even if we don't know what it is. The only thing
that I can think of is that cold fusion is a threat in some sense to people.
If a BigFoot flying a saucer should land on the White House lawn and say (in
broken English), Howdy, it would cause a lot of excitement,
From Roger:
I meant that UFOs are merely a fascination or distraction for
the rest of us.
Agreed.
I am sure that psychology therapy was probably necessary for
those who experienced it directly, especially the closer encounters.
I'd say some do need counseling from experienced
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 8:01 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
I suspect this phenomenon has been around for a very long time… perhaps
since we first became sentient.
And maybe how we became so.
On Wed, 5 Jun 2013, Jed Rothwell wrote:
They only reacted this way to cold fusion. I will never
understand why.
Well, CF is an example of traditional alchemy: transmutation of elements
via basic chemistry. If CF is real, then not only does this demonstrate
that modern chemistry has a huge
Robert Park is 82
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_L._Park
In my cabinet I have a bottle to celebrate his no longer finding a use for
oxygen.
Also..I will debunk his death...as will others.
Ron Kita
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:06 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jun
Naval scientist Eldon Byrd put it rather succinctly when he said –
“What major contribution has any sceptic made to the betterment of
humankind? How many Mother Teresa’s have they produced? How many great
scientific discoveries have they made? Many of them are like movie
critics–useless and
The Bob Park of his dayRichard van der Riet Wooley
(Astronomer Royal) Fellow of the Royal Society, Gold Medal of the Royal Astronomical Society
“The whole procedure [of shooting rockets into space]…presents
difficulties of so fundamental a nature, that we are forced to dismiss
the notion as
If CF is real...
... and all the young students will want to emulate famous chemists (or
famous crazy gold-makers).
more likely engineers!
After all, it may very well be an engineer who gets to market first...
;-)
-Mark
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From: William Beaty [mailto:bi...@eskimo.com]
I can talk crazy too, here's my 5¢.
In addition to the powerful energy lobbies, I believe CF would unlock
new physics, and that means new weapons. Now that could be kind-of-OK
if developing those new weapons requires nation-state-level funding
for decades, but if it allows any Joe McTerrorist to
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Here is what I don't get about these people. Suppose cold fusion is a
mistake, or fraud. It is inconsequential. The worst that can happen is that
a few retired professors waste their time and Rossi steals some money.
I
A question that hasn't been asked is WHY many pseudoskeptics seem to pursue
rabid vendettas against issues like UFOs, or CF LENR, relentlessly so. I
suspect they do so because they have ironically misplaced the specific
audience they are actually trying to convince. Pseudoskeptics think they are
Did you just say this: skeptopaths need to tear everyone else down so that
they can feel superior. Or: skeptopaths are afraid of anything outside of the
box, so they try to get you to come back in. Or: skeptopaths hate anything
that might offer hope. Or: one skeptopath I know has severe
It is interesting that it is seldom the other way round.
Someone who believes in something might want to share with others who are
open minded, but they have little interest in converting so-called
skeptics, they don't seek them out.
Pseudo-skeptics are not just content in stopping people from
Often pseudosceptics have a high opinion of themselves, see themselves as elite. It is interesting that a disproportionately high number of pseudosceptics have an interest in magic.Most however, appear to suffer from Imagination Deficiency Personality IDPFictional miss-identification: Often an IDP
That description gave me quite a start there for a second. I was afraid that
you were talking about me. (:-)
Roger
From: cr...@overunity.co
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Why are pseudoskeptics so relentless in their mission to
debunk?
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 19:59:40 -0700
Often
But, seriously, that was an excellent description. Can you supply a link to it?
Roger
From: cr...@overunity.co
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Why are pseudoskeptics so relentless in their mission to
debunk?
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 19:59:40 -0700
Often pseudosceptics have a high
Are UFO and LENR in the same category?
Giovanni
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:24 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
A question that hasn't been asked is WHY many pseudoskeptics seem to
pursue rabid vendettas against issues like UFOs, or CF LENR, relentlessly
No, LENR and UFOs are not in the same category. LENR has lots of physical
evidence. The so-called physical evidence for UFOs is very weak if not
non-existent.
[LENRs will help people. UFOs are just a distraction from worry about paying
one's bills.]
The so-called physical evidence for
This link below is to my own site where I have assembled some of the major character traits of pseudos. I had plenty of real life experience of these clowns owing to the fact that they were at infestation levels on the Steorn forum before they all got banned for trolling. Mary Yugo,
Might I suggest using a smaller point size and any typeface other than
Comic Sans (it's a typeface that give us type nerds bad dreams).
[mg]
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Roger B rogerbi...@hotmail.com wrote:
But, seriously, that was an excellent description. Can you supply a link
to it?
Anyone sincerely think I'm a pseudoskeptic since December 1996 ?
I'm keenly alert to hear exactly what folks really think...
-- uh, I'm sure I'm not...
both terms are prejudiced: PseudoSkeptic, TrueBeliever... just justifies
closing down collaborative discussions by classifyinging the other
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Might I suggest using a smaller point size and any typeface other than
Comic Sans (it's a typeface that give us type nerds bad dreams).
I think Comic Sans is a perfect typeface for this list, since it scares
away anyone who has
uh, what is Comic Sans ?
clueless in Imperial Beach, CA, Rich
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Might I suggest using a smaller point size and any typeface other than
Comic Sans (it's
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
A question that hasn't been asked is WHY many pseudoskeptics seem to pursue
rabid vendettas against issues like UFOs, or CF LENR, relentlessly so.
Another method is to query your own Skeptic side. What I find in there is
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:24 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
A question that hasn't been asked is WHY many pseudoskeptics seem to
pursue rabid vendettas against issues like UFOs, or CF LENR, relentlessly
so. .
***It's because they're genuinely
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