Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-02-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: The snow had a hypnotic undulating motion which was freakin' drivers. They insisted on driving slow although there was no hazard. I made it outside the perimeter highway as traffic began to collapse. It was like I was

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-31 Thread Sunil Shah
Eric Walker said: Here is another video of Russian drivers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2oQ6VbVIco These images are something else. I can't tell whether the drivers in Russia are absolutely terrible, or whether this is the situation anywhere, and the drivers in Russia just happen

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-30 Thread Sunil Shah
masterpiece, checkout https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvLaTupw-hk Safe driving, folks. Be humble. /Sunil From: jedrothw...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 22:55:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Here is why Russians have dash-cams. I think

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: Safe driving, folks. Be humble. My driving philosophy is quite simple. I treat automobiles in traffic as a herd of animals with no intelligent control. This not only leads you to expect unpredictable behavior but, once

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a good summary of the underlying causes of the gridlock: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/01/atlanta-snow-storm-102839.html?ml=m_t1_2h#.UuqZrRBdXCE - Jed

RE: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-30 Thread Sunil Shah
Hilarious! And a very good idea : ) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 12:16:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again From: hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 5:11 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: Safe driving, folks. Be humble. My

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-30 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: My driving philosophy is quite simple. I treat automobiles in traffic as a herd of animals with no intelligent control. If cars are like water buffalo, they're like water buffalo with jetpacks, and, when there's ice,

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: These images are something else. I can't tell whether the drivers in Russia are absolutely terrible, or whether this is the situation anywhere, and the drivers in Russia just happen to have dashcams. They have dashcams because accidents are common and

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Daniel Rocha
Well, to keep the average, my city, Rio de Janeiro, seems to be hotter every year. 2014-01-29 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Atlanta has been hit by a blizzard again. Nearly an inch of snow. In places you cannot see the pavement it is so deep. This paralyzes the whole city because there

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Craig
On 01/29/2014 08:56 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Why on earth would anyone sit in a car for 10 hours when you are only 4 miles from home?!? She is halfway home on a 9-mile commute. Okay, park the car, get out, and walk. It wasn't that cold yesterday, and walking keeps you warm. Have people

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: I'd opt for staying in the car. It takes a long time to walk 4 miles, especially in the snow, and then you'd have to worry about your car being towed. When this happened to me, I left the car on a side street or the parking lot at Home Depot. It does

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread ChemE Stewart
Jed, I know you are a smart guy. I left my office in Atlanta @ 3:00 PM yesterday and arrived homed in Roswell @ 12:45 AM and I walked the last 1/4 mile in my subdivision. I picked up my neighbors wife, who is an atty @ 11:00 PM at Mansell Road and another neighbor. She was WEARING HIGH HEELS

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I picked up my neighbors wife, who is an atty @ 11:00 PM at Mansell Road and another neighbor. She was WEARING HIGH HEELS and had no chance of walking 4 miles. It was 24 degrees at the time. I don't like to criticize people who are not used to

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread ChemE Stewart
OK, How about 75 year olds trying to walk 4 miles in 25 degree weather. Or people with newborns/multiple kids in the car? Many people left at noon yesterday AND ARE STILL IN THEIR CARS Get real On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: ChemE Stewart

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: OK, How about 75 year olds trying to walk 4 miles in 25 degree weather. Or people with newborns/multiple kids in the car? Such people are a different story. I was talking about people in good health age 20 to 65. They should be capable of walking 5

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread ChemE Stewart
We need some of your robots On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: OK, How about 75 year olds trying to walk 4 miles in 25 degree weather. Or people with newborns/multiple kids in the car? Such people are a

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Terry Blanton
I hoofed it in the Snowjam of 1982 over 5 miles from the Veteran's hospital to Memorial Dr. Cars had blocked all lanes at the hospital trying to get up the hill. I decided I would not do this again. I made it; but, I ruined a nice suit and shoes. Yesterday, I watched Ch.2's weather radar. It

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: We need some of your robots I wonder how Google's self driving car would handle this. What we need is less commuting and more telecommuting and satellite offices. If most people lived within walking distance of their office, many able bodied people would

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Terry Blanton
That's nifty. Why do you have a dashcam? In case you have an accident? That's why people have them in Russia. They are very common. Which is why they got so many videos of the Chelyabinsk meteor. I remember a scifi novel of an anarchist future society where everyone carried a light sabre (pre

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: I remember a scifi novel of an anarchist future society where everyone carried a light sabre (pre Star Wars). Everyone was extremely polite and crime was virtually non-existent. That did not work out well in pre-modern Japan where the samurai carried

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: That did not work out well in pre-modern Japan where the samurai carried swords. There were severe penalties for using them. Granted it was safer than most other medieval societies, especially for women travelling

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it *was* fiction; but, when I said everyone carried weapons, it included women. IIRC, they were some of the fiercest fighters. Women used to carry daggers for protection. Not always, the way samurai were always supposed to carry swords. See:

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
This turned out to be one of the worst traffic jams in U.S. history. It is not clear to me why it was so bad. Explanations in the mass media do not add up -- Everyone went home at once. Yes, but they do that every day. The schools let out at the same time offices closed. That does not add much

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread ChemE Stewart
I think a million or so people, including all of the commuters and busses, hit 285, 75/85, GA 400, I-20 at the same time between 12-2. Normally that croud is spread between 2:30-7. I watched the outside temperature drop 10 degrees within a couple of hours from my truck. @ 26 F GA 400 became a

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, to keep the average, my city, Rio de Janeiro, seems to be hotter every year. I'm glad that all of the heat went from Atlanta to Rio de Janeiro. Out in the Bay area it's almost t-shirt weather. It's quite nice.

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Large trucks jackknifed and blocked traffic. This is the one thing that does seem to have happened on a large scale. Growing up in Colorado, I've come to respect any ice that might be on the road. A note to all the

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: I watched the outside temperature drop 10 degrees within a couple of hours from my truck. @ 26 F GA 400 became a sheet of ice. Approximately what time was that? - Jed

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Terry Blanton
It's both, Jed and Stewie. People panicked but they were driviing slow when the density was low as is evidenced in my vid. I should put the whole drive up. I made the trip quickly because I drove 60 mph while traffic was travelling at 40 mph. I wove in and out in the gaps. I'm sure that I

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread ChemE Stewart
6-8 pm, 33 degrees at 3 PM when I left, 24 degrees at 8 PM, most of the drop happened when the Sun set. I think the first few hours of delay were due to volume, then once all those people became jammed on the highways, it all turned to a sheet of ice. On Wednesday, January 29, 2014, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: 6-8 pm, 33 degrees at 3 PM when I left, 24 degrees at 8 PM, most of the drop happened when the Sun set. That is what I recall. I said it did not freeze until 5 or 6 p.m., which was sundown. There was snow but not a lot of ice. I don't know about the main

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread ChemE Stewart
The cars melted the snow from 12-5 and then it all froze to ice over the next couple of hours On Wednesday, January 29, 2014, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'cheme...@gmail.com'); wrote: 6-8 pm, 33 degrees at 3 PM when I

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Remarkable photos here: http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2014/01/snow-storms-hit-the-south/100671/

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is why Russians have dash-cams. I think these are mainly Russian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqktzCeFcbI So much for the notion that people in Russia know how to drive in the snow. Two final notes. A friend of mine who is a pharmacist at the hospital says that essential staff was

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread ChemE Stewart
I averaged 2 miles per hour for 9 hours. I walked the last 1/4 mile faster. Hard to get in a severe traffic accident at that speed On Wednesday, January 29, 2014, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Here is why Russians have dash-cams. I think these are mainly Russian: Winter Car

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-01-29 Thread Terry Blanton
Not a dashcam vid; but, one of my fav Russian crash cams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY4jmVfBAyQ