Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

2016-08-23 Thread David Roberson
Jed, According to the reference I have found water vapor and liquid water remain in combination at a pressure of 15.7902 psi absolute when subject to 102 C. Since you and others appear to believe that most of the mass of water going to the customer equipment is liquid then that would likely

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Light and matter merge in quantum coupling

2016-08-23 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Yes, thanks Mark, that is what I was trying to say. Like Casimir cavities they change the vacuum density such that space time between the boundaries is modified and IMHO the lower ground states they speak of are actually relativistic in nature but in a negative way , the world outside the

[Vo]:about LENR THEORIES and some info

2016-08-23 Thread Peter Gluck
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[Vo]:Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Light and matter merge in quantum coupling

2016-08-23 Thread Terry Blanton
Hmmm. I wonder if filling the EMdrive with hydrogen would affect the thrust? Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Light and matter merge in quantum coupling

2016-08-23 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, I agree [snip] By looking for a hydrogen BEC in cavities, a researcher could find the ideal dimensions of the Nano cavity that produces the condensed hydrogen and engineer a material that produces this ultra-dense hydrogen crystal in abundance.[/snip] I also think we should emulate their

RE: [Vo]:Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Light and matter merge in quantum coupling

2016-08-23 Thread Roarty, Francis X
It might have some unexpected results – if the EM drive is based on the same segregation of vacuum density AND I don’t know that it is or not, there is also the question of where the segregation occurs for hydrogen to be affected and whether it would mostly cancel out wrt thrust as there is

Re: [Vo]:Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Light and matter merge in quantum coupling

2016-08-23 Thread Terry Blanton
I posted it in the Wiki. Maybe someone will try it. Suggestion #16: http://emdrive.wiki/List_of_Suggested_Experiments On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Roarty, Francis X < francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote: > It might have some unexpected results – if the EM drive is based on the > same

Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

2016-08-23 Thread David Roberson
Bob, I would agree with your assessment that the steam is dry if we can be ensured that there is a moisture separator in the proper location. Have you seen any evidence that this is true? If the steam is totally dry then Rossi's system is probably working much as he states. My approach is

Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

2016-08-23 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 08/24/2016 12:03 AM, David Roberson wrote: As I have stated, if the steam is truly dry then plenty of power is being supplied to the customer. If the ERV is mistaken that the steam is dry then I.H. is likely correct. If everyone accepts that the true pressure of the steam is atmospheric

Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

2016-08-23 Thread Bob Cook
Dave-- The steam table indicates a condition of equilibrium between the liquid phase and the gaseous phase of water. If the conditions are 1 bar at a temperature above the 99.9743 there is no liquid phase in equilibrium with the steam (gas) phase. The gas is phase is at 102 degrees and is

Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

2016-08-23 Thread a.ashfield
Apparently the ERV measured 102.8 C @ atmospheric pressure. That is dry steam. That implies the customer used steam at a negative pressure. On 8/23/2016 8:50 PM, Bob Cook wrote: Dave-- The steam table indicates a condition of equilibrium between the liquid phase and the gaseous phase of

Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

2016-08-23 Thread David Roberson
As I have stated, if the steam is truly dry then plenty of power is being supplied to the customer. If the ERV is mistaken that the steam is dry then I.H. is likely correct. If everyone accepts that the true pressure of the steam is atmospheric while the temperature is 102.8 C then it is dry.

Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

2016-08-23 Thread David Roberson
Bob, Your question concerning the measured atmospheric pressure when the fluid output was reading 102 C remained on my mind last night. That did seem curious when it appeared that the vapor and liquid combination should be in equilibrium. My first thought was that perhaps a measurement error

Re: [Vo]:Interesting Steam Calculation

2016-08-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson wrote: Where did the pressure of 15.75 psi abs come from? I thought the pressure > of the 102C dry steam (assumed) was 1 atmos.--not 15.75 abs. > I think your assumed conditions above 1 atmos. were never measured. > Rossi reported the pressure was 0.0