[Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, For everybody's interest, it looks like Daniele Passerini (22passi) is going to post regular updates to his Twitter account regarding the 1MW E-Cat test supposed to be held today in Bologna: http://twitter.com/#!/22passi Alternate URL: http://yfrog.com/user/22passi/profile

[Vo]:The Associated Press reporter would be present at today test.

2011-10-28 Thread David ledin
The Associated Press reporter would be present at today test. Sterling D. Allan AP Writer Approved I just spoke to Andrea Rossi by phone. He invited me to come earlier than 11, at 9:30 am [GMT+1], as they “are ready”. He said the AP writer from NYC has the address, and is approved to attend;

Re: [Vo]:Your Oct 28 Predictions

2011-10-28 Thread peter . heckert
I make an alternative prediction: Rating 25 - 50. Lets assume the input power is measured and confirmed by the electrical company and it cannot been doubted. 1 MW of energy is enough to vaporize 1.345 m^3 of water (0°C) per hour. So the vaporized water is easy to measure and it is easy to

[Vo]:before the DEMO starts

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
My friends, please see: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/10/1mw-test-e-day-or-t-day-for-rossi.html I have written this before the demo starts- prediction cannot use facts from the future; the are for postdiction. . I have considered my duty of blogger and of new energy loyalist to tell

[Vo]:FYI- greater press about the DEMO

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markpmills/2011/10/28/the-relentless-pursuit-of-magical-energy/?partner=technology_newsletter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

[Vo]:Before the Test- Forbes comes down hard against Cold Fusion

2011-10-28 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex, So much ...from Forbes- they have replaced Mark Gibbs coverage of Cold Fusion with an Anti_Cold Fusion writer. His view: He doubts IF it will work..and even IF it works it is insignificant. His coverage late Oct 27th is go long on Exxon Mobil...Chevron. Oil technology has too

Re: [Vo]:Before the Test- Forbes comes down hard against Cold Fusion

2011-10-28 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 28.10.2011 13:22 Betreff: [Vo]:Before the Test- Forbes comes down hard against Cold Fusion Greetings Vortex, So much ...from Forbes- they have replaced Mark Gibbs coverage of Cold

Re: [Vo]:RUNNING COST FOR THE 1 MW E-Cat

2011-10-28 Thread Jorn Erik Ommang
Dr. Peter Gluck, Further to Your comment. The need for semi-continuous electrical heating of the many E-Cats in the I MW “Container-Cat” is, at the moment, the largest running cost in addition to the low-cost fuel (6 month running period) represented by the 10 kg modified nickel micro powder and

Re: [Vo]:Before the Test- Forbes comes down hard against Cold Fusion

2011-10-28 Thread Ron Kita
Yes..are some good points to the Mills Forbes article, but not as rosy as Mark Gibbs. Gibbs was inspiring. Ron On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:13 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: - Original Nachricht Von: Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum:

[Vo]:Steve Jobs Apple and Cold Fusion

2011-10-28 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex, It has been a number of years since I read I-Woz by Steve Wozniak, and according to memory: Steve Jobs approached HP and tried to get them interested in making personal computers...HP responsethere is no consumer market for such devices. Thank God that HP said that. The

Re: [Vo]:RUNNING COST FOR THE 1 MW E-Cat

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
Thank you very much for your detailed and welll docunented answer. Let's waith the global results of the Demo for the most relevant calculation. In your experience and not on;y for Italy what are the price ratios electric energy/thermal energy? Peter On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Jorn Erik

RE: [Vo]:FYI- greater press about the DEMO

2011-10-28 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Peter Gluck http://www.forbes.com/sites/markpmills/2011/10/28/the-relentless-pursuit-of- magical-energy/?partner=technology_newsletter The conclusion of the article: Is there a bet here? Root for the Italians if you're like me. Wouldn't it be fun if they were right? But if you're an

Aw: RE: [Vo]:FYI- greater press about the DEMO

2011-10-28 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 28.10.2011 14:50 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:FYI- greater press about the DEMO Let Joe Six Pack continue to bet on Oil. Meanwhile I hope Joe Public will simply

Re: [Vo]:RUNNING COST FOR THE 1 MW E-Cat

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Lynn
Everything you want is here: http://www.energy.eu/ On 28 October 2011 13:41, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much for your detailed and welll docunented answer. Let's waith the global results of the Demo for the most relevant calculation. In your experience and not

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
If his tweets are translating properly, the Reactor is running is the self-sustaining mode presently. He also says there are representatives from the Associated Press and the Old Grey Lady. Could be interesting. Hope it doesn't explode. T

[Vo]:new wired.co.uk article about today test.

2011-10-28 Thread David ledin
new wired article about today test. Cold Fusion: Future of physics or phoney? http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-10/28/cold-fusion

Re: [Vo]:RUNNING COST FOR THE 1 MW E-Cat

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
Thank you, Robert, very good site and I did't knew about it despite teaching Ecological Energetics to managers. It happens. Peter On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: Everything you want is here: http://www.energy.eu/ On 28 October 2011 13:41,

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-10-28 15:27, Terry Blanton wrote: and the Old Grey Lady. With NyT, he meant NyTeknik. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Claudio Eterno
if you refer to this Ci siamo appena autosostentati con un abbondante buffet! :)) it means: we are are eating, there are a lot of things on the table. bye C. Il giorno venerdì 28 ottobre 2011, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com ha scritto: If his tweets are translating properly, the Reactor is

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
It can be alluding to autosustaining of the Setup but it seems it says Daniele is autosustaining himself at the buffet. I have asked him if he happens to see much steam- no answer yet. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: If his tweets are translating

[Vo]:Forbes brings us back to stage 3

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
As noted, Forbes has published an attack on cold fusion: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markpmills/2011/10/28/the-relentless-pursuit-of-magical-energy/?partner=technology_newsletter This is by someone named Mark Mills. I believe he's a shill for the coal industry. It is a common name I suppose but

Re: [Vo]:RUNNING COST FOR THE 1 MW E-Cat

2011-10-28 Thread Jorn Erik Ommang
Dr. Peter Gluck, Further to Your question: The 1 MW “Container Energy Catalyser” (ContainerCat) Power Plant in its present form generate heath in the form of steam / hot water. As a thermal power plant it can be made to generate space water heating for factories and buildings. However, to put

Re: [Vo]:RUNNING COST FOR THE 1 MW E-Cat

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Jorn, Please accept my renewed thanks- I am waiting to see how mature is the 1MW demo. peter On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Jorn Erik Ommang j...@enerley.com wrote: Dr. Peter Gluck, Further to Your question: The 1 MW “Container Energy Catalyser” (ContainerCat) Power Plant in its

Re: RE: [Vo]:FYI- greater press about the DEMO

2011-10-28 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Peter: ... We have this already seen many times. There is definitely excess energy. Especially after the Kullander Essen Demo it was very clear that the input energy was too low to heat the water. But we also have seen errors in measurement that reduce the amout of energy and that

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
sigh Thanks for the corrections. So, it's after 3 pm there. When does the show begin? After the barrel of wine is consumed? :-) T

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Bruno Santos
Midnight... hope it doesn't turn out to be a sooner-tha-expected Halloween. 2011/10/28 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com sigh Thanks for the corrections. So, it's after 3 pm there. When does the show begin? After the barrel of wine is consumed? :-) T

[Vo]:Rossi: self-sustaining limit is around six hours

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Earlier I said that I do not know the limits of self-sustaining operation and it might go on in that mode indefinitely. Recently, Rossi said that the limit for this particular machine is around six hours. I do not recall where he said that but I am sure he did. Some people have said he should

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
Good news is: nothing exploded! 2011/10/28 Bruno Santos besantos1...@gmail.com Midnight... hope it doesn't turn out to be a sooner-tha-expected Halloween. 2011/10/28 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com sigh Thanks for the corrections. So, it's after 3 pm there. When does the show begin?

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Bruno Santos
So far... :-) 2011/10/28 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com Good news is: nothing exploded! 2011/10/28 Bruno Santos besantos1...@gmail.com Midnight... hope it doesn't turn out to be a sooner-tha-expected Halloween. 2011/10/28 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com sigh Thanks for the

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Terry, show begun some four hours ago. Daniele tweeted 60 minutes ago: »The coffee machine made famous by Krivit has never been put to the whip as it is today! :) Boys has the exclusive AP, Focus, NYT, expecting 22p» This means, that they are already making coffee there for the guests. Also

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Twitter screens do not auto-translate with Chrome. It seems you have to run the text through Google translate manually, here: http://translate.google.com/ - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
When a new batch of books soon to be published documenting the contentious history of Cold Fusion comes out, on the front cover of one of these books will be a photo of a coffee machine... perhaps with a modified eCat on top. A few insiders will get it. Most probably won't. Regards Steven

[Vo]:Tailgating on day zero for the E-Cat 1MW.

2011-10-28 Thread Sean True
Pretty clear from Passerini (@22passi) that the assembled witnesses are tailgating in the parking area (http://yfrog.com/z/hs6dppsj) while being allowed in one at a time to see the plant in operation. -- Sean

Re: [Vo]:Tailgating on day zero for the E-Cat 1MW.

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
I understand why it is not permitted to make photos of the Consultants of the Customer, but why not of the steam coming out from the Demo? On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Sean True sean.t...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty clear from Passerini (@22passi) that the assembled witnesses are tailgating in

Re: [Vo]:Tailgating on day zero for the E-Cat 1MW.

2011-10-28 Thread ecat builder
Per Rossi's blog, the steam is going into a dissapater, and then back into the plant. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: I understand why it is not permitted to make photos of the Consultants of the Customer, but why not of the steam coming out from the

RE: [Vo]:Tailgating on day zero for the E-Cat 1MW.

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Leguillon
So, if the steam is recirculating, is there a secondary flow and heat exchanger? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:43:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Tailgating on day zero for the E-Cat 1MW. From: ecatbuil...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Per Rossi's blog, the steam is going into a dissapater,

[Vo]:Rossi writes on the blog

2011-10-28 Thread Michele Comitini
Amazing! Rossi even finds time to write on his blog! http://goo.gl/ahMEA Andrea Rossi October 28th, 2011 at 10:37 AM FIRST INFORMATION REGARDING THE 1 MW PLANT TEST: WE SARTED REGULARLY THE TEST THIS MORNING . EVERYTHING IS GOING WELL SO FAR. THE 1 MW E-CAT IS WORKING IN SELF SUSTAINING.

Re: [Vo]:Tailgating on day zero for the E-Cat 1MW.

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
This dissipator or dissapator must be some type of condenser in which the steam is converted in water, supposedly hot. How is the heat produced by the setup- measured? On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:43 PM, ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: Per Rossi's blog, the steam is going into a

Re: [Vo]:Tailgating on day zero for the E-Cat 1MW.

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Sean True sean.t...@gmail.com wrote: Pretty clear from Passerini (@22passi) that the assembled witnesses are tailgating in the parking area (http://yfrog.com/z/hs6dppsj) while being allowed in one at a time to see the plant in operation. That's not tailgating.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: self-sustaining limit is around six hours

2011-10-28 Thread David Roberson
There may be a good reason for a limitation of 6 hours for self-sustaining mode. It would be far better if the reaction slowly damped out with time than for someone to have to vent the hydrogen or add much additional input water to achieve that result. You would thus be able to turn off the

Re: [Vo]:Rossi writes on the blog

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rossi wrote: FIRST INFORMATION REGARDING THE 1 MW PLANT TEST: WE SARTED REGULARLY THE TEST THIS MORNING . EVERYTHING IS GOING WELL SO FAR. THE 1 MW E-CAT IS WORKING IN SELF SUSTAINING. That is SPLENDID! Congratulations to Andrea Rossi. Say what you like about him, he has guts, and he has

Re: [Vo]:Rossi writes on the blog

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: That's what you expect from engineers and programmers. They may cheat on their wives and their taxes but when it comes to machines, they tell the truth. We never, ever cheat on our taxes!! T (you never know who's

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: self-sustaining limit is around six hours

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I am hoping that the test today will be well documented and we have access to the data. Am I dreaming? If, as Rossi claims, a third-party engineer is collecting the data we probably will have access to it. In lieu of that, Lewan is there and he will

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Twitter screens do not auto-translate with Chrome. Ah ha. Left click and select translate. Thanks Jouni Valkonen for telling me that. - Jed

[Vo]:October 28th Test Protocol

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Leguillon
Has anyone seen any data come through on test protocols? If the water/steam is recirculating, does this mean that the 1MW is entirely closed-loop? Is there NO water being added to the system? How is water flow rate in the primary being measured, if at all? How is temperature in the primary

[Vo]:Update by Wired UK---no current test info

2011-10-28 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex, Here is the spin on the Oct 28th Test by Wired. It is based on no current results. I was expecting a worse article from Wired: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-10/28/cold-fusion Ciao, Ron Kita

Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini

2011-10-28 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:29 AM 10/28/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Ah ha. Left click and select translate. Thanks Jouni Valkonen for telling me that. Right-click for me.

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi writes on the blog

2011-10-28 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Terry, That is true... hope your wife doesn't changes the locks :_) Fran -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 1:19 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi writes on the blog On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at

Re: [Vo]:Rossi: self-sustaining limit is around six hours

2011-10-28 Thread David Roberson
The skeptics remind me of defense lawyers. They can always come up with reasonable doubt as to whether or not their clients committed the crime. The extent to which the skeptics of the ECAT go to convince themselves that it is a scam amazes me. Of course it is always possible to perform

Re: [Vo]:Rossi writes on the blog

2011-10-28 Thread David Roberson
Everyone has the right to be wrong. It will be interesting to hear from these guys when the dust settles from the test. The supporters of Rossi likewise need to admit their error if by chance his ECAT monster system is a scam. I am hopeful that a small passage of time will reveal the truth.

[Vo]:Anticipating skeptical response.

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Lynn
So today is supposed to be the big day, but I've said that enough times to my friends and family over the last few months that I am starting to get embarassed, if you simply posit that Rossi is perpetrating a scam (even though I don't think he is) then we are still sitting here without solid

[Vo]:Report

2011-10-28 Thread Craig Haynie
from... PESNetwork PES Network, Inc. QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously during self-sustain; customer satisfied; sale made; more later.

[Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
Stirling Allan reports: *QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously during * *self-sustain; customer satisfied; sale made; more later.* I definitely like this client! Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Report

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Lynn
sounds about right compared to Oct 6 test 50 units * 3 cats per unit would imply about 3kW per e-cat On 28 October 2011 19:25, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: from... PESNetwork PES Network, Inc. QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously during

Re: [Vo]:Report

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: from... PESNetwork PES Network, Inc. QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously during self-sustain; customer satisfied; sale made; more later. At half nameplate! Hah! T

[Vo]:Dismaying rumors about October 28 test

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
I have heard that observers of today's tests are only being allowed to look at the equipment for a few minutes at a time, and they are not being introduced to the engineers who are taking the data. They are not being given a chance to establish the bona fides of these engineers, or to confirm that

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
That's ~3KW for every core... So, that's much less than the other test on 6th october, or at lest at the low end. And the client was promised 1 to 6 amplification! Wow, happened? 2011/10/28 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com Stirling Allan reports: *QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: That's ~3KW for every core... So, that's much less than the other test on 6th october, or at lest at the low end. And the client was promised 1 to 6 amplification! Wow, happened? If there was no input power, the

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
There certainly was input, as it always happen to achieve a threshold temperature to begin the reaction. But, anyway, this was not the promised test... 2011/10/28 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: That's ~3KW for every

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stirling Allan reported: *QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously during . . .* I believe Terry Blanton's prediction was the closest to this. He wins the prize here, if these results are confirmed. The difference between 470 kW and 1 MW is unimportant. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
I am so sorry that I don't know who is the Customer. I want to offer him a Trabant 1963 and ask the price of a Rolls Royce 2009. So I lose a great opportunity. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: There certainly was input, as it always happen to achieve a

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: And the client was promised 1 to 6 amplification! Wow, happened? The amplification was reportedly infinite, but anyway, how do you know what the customer was promised? Were you there during the negotiations? There certainly was input, as it always

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
If Rossi's Reactor output 470,000 watts using a sustained Nickel/Hydrogen reaction and an industrial client from the US just bought it, the world has changed more dramatically than when the Trinity site as alit. Vishnu also creates worlds. T

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
He always promised, during all these months, that the costumer would get a 1 to 6 ratio amplification. And we know that from what he says that self sustaining is not stable for long. Now, he does a test that is very within the energy density of 1L or 2L of propane in every core. --

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Bruno Santos
Wouldn't the client bother to open each unit and check what's inside? I wouldn't buy without taking a look inside each and every cat. 2011/10/28 Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com He always promised, during all these months, that the costumer would get a 1 to 6 ratio amplification. And we

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
If you do so, you are NOT the Good Customer and NOT the Good Fairy. Not joking, it's a very special Customer, too good to be true/real. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Bruno Santos besantos1...@gmail.comwrote: Wouldn't the client bother to open each unit and check what's inside? I wouldn't

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread ecat builder
The first priority is to win the sale. Getting outbid while kicking the tires would be devastating to the customer. The contract will specify that the sale is void if Rossi is using chemical shenanigans. The sooner the customer can start working on the technology, the faster they can establish

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
In fact, I am questioning the existence of a client. If no weird rumor appears in a few months, well, I will be sure that there was never an e-cat. Of course, the client can give up the deal like Defkalion did, and we(except me) will never know if anything happened today... 2011/10/28 Bruno

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread David Roberson
You have made an excellent point. I noticed that the self sustaining power was quite a bit below the driven power and this may demonstrate that phenomenon. Dave -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:45 pm

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread David Roberson
Wait until the final results are posted and then we will know the score. I recall that there were to be two of the 500 kwatt units to make up a complete system. This test may just evolve one. Dave -Original Message- From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-10-28 20:26, Peter Gluck wrote: Stirling Allan reports: *QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously during * *self-sustain; customer satisfied; sale made; more later.* I definitely like this client! Interesting comment on 22passi blog by an unidentified user

[Vo]:Moon landing a FAILURE !!!

2011-10-28 Thread Alan J Fletcher
NASA reports that although they planned to send TWO men to the surface of the moon, they decided at the last minute (due to a leaky gasket, and some control issues) to send only one (the other -- selected by a coin-toss) staying on the orbiter. Neil Armstrong successfully landed Eagle on the

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-10-28 21:52, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Interesting comment on 22passi blog by an unidentified user (who appears to be truthful), translated in English by me. I think he mistook kW and MW with kWh and MWh: More interestingly, the same user is also reporting that during the press

Re: [Vo]:Moon landing a FAILURE !!!

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: NASA reports that although they planned to send TWO men to the surface of the moon,  they decided at the last minute (due to a leaky gasket, and some control issues) to send only one (the other -- selected by a coin-toss)

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Heckert
If they only have heated water by about 50° then he would not need any permission. This would be 2 liters of hot water per second (estimated, not calculated). this are 7.2 m^3 per hour. This should be possible. However, how did they cool down the water (or condense the steam) to recycle it?

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert wrote: If they only have heated water by about 50° then he would not need any permission. In the U.S. you are not allowed to operate a boiler as large as this without a permit. It makes no difference whether it produces steam or hot water. You must have a permit; the machine

Re: [Vo]:Report

2011-10-28 Thread Drowning Trout
Self-Sustaining mode for the 1MW ecat is ~470kw. (No input!) Regular operation with electrical input (~167kw) outputs the 1MW of thermal energy claimed by the nameplate. 6:1 Exciting day! 10 months of waiting! On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri,

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 28.10.2011 22:59, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert wrote: If they only have heated water by about 50° then he would not need any permission. In the U.S. you are not allowed to operate a boiler as large as this without a permit. It makes no difference whether it produces steam or hot

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 28.10.2011 23:15, schrieb Peter Heckert: The problem is, the heat must be dissipated or stored somewhere. Even at 470kW this cannot been done easily. How was this done? Has nobody seen something. Where there big ventilators running? This must give more than 7 m^3 of hot water per hour or

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-10-28 23:15, Peter Heckert wrote: The problem is, the heat must be dissipated or stored somewhere. Even at 470kW this cannot been done easily. How was this done? Has nobody seen something. Where there big ventilators running? Another 22passi user who was there mentions there were six

[Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event

2011-10-28 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, This is from PESN. Great video quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sZHOQ6P-Rw Possibly more coming soon. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Another 22passi user who was there mentions there were six large (1.5x1.5 meters) heat exchangers with approximately 1 meter wide cooling fans. Ah! Finally some technical details. That sounds good. Six large heat exchangers sounds like what

Re: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event

2011-10-28 Thread ecat builder
More here: reactor running: http://www.youtube.com/user/PESNetwork Possibly more coming soon.

Re: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event

2011-10-28 Thread Ron Wormus
Sheese... hold the camera still. Love that crazy sweater! --On Friday, October 28, 2011 2:57 PM -0700 ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: More here: reactor running: http://www.youtube.com/user/PESNetwork Possibly more coming soon.

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-10-28 23:56, Jed Rothwell wrote: Ah! Finally some technical details. That sounds good. Six large heat exchangers sounds like what you would need. Where did you read that? URL please! I read it in one of the latest comments of 22passi Blog user nemo here:

Re: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
More: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFiJb2UhzqYfeature=youtu.be

Re: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
That is wonderful! Splendid! You have to love a gigantic noisy machine. I can't wait to hear the details. Rossi is right about one thing: people will be impressed by the sheer scale of this thing. Some will believe it just because it is so big and so wonderfully loud. In the short video he

Fw: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event

2011-10-28 Thread John Harris
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event Obviously told to point the camera down most of the time Hard to fudge the input figures when the ecat is powered by a gen set - I like that and very easy to work out the

[Vo]:Photos of test report and a spreadsheet

2011-10-28 Thread Sean True
have been posted on Rossi's blog (JONP). Let the digestion begin. -- Sean

Re: [Vo]:Photos of test report and a spreadsheet

2011-10-28 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-10-29 00:23, Sean True wrote: have been posted on Rossi's blog (JONP). Download link in ZIP format: http://db.tt/wu4OLbgk Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Dismaying rumors about October 28 test

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Yikes. This kind of confirms what I heard. I fear this may mean we will not find out who did this test or whether they are independent. I don't want to jump to conclusions but this sounds bad: http://peswiki.com/index.php/News:October_28%2C_2011_Test_of_the_One_Megawatt_E-Cat QUOTE I just got

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 28.10.2011 23:38, schrieb Akira Shirakawa: On 2011-10-28 23:15, Peter Heckert wrote: The problem is, the heat must be dissipated or stored somewhere. Even at 470kW this cannot been done easily. How was this done? Has nobody seen something. Where there big ventilators running? Another

Re: [Vo]:Photos of test report and a spreadsheet

2011-10-28 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:24 PM 10/28/2011, Akira Shirakawa wrote: On 2011-10-29 00:23, Sean True wrote: have been posted on Rossi's blog (JONP). Download link in ZIP format: http://db.tt/wu4OLbgk Hmmm ... I don't see any measurement of steam quality in the contract jpg's

Re: [Vo]:Photos of test report and a spreadsheet

2011-10-28 Thread Bruno Santos
This report is meaningless. We need the raw data from a reliable source outside Rossi's circle of trust. At Daniele Passerini's blog comments someone said that the company is a food producer (!??!). Weird. 2011/10/28 Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com At 03:24 PM 10/28/2011, Akira Shirakawa

Re: Fw: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM, John Harris jfhar...@dodo.com.au wrote: Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event Obviously told to point the camera down most of the time Hard to fudge the input figures when the ecat

[Vo]:Voice input draft of Rossi Oct. 28 test documents

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Documents downloaded here: http://db.tt/wu4OLbgk This includes the spreadsheet and three photographs of a document. I just read the document aloud to voice input. This is practically uncorrected. I left out some parts. I apologize for uploading uncorrected text. I would appreciate if someone

Re: Fw: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Leguillon
/snip/ We will all await further data before issuing judgement, right? /snip/ Anxiously awaiting Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:21 PM, John Harris jfhar...@dodo.com.au wrote: Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:First video from

Re: [Vo]:Voice input draft of Rossi Oct. 28 test documents

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: For the customer (omitted – confidential): engineer Appears to read Colonel - Domenico Fioravanti The Colonel is scratched out. Colonel Sanders?? KFC? A new way to cook chicken? Kewl! Hot! T

Re: [Vo]:Voice input draft of Rossi Oct. 28 test documents

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Appears to read Colonel - Domenico Fioravanti Digital Solutions Srl.? http://www.linkedin.com/in/domenicofioravanti T

Re: [Vo]:Photos of test report and a spreadsheet

2011-10-28 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:48 PM 10/28/2011, Bruno Santos wrote: This report is meaningless. We need the raw data from a reliable source outside Rossi's circle of trust. At Daniele Passerini's blog comments someone said that the company is a food producer (!??!). Weird. Why weird? They use LOTS and LOTS of

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