Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-25 Thread Axil Axil
What happens if the pictures come out wrong? Mills will have to go back to lancing boils and setting bones. >From the high priest of the universe to a common sawbones, what a bummer. On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 6:48 PM, wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 25 May 2013 01:53:06 -0400:

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sat, 25 May 2013 01:53:06 -0400: Hi, >http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2013/may/23/quantum-microscope-peers-into-the-hydrogen-atom > >Take a picture of a Hydrino for me Why not ask Mills? He has lots of them. [snip] Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread mixent
In reply to David Roberson's message of Fri, 24 May 2013 23:46:36 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] > >Catch me a large number of hydrinos in a jar to measure. Would this be >possible in principle? If not, why? > >Dave Mills used to have photos of the jars on his website. :) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2013/may/23/quantum-microscope-peers-into-the-hydrogen-atom Take a picture of a Hydrino for me On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:16 PM, wrote: > In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 24 May 2013 14:12:07 -0400: > Hi, > [snip] > >LENR must function in liquid

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread David Roberson
Catch me a large number of hydrinos in a jar to measure. Would this be possible in principle? If not, why? Dave -Original Message- From: mixent To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 11:16 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test In reply to Axil Axil&#

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 24 May 2013 14:38:09 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The temperature difference between the melting point of stainless steel and >ceramic is 600 degrees C. To produce this temperature difference beyond the >melting point of nickel powder and stainless steel requires a co

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Fri, 24 May 2013 14:12:07 -0400: Hi, [snip] >LENR must function in liquid and vapor. > >Riddle me that one batman. > Hydrinos don't care. :) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test -how to melt ceramic

2013-05-24 Thread Robert Lynn
a bulk effect. > > Dave > -Original Message- > From: Axil Axil > To: vortex-l > Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 2:12 pm > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test > > The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo has > reveal

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test -how to melt ceramic

2013-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
, the end was open to > the external air. Where do you gather that there is H outside the > stainless reactor core? > > -mark > > ** ** > > *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2013 3:27 PM > *To:* vortex-l > *Subject:* Re:

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test -how to melt ceramic

2013-05-24 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
May 24, 2013 2:12 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo has revealed is how extreme the LENR can get. This tells us important new things about the LENR reaction. When the E-Cat melts down, its temperature re

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test -how to melt ceramic

2013-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
ay of knowing how much melted. At the vary >>> least, once the stainless steel container in which the Ni was located >>> formed a hole, the H2 would escape and the nuclear reaction would stop. In >>> addition, we do not know the melting point of the Ni in the container >

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test -how to melt ceramic

2013-05-24 Thread David L Babcock
Well. Okay. I DID say "I have no idea.." Maybe AR piped in some liquid oxygen through one of those extra wires? Ol' Bab On 5/24/2013 5:30 PM, Edmund Storms wrote: David, have you ever actually heated stainless steel. I suggest you take a spoon from your collection in the kitchen and heat it

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test -how to melt ceramic

2013-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
;> On May 24, 2013, at 12:17 PM, David Roberson wrote: >> >> Axil, >> >> You pose some interesting questions. If what you suggest is true, then >> this form of LENR would be a bulk effect. >> >> Dave >> -Original Message- >> From:

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test -how to melt ceramic

2013-05-24 Thread Edmund Storms
e a bulk effect. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 2:12 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo has revealed is how extreme the LENR can get. This tells us

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test -how to melt ceramic

2013-05-24 Thread Edmund Storms
: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo has revealed is how extreme the LENR can get. This tells us important new things about the LENR reaction. When the E-Cat melts down, its temperature reaches at least 2000C. The m

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test -how to melt ceramic

2013-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
> Dave > -----Original Message- > From: Axil Axil > To: vortex-l > Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 2:12 pm > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test > > The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo has > revealed is how extreme the LE

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test -how to melt ceramic

2013-05-24 Thread David L Babcock
e a bulk effect. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> To: vortex-l mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>> Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 2:12 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Ross

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
ting point of the Ni in the container >> because it was reacted with a secret catalyst. In other words, we know >> nothing that would support such speculations. >> >> Ed Storms >> >> On May 24, 2013, at 12:17 PM, David Roberson wrote: >> >> -Or

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Duncan Cumming
Would you believe that it is possible to melt tungsten (MP 3422 deg C) using only 10 watts? Try putting 10 watts into a 1 watt flashlight bulb. It will burn out immediately as the tungsten filament melts. No LENR reaction, just straight resistive heating. Power and temperature are not directly

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Edmund Storms
s, we know nothing that would support such speculations. Ed Storms On May 24, 2013, at 12:17 PM, David Roberson wrote: -Original Message- From: Axil Axil Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 2:12 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test The other very important piece o

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Edmund Storms
ay 24, 2013 2:38 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test Please people, stay in the real world. The description Alex gives has no relationship to what has been described in the paper or to what is possible. We have no way of knowing the melting point of that material

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Bob Higgins
: Fri, May 24, 2013 2:12 pm > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test > > The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo has > revealed is how extreme the LENR can get. This tells us important new > things about the LENR reaction. > When t

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread David Roberson
temperature? Dave -Original Message- From: Edmund Storms To: vortex-l Cc: Edmund Storms Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 2:38 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test Please people, stay in the real world. The description Alex gives has no relationship to what has been

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
questions. If what you suggest is true, then > this form of LENR would be a bulk effect. > > Dave > -Original Message- > From: Axil Axil > To: vortex-l > Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 2:12 pm > Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test > >

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Edmund Storms
, May 24, 2013 2:12 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo has revealed is how extreme the LENR can get. This tells us important new things about the LENR reaction. When the E-Cat melts down, its temperature

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
lf > going molten and then just sitting there radiating away it’s heat from a > molten surface into the ceramic. > > Fran > > ** ** > > *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2013 2:12 PM > *To:* vortex-l > *Subjec

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
from a molten surface into the ceramic. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 2:12 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo has revealed is how extreme the

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread David Roberson
Axil, You pose some interesting questions. If what you suggest is true, then this form of LENR would be a bulk effect. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Fri, May 24, 2013 2:12 pm Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test The other very

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Axil Axil
The other very important piece of the puzzle that this Rossi demo has revealed is how extreme the LENR can get. This tells us important new things about the LENR reaction. When the E-Cat melts down, its temperature reaches at least 2000C. The melting point of the ceramic used is in that temperatur

Re: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Edmund Storms
Thanks Fran. It's nice to get an occasional agreement :-) However, how do you propose to make helium and tritium from D and H by a process other than fusion? Of course, the process is not like hot fusion, but this does not remove another process that results in fusion as the mechanism. The

RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:My evaluation of the Rossi test

2013-05-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Ed, Good analysis and totally agree with your conclusions except for your description as a "fusion" process since that remains controversial would just call it an as yet "undetermined" process. [snip] , which allows the diffusion rate to drop enough to starve the fusion process of reacta