For what we know ,
Rossi's device is anisotropic , excited by incoherent heat, while Defkalion
reactor is oriented by the plasma flux... Some says the plasma/current is
flowing through the material.
This may justify stable oriented field on one side (defkalion) ,and
unstable (messy transient spin
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Dfkalion also reports high RF interference with the phone systems and
their SCADA function.
Yes, which indicates that their claim for a 1.6 T magnetic field resulted
from a misreading of the Gauss meter, perhaps because the meter was
influenced by
However I think it is more important that DGT has cut
some Gordian Knots
Peter
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Dfkalion also reports high RF interference with the phone systems and
their SCADA function.
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From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Dfkalion also reports high RF interference with the phone systems
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From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Aug 14, 2013 11:03 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Abd's take on Defkalion's recent claims.
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Dfkalion also reports high RF interference with the phone systems
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
However I think it is more important that DGT has cut
some Gordian Knots
They are Greek, after all.
I think overall they tied as many new knots as they cut. It was a good
first step but people have many questions about it, including people who
are
To remain at the Greeks, this magnetic field story is interpreted as
an Achilles' Heel of the story - it is NOT! and 20 times more words
were used for this than for the fact that the Hyperion generates
controllable
copious heat.
Peter
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
To remain at the Greeks, this magnetic field story is interpreted as
an Achilles' Heel of the story - it is NOT! and 20 times more words
were used for this than for the fact that the Hyperion generates
controllable
copious heat.
All functioning cold
just a very general remark..
LENR is a strange domain which challenge our knowledge in cognition,
psychology...
I discovered much about sociology of science, media, science journals, free
energy fans, ufoists, hot fusion physicist, entrepreneurs, green
entrepreneurs...
and what happen now, is
I suppose Defkalion learned many of their techniques from him. (A court
will probably have to decide how many, someday.)
There are any unsupported assumptions in your post. Therefore it is a poor
one.
Defkalion learned many of their techniques from open source documents as
they has
I do not think they have proved it is fully controllable. I did not see
them modulate the reaction or turn it on and off repeatedly.
You should go back an review the ICCF-18 Delkalion demo again. Control of
the reactor was a major demo objective that was successfully accomplished.
On Wed, Aug
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think they have proved it is fully controllable. I did not see
them modulate the reaction or turn it on and off repeatedly.
You should go back an review the ICCF-18 Delkalion demo again. Control of
the reactor was a major demo objective that was
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:01:13 PM
I do not think they have proved it is fully controllable. I did not
see them modulate the reaction or turn it on and off repeatedly.
You should go back an review the ICCF-18 Delkalion demo again.
Control
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Hadjichristos (sp) specifically said in the demo that they were keeping
the modulation of the HV pulse fixed, to avoid complicating the test -- and
they usually used this for fine control. (Duty cycle?)
Ah. I missed that, or I forgot it. In that case maybe
The heat can be used produce to steam which can turn an armature in the
presence of the magnetic. From the point of view of the rotating armature
the magnetic flux will vary so a electric current can be generated
Harry
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:50 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
This is the link for the original post. Comments are welcome!
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/message/584
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Hi folks!
One more comment from Abd. You are welcome to go there and comment!:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/newvortex/message/593
There has been extensive commentary on Vortex-l about the magnetic
anomaly, in a thread started by Peter Gluck.
*Axil, the question is, Exactly what behavior did the experiment
show?. DGE claims to have measured a magnetic FIELD of 1.6 T. Such
an intense magnetic field cannot form under the circumstances.
Therefore, they misinterpreted the behavior. The problem is to
discover just what they actually
Daniel,
Is it worth considering the possibility that superoscillations or rogue
waves are occurring?
It's possible to generate extremely large transient signal peaks and
steep slopes, using band-limited signals - even when all of the components
are low-frequency, low-amplitude sinusoids.
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
If an experimental result does not fit into their conceptual framework,
the tendency is to ignore the troublesome concept as a result of some
screw-up or another, rather than readjust the concept to fit the
experimental data.
I assume this is about the
Super oscillations are produced when fano resonance converts infrared EMF
into a soliton EMF singularity within the hot spot that develops between
the nanowires of the Nickel micro particles.
see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whispering-gallery_wave
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 4:12 PM,
*I think this is more a case where the result does not fit in with
conventional, textbook physics and engineering. *
In nanoplasmonics, Hot Spots have be experimentally verified to produce
solitons with a EMF power density of 100 terawatts per cm2 before the
sensors blew out.
Not finding this
There is no harm in ignoring results temporarily. There is a huge
difference between ignoring a result and attacking it. Benign neglect is
okay.
Ignoring the results until you assimilate enough applicable knowledge to
understand it. But how long does it take for the observer to understand
what
In Kim's ICCF 18 paper. there are two references to nanoplasmonic papers
[16,17]. Also, DGT has be famisly quoted as stating that LENR should stand
for nanoplasmonics:
see http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/ManningIE110.pdf
However, readers who are aware of nanoplasmonics—a
new area of
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
A recent breakthrough
resulted in a change; instead of the “N” standing for nuclear,
it now stands for nanoplasmonics.
It stands for 'nuclei'.
http://defkalion-energy.com/technology/
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
*I think this is more a case where the result does not fit in with
conventional, textbook physics and engineering. *
In nanoplasmonics, Hot Spots have be experimentally verified to produce
solitons with a EMF power density of 100 terawatts per cm2 before
The strength of the magnetic field is a “smoking gun” for soliton
production. What remains to be determined is what exact nature of the EMF
produced by the soliton. And is this EMF responsible for the disintegration
of the nucleus.
Kim thinks it is the electrostatic field. I think it is the
On Aug 13, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
The strength of the magnetic field is a “smoking gun” for soliton
production.
It is a smoking gun if the claim is real. But what if the claim is not
real? What if we discover it is actually based on an error. What will
you say then? How much
Rossi mentioned extreme EMF behavior coming out of his reactor. Two like
systems reporting the same type of EMF anomaly looks like the real thing to
me.
If you are really interest in zeroing in on the causation of LENR, the
also research Rossi's EMF claims.
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 6:29 PM,
But exactly what is the anomaly? DGT reports a magnetic field with 1.6
T. Rossi reports RF radiation. Neither source gives any actual data.
I would not be surprised to see RF radiation. I would be surprised to
see a 1.6 T magnetic field. The devil is in the details. Using a
collection of
Dfkalion also reports high RF interference with the phone systems and their
SCADA function.
The real data reported in the ICCF-18 paper is not hard to interpret.. 1.6
tesla at 20 Cms. What could be clearer than that, unless you just don't
want to believe it, that is.
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at
Axil,
To boil it down, if you say it is a singularity emitting emf radiation
over a broad spectrum I agree with that synopsis
On Tuesday, August 13, 2013, Axil Axil wrote:
Dfkalion also reports high RF interference with the phone systems and
their SCADA function.
The real data reported in
On Aug 13, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
Dfkalion also reports high RF interference with the phone systems
and their SCADA function.
Yes, which indicates that their claim for a 1.6 T magnetic field
resulted from a misreading of the Gauss meter, perhaps because the
meter was
http://ecatreport.com/andrearossi/on-rossis-fascinating-emf-discovery
Andrea Rossi recently stated on his blog Journal of Nuclear Physics that he
is currently taking the road to circumventing the Carnot Cycle. The Italian
inventor posted that direct EMF from the reactor core. EMF or
As Jed has suggested up-thread, you should suspend all current theory
making until you understand better what EMF brings to the LENR table. I
also suggest that you study Nanoplasmonics as a modern day extension of the
pioneering work of Pons and Fleischman. This field is currently the
Unless we understand the meaning of the words being used, nothing will
make sense. To make electric power, a voltage has to be created
between two locations so that a current can be made to flow. The
amount of power created is equal to the current times the voltage.
Many ways exist to
If you are talking to me, a singularity is where I was a year ago as I have
listened to your range of theories.
You also appear to be embracing string theory now and dismissed it a year
ago. I suggest you stop what you are doing and go back and read up on M
theory while we are throwing out
People keep saying EMF in the context of talking about a magnetic field.
Aside from the difference being generally crucial, the energy in a
magnetic field is unavailable if it is unchanging.
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:36 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
If you are talking to me, a
For any polariton based soliton, it exists for some 10s of picoseconds
only. It seems to me that this is a rapidly changing magnetic field.
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:50 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
People keep saying EMF in the context of talking about a magnetic field.
Aside
Somewhere in a previous post I saw DGT's spark pulse numbers of 24 kV at 22
mA peak with a rep rate in the kHz range. This is over 500W of pulse power.
The wires leading to the spark plugs are of significant size and will make
good radiators. Normal CDI type of spark pulsers have nanosecond rise
Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote:
A high frequency spectrum analyzer is needed to evaluate the level and
frequency extent of the possible RF interference. I cannot imagine trying
to make 24b ADC measurements for accurate thermocouple readings in the
presence of these pulses.
And
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