Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Forum Closed

2012-03-02 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Jarold, I do not understand from where this myth is spreading. Defkalion has not violated anything they have said. There has already been made two out of seven independent validation tests following precisely the test protocol. And they were successful as far as we know. Too bad that Dick

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Forum Closed

2012-03-02 Thread Alain Sepeda
*Ithink that it is a problem of image in front of very conservative officials... anyway la nature a horreur du vide http://www.defkalion.se/ don't know if it is a good forum... * 2012/3/2 Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.com I don't think the skepticism was bad at all on their forums. I

Re: [Vo]:OT: $35 computer sells out on first day of launch

2012-03-02 Thread Bastiaan Bergman
Jones, I respect you too, but also disagree, :-) Real fusion cannot occur without substantial gamma radiation What a nonsense is that? If you mean with real, established, then ok. I think there is no principal reason for gamma and neutron radiation in all fusion reactions (there is in plasma

Re: [Vo]:Physice depends on choice of coordinates

2012-03-02 Thread James Bowery
Newton's laws in spherical coordinates Sure... why not? Give it a try and report back. On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:26 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I do not agree that the choice of coordinate systems changes the physics of any experiment. I only see the coordinate system

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion Forum Closed

2012-03-02 Thread zer tte
While i agree on the fact that Defkalion somehow did what what they said they would do (allowing independent testing), meanwhile where are the tests protocols (maybe i missed something) ? I believe they're sending mixed signals by closing the forum. I can totally understand the fact they want

[Vo]:The power generator that runs by water

2012-03-02 Thread zer tte
Just noticed a Vietnamese scientist recently announced an other device : The additive that makes the water boiled, according to Dr Khe, is a kind of chemical using nano technology. The chemical substance can liberates hydrogen, and then joins the catalytic process to separate electron and proton

Re: [Vo]:Partial list of coal fire power plants being shut down in the NE

2012-03-02 Thread fznidarsic
I don't know if all of the natural gas will really be. Problems are coming up with Benzine injections and other fracking injections. Drilling has slowed here in Western PA, it has not worked out as well as planned. I like Obama the way he talks, acts, and his ideals on woman's rights,

Re: [Vo]:The power generator that runs by water

2012-03-02 Thread zer tte
Some infos about dr KHE : The nanotechnology lab at SHTP Labs had been officially founded in 2004 leaded by Dr. Nguyen Chanh Khe (a PhD in information physics from Tokyo Institute of Technology in 1982, who owns 37 US patents and 30 Japanese  patents) as Lab Director until now. The

Re: [Vo]:Physice depends on choice of coordinates

2012-03-02 Thread David Roberson
I imagine that Newton's laws would be difficult to understand in certain coordinate systems but that does not suggest that they fail to function. Are you implying that the laws of physics work or not depending upon the view point? I contend that the real world does not care what coordinate

Re: [Vo]:The power generator that runs by water

2012-03-02 Thread zer tte
http://www.sggp.org.vn/khoahoc_congnghe/2012/1/277882/ Funny google translation : Dr. Nguyen Chanh Khe (right) and colleagues are drunk with power generators to run their water According to Dr. Nguyen Chanh Khe, turbines use water more economically as a catalyst in the machine can be recycled

[Vo]:To Radiate or Not to Radiate

2012-03-02 Thread Joseph Hao
Hey Vortex Gang, My primary question motivating this post/query is to get a consensus on whether the presence of radiation is a necessary prerequisite for LENR/Cold Fusion Effects. IOW, is radiation ALWAYS present when an LENR/Cold Fusion effect occurs. On one hand, there appears to be

Re: [Vo]:Partial list of coal fire power plants being shut down in the NE

2012-03-02 Thread David Roberson
I agree with you Frank. The coal reserves within this country will last for hundreds of years while the others are iffy. I am afraid that Obama is more concerned with the votes of the green groups than the future health of the country. It is time to cut back spending upon hot fusion mega

Re: [Vo]:To Radiate or Not to Radiate

2012-03-02 Thread David Roberson
I wish you well in your experimentation. It is not clear to me that radiation can be depended upon as a clear proof that useful levels of power are being generated by an LENR source. Others may disagree but the most successful devices that have been put forward appear to emit a minor amount

RE: [Vo]:To Radiate or Not to Radiate

2012-03-02 Thread Jones Beene
That is not correct. Many chemical and mechanical processes produce radiation well into the x-ray range - even something as mundane as Scotch tape. http://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/25/science/sci-tape25 Forget a cloud chamber. You need a dedicated meter with data logging. Although

Re: [Vo]:To Radiate or Not to Radiate

2012-03-02 Thread Jojo Jaro
Yes, dedicated meter with data logging together with data logging of the temperature of the reactor reactants. I plan to correlate radiation spikes with temperature spikes of the reactants. This wuold be a good way of verifying the LENR effects. Yes, there are many radiation sources in our

Re: [Vo]:The Vort Collective, collectively speaking, possess many collective Hive Minds!

2012-03-02 Thread Harry Veeder
Since each bee has its own brain, this hive model suggests each neuron in our brain has its own brain. But i don't think that is how they want their model interpreted. Instead, the individual bee is assumed to be brainless. But if the individual bee is brainless, are they really modelling a brain

Re: [Vo]:Nature Editorial: If you want reproducible science, the software needs to be open source

2012-03-02 Thread Harry Veeder
Steven, I was puzzled because I took your bouncing ball metaphor literally. Thanks David and Robert. I guess the graph approaches the path described by bouncing ball as the ellipse becomes flatter. harry On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 12:01 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: The orbital

RE: [Vo]:To Radiate or Not to Radiate

2012-03-02 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Then there is the problem that energetic particles may be oriented in a particular direction, so where do you place your detector? It probably depends somewhat on the geometry of the core, and the orientation of its physical structure. If you have the resources, obtain multiple detectors and

Re: [Vo]:Physice depends on choice of coordinates

2012-03-02 Thread Harry Veeder
At the top of the cited wiki page, it starts with the simplifying assumption of *point* charges. Perhaps the discrepancy would disappear with a more realistic model of charges. I dunno. Ask a mathematician. Harry On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:03 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I

Re: [Vo]:Nature Editorial: If you want reproducible science, the software needs to be open source

2012-03-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
I have another update concerning my on-going theoretical research into characteristics of celestial mechanic algorithms. Last Wednesday I mentioned the fact that another way to graph an elliptical orbit (an orbit that obeys Kepler's 1st, 2nd, and 3rd laws) would be to plot the satellite's

Re: [Vo]:To Radiate or Not to Radiate

2012-03-02 Thread Jojo Jaro
Thanks Mark. My reactor would be totally enclosed inside the cylindrical wall, which is the Ion chamber Anode. The reactor itself will be the Ion chamber Cathode. This would detect any ionizing ray in any which way except when it is perfectly parallel to the axis of the reactor, which would

Re: [Vo]:Physice depends on choice of coordinates

2012-03-02 Thread James Bowery
I'm only pointing out a practical consideration that is central to science. If you can't communicate you relinquish reproducibility. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:03 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I imagine that Newton's laws would be difficult to understand in certain coordinate

[Vo]:Miley obtains 350W from Pd nanoparticle cell at room temp

2012-03-02 Thread pagnucco
A Game-Changing Power Source Based on Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (LENRs) http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/nets2012/pdf/3051.pdf To be presented March 22, at The Woodslands, TX at NETS (Nuclear and Emerging Technologies for Space meeting) http://anstd.ans.org/NETS2012/NETS2012Home.html

[Vo]:A new use for the Vortex ... Vortex Radio Waves

2012-03-02 Thread Ron Wormus
Really creative! http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/120803-vortex-radio-waves-could-boost-wireless-capacity-infinitely

Re: [Vo]:Miley obtains 350W from Pd nanoparticle cell at room temp

2012-03-02 Thread pagnucco
Corrections: Title line should read 350W/Kg - date is March 23 - session URL is http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/nets2012/pdf/sess462.pdf Does anyone know whether Dick Smith's offer extends to Miley's lab, and whether Miley would accept? Lou Pagnucco A Game-Changing Power Source Based on Low

Re: [Vo]:Miley obtains 350W from Pd nanoparticle cell at room temp

2012-03-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
Yes, to anyone... 2012/3/2 pagnu...@htdconnect.com Corrections: Title line should read 350W/Kg - date is March 23 - session URL is http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/nets2012/pdf/sess462.pdf Does anyone know whether Dick Smith's offer extends to Miley's lab, and whether Miley would accept?

RE: [Vo]:To Radiate or Not to Radiate

2012-03-02 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
JoJo: First, I applaud your open-mindedness and efforts! You stated: This would detect any ionizing ray in any which way except when it is perfectly parallel to the axis of the reactor, which would cause it to exit the ends of the cylindrical walls before it has a chance to ionize any gas

RE: [Vo]:A new use for the Vortex ... Vortex Radio Waves

2012-03-02 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
Kewl! And so kind of them to name it after this forum! :-) -Original Message- From: Ron Wormus [mailto:prot...@frii.com] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:18 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:A new use for the Vortex ... Vortex Radio Waves Really creative!

Re: [Vo]:Miley obtains 350W from Pd nanoparticle cell at room temp

2012-03-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
3Kg costs ~$60k. 1 miilon would be a good prize. 2012/3/2 pagnu...@htdconnect.com Corrections: Title line should read 350W/Kg - date is March 23 - session URL is http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/nets2012/pdf/sess462.pdf Does anyone know whether Dick Smith's offer extends to Miley's lab, and

Re: [Vo]:Miley obtains 350W from Pd nanoparticle cell at room temp

2012-03-02 Thread Peter Gluck
I hope that at the 25th Anniversary of CF, palladium will be history. Its limits are inherent and incurable. And it's its scarcity is annihilating the chances to be an important source of energy. 350W per kg...multiply it by 1000 and it starts to become interesting Peter On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at

Re: [Vo]:To Radiate or Not to Radiate

2012-03-02 Thread integral.property.serv...@gmail.com
Jojo, Recalled Dr. Santilli evacuated his building and property fearing harmful radiation at one stage of experimenting with unknown consequences. Either I was chatting with him about a year ago at his plant in tarpon Springs, FL or came across it in published literature. The thrust of his

Re: [Vo]:Miley obtains 350W from Pd nanoparticle cell at room temp

2012-03-02 Thread pagnucco
Yes - pretty expensive, but as Daniel Rocha points out, they might be able to claim the $1M prize with an investment of $60,000. Also, it's worth noting that the nanoparticles are not pure Pd. Perhaps, too, if Miley were to accept the challenge, a Pd supplier might provide it just for

Re: [Vo]:Miley obtains 350W from Pd nanoparticle cell at room temp

2012-03-02 Thread Randy Wuller
Guys: Nobody can win the Dick Smith Prize because he isn't offering it to anyone doing LENR/Cold Fusion, now if you belong to some respected organization, he says he'll give it to you for confirming Miley, assuming the rest of the world agrees with you. In other words itvis a joke. Ransom

[Vo]:Next Big Future interviews Steven Krivit

2012-03-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Next Big Future: March 02, 2012 Steven Krivit and the troubling case of Andrea Rossi http://nextbigfuture.com/2012/03/steven-krivit-and-troubling-case-of.html As one might expect, Krivit's assessment of Rossi is fairly damning. OTOH, read the following concluding QA: NBF - Question 12:

[Vo]:FYI: interesting (or more like long overdue) findings on structure of atomic nucleus...

2012-03-02 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
New picture of atomic nucleus emerges http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-03-picture-atomic-nucleus-emerges.html .a quarter of the nucleons in a dense nucleus exceed 25 percent of the speed of light, turning the picture of a static nucleus on its head. Hell, I could have told then that!

Re: [Vo]:Next Big Future interviews Steven Krivit

2012-03-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
On his website: Steven Krivit is the editor of the *New Energy Timeshttp://www.newenergytimes.com/index.shtml .* Krivit is [b]an authority[/b] on low-energy nuclear reactions (LENRs), and has spent the past decade thoroughly and scientifically studying LENR phenomena. Self description. What a

RE: [Vo]:Next Big Future interviews Steven Krivit

2012-03-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Daniel: On his website: Steven Krivit is the editor of the New Energy Times. Krivit is [b]an authority[/b] on low-energy nuclear reactions (LENRs), and has spent the past decade thoroughly and scientifically studying LENR phenomena. Self description. What a sad joke. I

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