Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-28 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
@Peter As an aside, please let me know how do you interpret Focardi's declaration that he does not know what Rossi's catayst is. I think the obvious interpretation is that Rossi invented it, and didn't tell Focardi. I think that's the official story anyway and I don't see anthing wrong with that?

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-28 Thread Rich Murray
Thanks for your appreciation -- here's more on the topic: self-organizing networks can develop simple test kits for metal isotope anomalies in 'water tree' corrosion of thin polyethylene films, re T Kumazawa 2005 -- 2008 Japan: Rich Murray 2011.06.03

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2011-11-28 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Did anyone try the Water Tree experiment? AG On 11/29/2011 3:25 PM, Rich Murray wrote: Thanks for your appreciation -- here's more on the topic: self-organizing networks can develop simple test kits for metal isotope anomalies in 'water tree' corrosion of thin polyethylene films, re T

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-28 Thread Rich Murray
This is the most recent water tree corrosion transmutation report I've located so far... the full report is in here: http://www.iscmns.org/iccf14/ProcICCF14b.pdf 12 MB Proceedings of the 14th International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science and the 14th International Conference on

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-27 Thread Peter Gluck
: - Original Nachricht Von: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 10:22 Betreff: Re: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion [snip] I will try to get information re the work with metalhydrides at the Plank Institute I liked very

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-27 Thread noone noone
@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:32 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion Dear Bastiaan, It is better, however facts are are facts and truth is truth, and priority is... you can guess it...priority! FYI- BRIEF HISTORY CHRONOLOGY OF Ni-H LENR - 16 August 1989. Francesco Piantelli

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-27 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
5 months after the 23 March 1989 P and F announcement which may have helped Piantelli to understand he was seeing a Cold Fusion, as it was called back then, effect. I suspect Rossi's burnt finger tip happened when it touched a piece of Nickel in his bio fuel converter system that should not be

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-27 Thread Rich Murray
Yes, the Widom-Larsen network is sharing many reasonable, evidence driven lines of new research, including water tree corrosion in high density polyethylene insulation in high voltage AC power cables: reactive gas micro and nano bubbles complicate Widom-Larsen theory re electrolytic cells --

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2011-11-27 Thread Jones Beene
From: Peter Gluck * Dear Bastiaan, * It is better, however facts are facts and truth is truth, and priority is... you can guess it...priority! * FYI- BRIEF HISTORY CHRONOLOGY OF Ni-H LENR Peter, I am surprised that you overlooked Randell Mill's earlier priority dates and

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-27 Thread Peter Gluck
Please do not be surprised, Randy considers that his process has nothing to do with Rossi's or Paintelli's. And the BLP technology (I still hope to see it working more or less publicly this year) is hyperchemistry while Ni-H LENR is nuclear. other leagues no competition. In case you are interested

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-27 Thread mixent
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:21:47 +0200: Hi Peter, Please do not be surprised, Randy considers that his process has nothing to do with Rossi's or Paintelli's. And the BLP technology (I still hope to see it working more or less publicly this year) is hyperchemistry

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2011-11-27 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Robin. I told mainly what Randy thinks- he has nothing to do with what Rossi (or Piantelli) has As regarding Transition Metals-H LENR (not only Ni works) I think that Piantellis' theory is the most realistic, logically consistent, and confirmed by experiment from the many theories I have

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2011-11-27 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-11-27 21:52, Peter Gluck wrote: [...] As regarding Transition Metals-H LENR (not only Ni works)... It's interesting to know that not only Ni (in addition to Pd) works. I assume that Fe-H LENRs could be possible, at least in theory; I wonder at what efficiency, compared to Nickel.

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2011-11-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: I told mainly what Randy thinks- he has nothing to do with what Rossi (or Piantelli) has As McKubre says, the violates conservation of miracles. This is just a feeling but it seems unlikely there are many different previously undiscovered ways to get

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-27 Thread mixent
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:52:13 +0200: Hi Peter, [snip] Dear Robin. I told mainly what Randy thinks- he has nothing to do with what Rossi (or Piantelli) has I'm well aware that Randy doesn't want to have anything to do with CF. As regarding Transition Metals-H

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-27 Thread mixent
In reply to Akira Shirakawa's message of Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:58:43 +0100: Hi, [snip] On 2011-11-27 21:52, Peter Gluck wrote: [...] As regarding Transition Metals-H LENR (not only Ni works)... It's interesting to know that not only Ni (in addition to Pd) works. I assume that Fe-H LENRs could be

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-27 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
Thanks for the interesting read: http://rmforall.blogspot.com/2011/06/reactive-gas-micro-and-nano-bubbles.html Amazing the amount of transmutation products found in Water Trees. Will talk to a few friends in the local power utility to see what they know of from first hand experience. AG On

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-27 Thread Alan Fletcher
Rossi claims to have experimented with many materials. ISTR he said he tried one formula which gave a higher output than his current catalyst ... but it was too difficult to control.

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-26 Thread Marcello Vitale
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 10:22 Betreff: Re: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion [snip] I will try to get information re the work with metalhydrides at the Plank Institute I liked very much the idea from the Chan's Formula to use metalhydrides as sources of hydrogen

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-26 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
...@gmail.com An:      vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum:   25.11.2011 10:22 Betreff: Re: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion [snip] I will try to get information re the work with metalhydrides at the Plank Institute I liked very much the idea from the Chan's Formula to use metalhydrides as sources of hydrogen

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-26 Thread Rich Murray
citation] On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:14 PM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: - Original Nachricht Von:     Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com An:      vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum:   25.11.2011 10:22 Betreff: Re: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion [snip] I will try to get information re the work

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread Peter Gluck
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Bastiaan Bergman bastiaan.berg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi group, As a physicist I feel obliged to spread the word on cold fusion and explain what it is to the general public. In that attempt I wrote the linked paper, please have a look and give me your blunt

Aw: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 09:07 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion Rossi tries to convince the world that his system is quite different from Piantelli's but Piantelli was the first to discover

Re: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread Peter Gluck
at 10:50 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: - Original Nachricht Von: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 09:07 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion Rossi tries to convince the world that his system is quite different from

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 10:22 Betreff: Re: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion [snip] I will try to get information re the work with metalhydrides at the Plank Institute I liked very much the idea from

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 10:22 Betreff: Re: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion [snip] I will try to get information re the work with metalhydrides at the Plank Institute I liked very much the idea from

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread Marcello Vitale
@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 10:22 Betreff: Re: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion [snip] I will try to get information re the work with metalhydrides at the Plank Institute I liked very much the idea from the Chan's Formula to use metalhydrides as sources of hydrogen in a Ni-H system PeterG

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread Rich Murray
Hello Bastiaan Bergman, As a pragmatic skeptic re cold fusion since December, 1996, I hope you pay some attention to the contributions on Vortex-L by Cude, Heffner, and Yugo -- it is reasonably argued that no public data yet succeed in confirming excess heat in the many Rossi demos... within

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread Alain dit le Cycliste
the critics could look ok when anomaly was around 20W and below % with old instruments. maybe even critics could not sustain honest check (accusing a chemist of failing heat computation, is like accusing an accountant to break a balance). with reports, if they are honest, like the one about the

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-25 Thread Peter Heckert
...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 25.11.2011 10:22 Betreff: Re: Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion http://bit.ly/cold-fusion [snip] I will try to get information re the work with metalhydrides at the Plank Institute I liked very much the idea

[Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-24 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
Hi group, As a physicist I feel obliged to spread the word on cold fusion and explain what it is to the general public. In that attempt I wrote the linked paper, please have a look and give me your blunt feedback. Also please use the paper however you see fit. http://bit.ly/cold-fusion Thanks,

Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion

2011-11-24 Thread Aussie Guy E-Cat
One word to describe your paper. EXCELLENT. AG On 11/25/2011 10:32 AM, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: Hi group, As a physicist I feel obliged to spread the word on cold fusion and explain what it is to the general public. In that attempt I wrote the linked paper, please have a look and give me