I don't think I have ever seen this description of the plasma collision of
d-d. I was reading about the nature of the strong force and trying to
understand the plasma fusion branches when I developed this mental picture.
I don't really understand what you mean by strong Coulomb field in the
On Jul 27, 2014, at 9:51, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't really understand what you mean by strong Coulomb field in the
background.
I'm thinking of a gradient of Coulomb charge off to the side of the oncoming
d's which is sufficient to polarize them as they approach
http://www.ladir.cnrs.fr/pages/fillaux/157_PAC_2007_1023.pdf
*Proton transfer across hydrogen bonds: From reaction path to Schrödinger’s
cat*
Why does the LENR electrolysis process benefit from and usually require a
potassium bicarbonate catalyst to amplify the LENR reaction?
Potassium
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
When you speak of the plasma fusion output channels, I like to think of it
in a Bohr-sian way. Presuming plasma, you have isolated deuterium nuclei,
with each nucleus spinning around random vectors. When a pair
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote:
Wasn't Graneau basically using acoustic principles to time his pulses and
engineer their intensity to break atomic bonds -- thereby producing his
exploding water?
Maybe. I don't have an opinion on whether the water arc
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:16 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Why focus on the Coulomb field? Focus on the intense magnetic fields that
can polarize nuclei parallel and antiparallel and cause them to spin in
harmony. Transfer of mass via spin energy is possible, although it is
What happens in the endothermic energy case where energy is delivered to
enable the reaction. As in Mizuno, when deuterium becomes podium. Is the
energy delivered as a gamma ray or is it sent over in discrete low energy
quanta?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:16 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
In the exothermic as well as the endothermic case , when energy is
delivered to the reaction. A lot more energy than might be required may be
delivered to the reaction, how is that excess energy packaged on the way
back to the site of causation.
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Axil Axil
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
What happens in the endothermic energy case where energy is delivered to
enable the reaction.
I'm not sure. Perhaps the force of the incident beam is strong enough to
give rise to endothermic reactions that would otherwise
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
What happens in the endothermic energy case where energy is delivered to
enable the reaction. As in Mizuno, when deuterium becomes podium.
***Well, perhaps you made a joke without realizing it... how does deuterium
become a
To Eric's discussion of downconversion ...
When you speak of the plasma fusion output channels, I like to think of it
in a Bohr-sian way. Presuming plasma, you have isolated deuterium nuclei,
with each nucleus spinning around random vectors. When a pair approaches
with a trajectory alignment
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
One of the things about Hagelstein's proposition that bothers me is that
the excited nucleus does not want to stay excited for very long - it decays
in an incredibly short time. Suppose you are de-exciting a dd* that
Axil--
I am not sure about Mizuno. I do not remember reading anything about gammas
being observed as least as input to the experiment. I assumed he also realized
only small energy changes. Its the lack of gammas that indicate other small
energy quanta transfers are occurring.
Bob
The point I wanted to make regarding Mizuno was that energy transfer is a
full duplex process. In other words, energy can flow in either direction:
from the soliton to the reaction or from the reaction to the soliton. There
is no gamma's involved in either direction when the soliton is a member of
When energy is pumped into the vacuum, then that energy begins to change
the very nature of the vacuum. At low levels of pumped energy, the number
of virtual photons produce per unit time will proportionally increase. This
will increase the rate of radioactive decay of isotopes.
When a bit more
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
wrote:
The strong force is like fly paper - it is so short range (fraction of a
nucleon diameter), you have to essentially touch before sticking. So you
end up with 3 possibilities of this close approach: ...
I used to
I can't comment too much on the technical side, but personally I think the
work is quite interesting if not a little obscure. I think it's appreciated
by certain people in the field for its novel creation of x-ray like
emissions, and I think it does likely provide an important piece to the
puzzle.
I believe Peter Hagelstein is excited about the Karabut result because he
believes that Karabut demonstrates high energy x-ray photons being
synthesized by a collective sum of much lower energy lattice phonons. If
it is possible for this up-conversion to occur, then it lends credibility
to his
There is plenty of evidence down-conversion of gammas, but the problem is
that it is never complete nor predictable conversion and it always happens
in a few medium sized steps instead of large packets of energy going to tiny
packet in one step. Proof to follow.
And seldom does gamma conversion
From: Bob Higgins
I believe Peter Hagelstein is excited about the Karabut
result because he believes that Karabut demonstrates high energy x-ray
photons being synthesized by a collective sum of much lower energy lattice
phonons. If it is possible for this up-conversion to occur,
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Hagelstein has never been able to find a physical model for his contention,
not even one which is remotely close - and it is amazing that he has not
thrown in the towel on a losing battle. It simply does not happen in the
What parameter is limiting the downshift exactly? Ahern has speculated
that ferromagnetic collective modes, first explored by Ulam, are at play in
LENR. These systems tend to amplify the vibratory modes of a system and
then tend to localize energy in a coherent fashion -- seemingly in
violation of
I wrote:
Even a year ago I was persuaded that there must be some kind of high-energy
gamma downconversion at play ...
Just to clarify -- I do think the full energy of a nuclear transition, when
there is one, is being dissipated to the environment, but not through some
kind of harmonic
The problem is that after the high energy gamma is created, it is not
plausible that 100% of the quanta are downshifted - some will fail in this
post-fusion downshifting and be released as high energy. Since 0% high
energy quanta are seen experimentally, the high energy quanta must not get
Say, we are getting some kind a consensus going today… must be a good sign :-)
I think that for deuterium to helium, the idea of pre-release of energy in a
Mills-like redundancy has logical backing. Helium is documented, and deuterons
are bosons. Tunneling should happen. It would be nice to
BTW guys – for those who see the value in having cosmology as an ally, it makes
sense for us to keep promoting this “dark matter” cross-connection to LENR, and
the Rossi effect, and moreover to try to get anyone who is seeing thermal gain
to look for the 3.5 keV signature.
If that is found
The problem is that after the high energy gamma is created, it is not
plausible that 100% of the quanta are downshifted - some will fail in this
post-fusion downshifting and be released as high energy.
Where dis this assumption come from?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Bob Higgins
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Say, we are getting some kind a consensus going today… must be a good sign J
It won't last.
Marvin (the paranoid android from HHGttU).
I did not think I originated it, but I am convinced of it. This came up in
particular for the proposed shielding effect by WL. It is a similar issue.
Once the atom is excited with high energy to be released very quickly, it
is difficult for pretty much any de-excitation mechanism to be 100%
Downshifting of gammas- all the way to phonons, without going through the x-ray
level (which is detectable) is especially absurd, when one realizes that there
is not a single experiment in all of physics that demonstrates any significant
level of downshifting at all.
It is complete science
Look at this gamma downshifting situation in terms of waves. What happens
when two waves meet while they travel through the same medium? What effect
will the meeting of the waves have upon the appearance of the medium? Will
the two waves bounce off each other upon meeting (much like two billiard
More...
*An example, if we had a explosive that only reacted when water pressure
was 10 psi, then water would always be required to trigger the reaction.
The explosive would always need to be covered by feet of water and the
energy of the reaction would always be added to the water that covered
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Foks0904 . foks0...@gmail.com wrote:
What parameter is limiting the downshift exactly? Ahern has speculated
that ferromagnetic collective modes, first explored by Ulam, are at play in
LENR. These systems tend to amplify the vibratory modes of a system and
then
In this experiment, BECs absorb X-rays.
*Rydberg excitation of a Bose-Einstein condensate*
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3024348/posts
*arxiv.org ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/%5Ehttp://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.1261v1.pdf * |
March 2012 | M. Viteau1, M. Bason1, J. Radogostowicz2;3, N.
I posted this on another thread recently.
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=vortex-l@eskimo.comq=date:20140724
In this experiment the possible source of the energy is the electric arc.
***Yup. It's possible that it's the arc that causes the jump to LENR. In
Ed Storms's perspective, it is
Eric--
Why focus on the Coulomb field? Focus on the intense magnetic fields that can
polarize nuclei parallel and antiparallel and cause them to spin in harmony.
Transfer of mass via spin energy is possible, although it is not common in a
plasma or free particle system most are familiar
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com
wrote:
I posted this on another thread recently.
Yes -- I saw that. What you write is interesting. I am still acquainting
myself with the relevance of Luttinger liquids, and I'm no fan of BECs in
the context of LENR,
Wasn't Graneau basically using acoustic principles to time his pulses and
engineer their intensity to break atomic bonds -- thereby producing his
exploding water?
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Kevin O'Malley
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