[Vo]:LENR BIG DATA, PROPERLY PROCESSED

[Peter Gluck]

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/11/nov-12-2016-lenr-big-data-properly.html

wish you a fine weekend, my friends!

peter
-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
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Re: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons

[Axil Axil]

THE ELECTROSCOPE

I built an Electroscope in fourth grade. Its easy to build and use.
This device can detect muon ionization in the same way that it can
detect beta radiation.


Electrostatics at Home

https://mysite.du.edu/~jcalvert/phys/elechome.htm

My electroscope used two gold leaf strips that separated when a charge
was applied to the electrode.

Movement of the strips will show a change in the ionization level
around the reactor. Aren't you experimenters ashamed of such a
horrendous lack of attention to such an important aspect of LENR when
its detection is so easy and cheap?






On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Jones Beene  wrote:
> For those who suspect that the Holmlid effect and the Mills effect are
> related, no matter what the proponents of each may think, here is a further
> thought from the fringe … about one of the possible implications. Holmlid
> has suggested that a very high flux of muons can be produced by a subwatt
> laser beam.
>
> Mills uses an electric arc and will probably offer a real demo of the
> Suncell® at some point. No one doubts that it works but an extended demo
> will be needed… therefore, even if everything seen thus far is little more
> than PR fluff, we could have a worrisome situation in response to a much
> longer demo.
>
> Since Mills is applying higher net power to reactants (even if Holmlid’s
> laser provides more localized power) there is a chance that some portion of
> the energy produced escapes the sun-cell as muons. If Holmlid gets millions
> of muons per watt of coherent light, what will be the corresponding rate be
> from an electric arc? If anything like this scenario turns out to be the
> accurate, then any muons produced will decay at a predictable distance away
> from the reactor, thus they could have been missed by BrLP in testing thus
> far.
>
> The muon is an unstable fermion with a lifetime of 2.2 microseconds, which
> is an eternity compared to most beta decays. Ignoring time dilation, this
> would mean that muons, travelling at light speed, would be dispersing and
> decaying in an imaginary sphere about 600 meters from the reactor. Thus, the
> effect of radioactive decay could be significant at unexpected distance– and
> Mills may never had imagined that this is a problem. Fortunately, humans are
> exposed to a constant flux of muons due to cosmic rays, and the flux is
> well-tolerated.
>
> Nevertheless, this detail is worth noting – and should Mills or his
> associates start to feel a bit ill from the exposure – possibly an
> unseasonal sun tan, then we can identify a culprit.
>
> The effects could be felt more in a remote office - than in the lab … which
> is curious.

Re: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons

[Teslaalset]

How about deflecting muon paths by strong magnetic fields.
I found this info

.


On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:

> Unsolicited observations of identical experimental consequences lends
> credence to the production of a common causative reaction. For
> example, Defkalion saw not advantage in reporting a major problem that
> they suffered in the testing and demonstration of their system that
> later ture up in other systems. ME356 explained why his testing
> instruments and sensors were malfunctioning 3 meters away from his
> reaction. This is very similar to what Defkalion had reported.
>
> Now Holmlid tells why such observations are a result of muon
> production. Now, the picture becomes a little clearer, a common thread
> can be drawn to the point that if ionization production is not
> observed in a LENR experimental situation, then the power production
> of the reaction and even its existence is rightly questioned.
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Brian Ahern  wrote:
> > Toomuch credit is being given to Me356 andDefkalion. For that matter,
> Mills
> > also has a troublesome history. His latest announcement seems curiously
> like
> > a 'Me too' response to .
> >
> > the E
> >
> > The discussion seems to accept the fraudulent claims and empowers them.
> If
> > this was a legalaction we would refer to the 'alledged energy
> production'.
> >
> > 
> > From: Jones Beene 
> > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:15 PM
> > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Axil Axil  If LENR is heavily deployed in a high density urban
> > housing situation, then a dense field of general muon interference will
> > produce a impossible to shield zone of electronic and electrical failure.
> > 
> >
> > There is a well-known way to mollify this problem affordably, and provide
> > extra energy at the same time. Lead itself is way too expensive.
> >
> > The idea is to capture muons in a thick jacket around the reactor. Very
> > thick. The only way to do this cheaply is specialty concrete.
> >
> > 10 feet thickness of specialty concrete which is made with the addition
> of
> > iron ore and lead ore to Portland cement will convert 90% of muons into
> low
> > grade heat. Copper tubing can remove the heat. Not fancy, but ideal for
> > places like northern China and Russia which can use lots of low grade
> heat.
> > A dollar of lead ore is superior to $100 of lead metal.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons

[Axil Axil]

Unsolicited observations of identical experimental consequences lends
credence to the production of a common causative reaction. For
example, Defkalion saw not advantage in reporting a major problem that
they suffered in the testing and demonstration of their system that
later ture up in other systems. ME356 explained why his testing
instruments and sensors were malfunctioning 3 meters away from his
reaction. This is very similar to what Defkalion had reported.

Now Holmlid tells why such observations are a result of muon
production. Now, the picture becomes a little clearer, a common thread
can be drawn to the point that if ionization production is not
observed in a LENR experimental situation, then the power production
of the reaction and even its existence is rightly questioned.

On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Brian Ahern  wrote:
> Toomuch credit is being given to Me356 andDefkalion. For that matter, Mills
> also has a troublesome history. His latest announcement seems curiously like
> a 'Me too' response to .
>
> the E
>
> The discussion seems to accept the fraudulent claims and empowers them. If
> this was a legalaction we would refer to the 'alledged energy production'.
>
> 
> From: Jones Beene 
> Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:15 PM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Axil Axil  If LENR is heavily deployed in a high density urban
> housing situation, then a dense field of general muon interference will
> produce a impossible to shield zone of electronic and electrical failure.
> 
>
> There is a well-known way to mollify this problem affordably, and provide
> extra energy at the same time. Lead itself is way too expensive.
>
> The idea is to capture muons in a thick jacket around the reactor. Very
> thick. The only way to do this cheaply is specialty concrete.
>
> 10 feet thickness of specialty concrete which is made with the addition of
> iron ore and lead ore to Portland cement will convert 90% of muons into low
> grade heat. Copper tubing can remove the heat. Not fancy, but ideal for
> places like northern China and Russia which can use lots of low grade heat.
> A dollar of lead ore is superior to $100 of lead metal.
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons

[Brian Ahern]

Toomuch credit is being given to Me356 andDefkalion. For that matter, Mills 
also has a troublesome history. His latest announcement seems curiously like a 
'Me too' response to .

the E

The discussion seems to accept the fraudulent claims and empowers them. If this 
was a legalaction we would refer to the 'alledged energy production'.


From: Jones Beene 
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 1:15 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons

-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil  If LENR is heavily deployed in a high density urban 
housing situation, then a dense field of general muon interference will produce 
a impossible to shield zone of electronic and electrical failure.


There is a well-known way to mollify this problem affordably, and provide extra 
energy at the same time. Lead itself is way too expensive.

The idea is to capture muons in a thick jacket around the reactor. Very thick. 
The only way to do this cheaply is specialty concrete.

10 feet thickness of specialty concrete which is made with the addition of iron 
ore and lead ore to Portland cement will convert 90% of muons into low grade 
heat. Copper tubing can remove the heat. Not fancy, but ideal for places like 
northern China and Russia which can use lots of low grade heat. A dollar of 
lead ore is superior to $100 of lead metal.

RE: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons

[Jones Beene]

-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil  If LENR is heavily deployed in a high density urban 
housing situation, then a dense field of general muon interference will produce 
a impossible to shield zone of electronic and electrical failure.


There is a well-known way to mollify this problem affordably, and provide extra 
energy at the same time. Lead itself is way too expensive.

The idea is to capture muons in a thick jacket around the reactor. Very thick. 
The only way to do this cheaply is specialty concrete.

10 feet thickness of specialty concrete which is made with the addition of iron 
ore and lead ore to Portland cement will convert 90% of muons into low grade 
heat. Copper tubing can remove the heat. Not fancy, but ideal for places like 
northern China and Russia which can use lots of low grade heat. A dollar of 
lead ore is superior to $100 of lead metal.

Re: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons

[Axil Axil]

My posts revised and extended as follows:

The rule of thumb for light speed signal propagation is one foot per
nanosecond. For the muon, a decay time on the average of 2.2
microseconds implies that the field of muon decay is on the order of
2,200 feet. muon decay can happen inside this 2,200 foot sphere or far
outside it based on the vagaries of radioactive decay. The muon will
not induce fusion until its energy is reduced enough to be captured by
an atom. otherwise it will pass through less dense material without
interaction.

Because of entanglement, the fusion energy will be sent back to the
source of the muon as a mechanism of the way LENR works so the fusion
reaction will be hard to detect in the far field. In detail, no
neutrons or gamma will be produced or detected.

But as eros has found, if a heavy shield of lead and iron is placed in
the flight path of the muon, the muon slows down and begins to react
with atoms. Eros, a LENR experimenter with a functioning reactor began
to detect nuclear reactions just outside the heavy lead and iron
shield using a copper covered radiation counter. The dense matter is
ionized enough to slow the muon flight quickly and produce rapid
secondary nuclear reaction in the near field.

One thing that Holmlid, ME356, Eros, and Defkalion all have detected
is a high state of ionization as muons interact with matter and
ionize it. There must be a truly huge flux of muons produced by LENR
to disable electronic equipment at meters away from the LENR reaction.

If LENR is heavily deployed in a high density urban housing situation,
then a dense field of general muon interference will produce a
impossible to shield zone of electronic and electrical failure.

Ionization of tissue inside of the human body will also occur. How this
ionization will affect the activity of nerves and the function of the brain
is yet not known.

On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:
> More...
>
> One thing that Holmlid, ME356, Eros, and Defkalion all have detected
> is a high state of ionization as muons interacted with matter and
> ionized it. There must be a huge flux of muons produced to disable
> electronic equipment at meters away from the LENR reaction.
>
> If LENR is heavily deployed in a high density urban housing situation,
> then a dense field of general muon interference will produce a
> impossible to shield zone of electronic and electrical failure.
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:
>> The rule of thumb for light speed propagation is one foot per
>> nanosecond. For the muon, a decay time on the average of 2.2
>> microseconds implies that the field of muon decay is on the order of
>> 2200 feet. muon decay can happen inside this 2200 foot sphere or far
>> outside it based on the vagaries of radioactive decay.  The muon will
>> not induce fusion until its energy is reduced enough to be captured by
>> an atom. otherwise it will pass through less dense material without
>> interaction.
>>
>> Because of entanglement, the fusion energy will be sent back to the
>> source of the muon as a mechanism of the way LENR works so the fusion
>> reaction will be hard to detect in the far field. In detail, no
>> neutrons or gamma will be produced or detected.
>>
>> But as eros has found, if a heavy shield of lead and iron is placed in
>> the flight path of the muon, the muon slows down and begins to react
>> with atoms. Eros, a LENR experimenter with a functioning reactor began
>> to detect nuclear reactions just outside the heavy lead and iron
>> shield using a copper covered radiation counter. The dense matter is
>> ionized enough to slow the muon flight quickly and produce rapid
>> secondary nuclear reaction in the near field.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Jones Beene  wrote:
>>> For those who suspect that the Holmlid effect and the Mills effect are
>>> related, no matter what the proponents of each may think, here is a further
>>> thought from the fringe … about one of the possible implications. Holmlid
>>> has suggested that a very high flux of muons can be produced by a subwatt
>>> laser beam.
>>>
>>> Mills uses an electric arc and will probably offer a real demo of the
>>> Suncell® at some point. No one doubts that it works but an extended demo
>>> will be needed… therefore, even if everything seen thus far is little more
>>> than PR fluff, we could have a worrisome situation in response to a much
>>> longer demo.
>>>
>>> Since Mills is applying higher net power to reactants (even if Holmlid’s
>>> laser provides more localized power) there is a chance that some portion of
>>> the energy produced escapes the sun-cell as muons. If Holmlid gets millions
>>> of muons per watt of coherent light, what will be the corresponding rate be
>>> from an electric arc? If anything like this scenario turns out to be the
>>> accurate, then any muons produced will decay at a predictable distance away
>>> 

Re: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons

[Axil Axil]

More...

One thing that Holmlid, ME356, Eros, and Defkalion all have detected
is a high state of ionization as muons interacted with matter and
ionized it. There must be a huge flux of muons produced to disable
electronic equipment at meters away from the LENR reaction.

If LENR is heavily deployed in a high density urban housing situation,
then a dense field of general muon interference will produce a
impossible to shield zone of electronic and electrical failure.

On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:
> The rule of thumb for light speed propagation is one foot per
> nanosecond. For the muon, a decay time on the average of 2.2
> microseconds implies that the field of muon decay is on the order of
> 2200 feet. muon decay can happen inside this 2200 foot sphere or far
> outside it based on the vagaries of radioactive decay.  The muon will
> not induce fusion until its energy is reduced enough to be captured by
> an atom. otherwise it will pass through less dense material without
> interaction.
>
> Because of entanglement, the fusion energy will be sent back to the
> source of the muon as a mechanism of the way LENR works so the fusion
> reaction will be hard to detect in the far field. In detail, no
> neutrons or gamma will be produced or detected.
>
> But as eros has found, if a heavy shield of lead and iron is placed in
> the flight path of the muon, the muon slows down and begins to react
> with atoms. Eros, a LENR experimenter with a functioning reactor began
> to detect nuclear reactions just outside the heavy lead and iron
> shield using a copper covered radiation counter. The dense matter is
> ionized enough to slow the muon flight quickly and produce rapid
> secondary nuclear reaction in the near field.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Jones Beene  wrote:
>> For those who suspect that the Holmlid effect and the Mills effect are
>> related, no matter what the proponents of each may think, here is a further
>> thought from the fringe … about one of the possible implications. Holmlid
>> has suggested that a very high flux of muons can be produced by a subwatt
>> laser beam.
>>
>> Mills uses an electric arc and will probably offer a real demo of the
>> Suncell® at some point. No one doubts that it works but an extended demo
>> will be needed… therefore, even if everything seen thus far is little more
>> than PR fluff, we could have a worrisome situation in response to a much
>> longer demo.
>>
>> Since Mills is applying higher net power to reactants (even if Holmlid’s
>> laser provides more localized power) there is a chance that some portion of
>> the energy produced escapes the sun-cell as muons. If Holmlid gets millions
>> of muons per watt of coherent light, what will be the corresponding rate be
>> from an electric arc? If anything like this scenario turns out to be the
>> accurate, then any muons produced will decay at a predictable distance away
>> from the reactor, thus they could have been missed by BrLP in testing thus
>> far.
>>
>> The muon is an unstable fermion with a lifetime of 2.2 microseconds, which
>> is an eternity compared to most beta decays. Ignoring time dilation, this
>> would mean that muons, travelling at light speed, would be dispersing and
>> decaying in an imaginary sphere about 600 meters from the reactor. Thus, the
>> effect of radioactive decay could be significant at unexpected distance– and
>> Mills may never had imagined that this is a problem. Fortunately, humans are
>> exposed to a constant flux of muons due to cosmic rays, and the flux is
>> well-tolerated.
>>
>> Nevertheless, this detail is worth noting – and should Mills or his
>> associates start to feel a bit ill from the exposure – possibly an
>> unseasonal sun tan, then we can identify a culprit.
>>
>> The effects could be felt more in a remote office - than in the lab … which
>> is curious.

Re: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons

[Axil Axil]

The rule of thumb for light speed propagation is one foot per
nanosecond. For the muon, a decay time on the average of 2.2
microseconds implies that the field of muon decay is on the order of
2200 feet. muon decay can happen inside this 2200 foot sphere or far
outside it based on the vagaries of radioactive decay.  The muon will
not induce fusion until its energy is reduced enough to be captured by
an atom. otherwise it will pass through less dense material without
interaction.

Because of entanglement, the fusion energy will be sent back to the
source of the muon as a mechanism of the way LENR works so the fusion
reaction will be hard to detect in the far field. In detail, no
neutrons or gamma will be produced or detected.

But as eros has found, if a heavy shield of lead and iron is placed in
the flight path of the muon, the muon slows down and begins to react
with atoms. Eros, a LENR experimenter with a functioning reactor began
to detect nuclear reactions just outside the heavy lead and iron
shield using a copper covered radiation counter. The dense matter is
ionized enough to slow the muon flight quickly and produce rapid
secondary nuclear reaction in the near field.



On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Jones Beene  wrote:
> For those who suspect that the Holmlid effect and the Mills effect are
> related, no matter what the proponents of each may think, here is a further
> thought from the fringe … about one of the possible implications. Holmlid
> has suggested that a very high flux of muons can be produced by a subwatt
> laser beam.
>
> Mills uses an electric arc and will probably offer a real demo of the
> Suncell® at some point. No one doubts that it works but an extended demo
> will be needed… therefore, even if everything seen thus far is little more
> than PR fluff, we could have a worrisome situation in response to a much
> longer demo.
>
> Since Mills is applying higher net power to reactants (even if Holmlid’s
> laser provides more localized power) there is a chance that some portion of
> the energy produced escapes the sun-cell as muons. If Holmlid gets millions
> of muons per watt of coherent light, what will be the corresponding rate be
> from an electric arc? If anything like this scenario turns out to be the
> accurate, then any muons produced will decay at a predictable distance away
> from the reactor, thus they could have been missed by BrLP in testing thus
> far.
>
> The muon is an unstable fermion with a lifetime of 2.2 microseconds, which
> is an eternity compared to most beta decays. Ignoring time dilation, this
> would mean that muons, travelling at light speed, would be dispersing and
> decaying in an imaginary sphere about 600 meters from the reactor. Thus, the
> effect of radioactive decay could be significant at unexpected distance– and
> Mills may never had imagined that this is a problem. Fortunately, humans are
> exposed to a constant flux of muons due to cosmic rays, and the flux is
> well-tolerated.
>
> Nevertheless, this detail is worth noting – and should Mills or his
> associates start to feel a bit ill from the exposure – possibly an
> unseasonal sun tan, then we can identify a culprit.
>
> The effects could be felt more in a remote office - than in the lab … which
> is curious.

RE: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons

[Jones Beene]

Bob,

 

Mills, as we know - avoids deuterium like the plague and does not want to see 
anything nuclear … matter of fact, it would not surprise me if he used 
deuterium-depleted water, and took other extreme steps to completely avoid any 
sign of fusion. For instance, Mills may use silver, instead of zinc, as the 
preferred catalyst - to avoid 65Zn, which would be expected if zinc was used 
(and Zn is preferred otherwise, having a better Rydberg fit at low ionization.)

 

As for Holmlid, since he uses deuterium and his reaction occurs in a small spot 
– which is the focal point of the laser beam, there is not much chance for a 
secondary reaction to provide muon catalyzed fusion, since the muons do not 
form instantaneously. Otherwise neutrons should be seen, as you say. 

 

For Holmlid, the muons are forming following pion decay, by which time they are 
dispersed from the reactor by a significant distance. 

 

What we would like to see (from the theoretical perspective) is the SunCell 
being run on heavy water. 

 

But… catch-22… that could cost Mills billions of dollars – if neutrons were 
observed, thus negating his IP.

 

 

From: Bob Higgins 

 

If large quantities of muons are being produced, would you not expect to see 
the normal branches for muon catalyzed fusion to occur around it?  These would 
be clearly detectable as 2.45 MeV neutrons for D2 gas or high energy 14 MeV 
neutron emission if the muons were to impact on a D-T gas mix.  Note that D-T 
gas has a very high probability of muon catalyzed fusion.  An ampule of D-T gas 
might actually be the quintessential muon detector - look for neutrons coming 
from the muon catalyzed fusion of D-T.

 

Jones Beene wrote:

For those who suspect that the Holmlid effect and the Mills effect are related, 
no matter what the proponents of each may think, here is a further thought from 
the fringe … about one of the possible implications. Holmlid has suggested that 
a very high flux of muons can be produced by a subwatt laser beam.

Mills uses an electric arc and will probably offer a real demo of the Suncell® 
at some point. No one doubts that it works but an extended demo will be needed… 
therefore, even if everything seen thus far is little more than PR fluff, we 
could have a worrisome situation in response to a much longer demo. 

Since Mills is applying higher net power to reactants (even if Holmlid’s laser 
provides more localized power) there is a chance that some portion of the 
energy produced escapes the sun-cell as muons. If Holmlid gets millions of 
muons per watt of coherent light, what will be the corresponding rate be from 
an electric arc? If anything like this scenario turns out to be the accurate, 
then any muons produced will decay at a predictable distance away from the 
reactor, thus they could have been missed by BrLP in testing thus far. 

The muon is an unstable fermion with a lifetime of 2.2 microseconds, which is 
an eternity compared to most beta decays. Ignoring time dilation, this would 
mean that muons, travelling at light speed, would be dispersing and decaying in 
an imaginary sphere about 600 meters from the reactor. Thus, the effect of 
radioactive decay could be significant at unexpected distance– and Mills may 
never had imagined that this is a problem. Fortunately, humans are exposed to a 
constant flux of muons due to cosmic rays, and the flux is well-tolerated.

Nevertheless, this detail is worth noting – and should Mills or his associates 
start to feel a bit ill from the exposure – possibly an unseasonal sun tan, 
then we can identify a culprit. 

The effects could be felt more in a remote office - than in the lab … which is 
curious.

 

Re: [Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons

[Bob Higgins]

If large quantities of muons are being produced, would you not expect to
see the normal branches for muon catalyzed fusion to occur around it?
These would be clearly detectable as 2.45 MeV neutrons for D2 gas or high
energy 14 MeV neutron emission if the muons were to impact on a D-T gas
mix.  Note that D-T gas has a very high probability of muon catalyzed
fusion.  An ampule of D-T gas might actually be the quintessential muon
detector - look for neutrons coming from the muon catalyzed fusion of D-T.

On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 9:23 AM, Jones Beene  wrote:

> For those who suspect that the Holmlid effect and the Mills effect are
> related, no matter what the proponents of each may think, here is a further
> thought from the fringe … about one of the possible implications. Holmlid
> has suggested that a very high flux of muons can be produced by a subwatt
> laser beam.
>
> Mills uses an electric arc and will probably offer a real demo of the S
> uncell® at some point. No one doubts that it works but an extended demo
> will be needed… therefore, even if everything seen thus far is little
> more than PR fluff, we could have a worrisome situation in response to a
> much longer demo.
>
> Since Mills is applying higher net power to reactants (even if Holmlid’s
> laser provides more localized power) there is a chance that some portion of
> the energy produced escapes the sun-cell as muons. If Holmlid gets
> millions of muons per watt of coherent light, what will be the
> corresponding rate be from an electric arc? If anything like this scenario 
> turns
> out to be the accurate, then any muons produced will decay at a
> predictable distance away from the reactor, thus they could have been
> missed by BrLP in testing thus far.
>
> The muon is an unstable fermion with a lifetime of 2.2 microseconds,
> which is an eternity compared to most beta decays. Ignoring time
> dilation, this would mean that muons, travelling at light speed, would be
> dispersing and decaying in an imaginary sphere about 600 meters from the
> reactor. Thus, the effect of radioactive decay could be significant at
> unexpected distance– and Mills may never had imagined that this is a
> problem. Fortunately, humans are exposed to a constant flux of muons due
> to cosmic rays, and the flux is well-tolerated.
>
> Nevertheless, this detail is worth noting – and should Mills or his
> associates start to feel a bit ill from the exposure – possibly an
> unseasonal sun tan, then we can identify a culprit.
>
> The effects could be felt more in a remote office - than in the lab …
> which is curious.
>
>

[Vo]:Holmlid, Mills & muons

[Jones Beene]

For those who suspect that the Holmlid effect and the Mills effect are
related, no matter what the proponents of each may think, here is a further
thought from the fringe . about one of the possible implications. Holmlid
has suggested that a very high flux of muons can be produced by a subwatt
laser beam.

Mills uses an electric arc and will probably offer a real demo of the
SuncellR at some point. No one doubts that it works but an extended demo
will be needed. therefore, even if everything seen thus far is little more
than PR fluff, we could have a worrisome situation in response to a much
longer demo. 

Since Mills is applying higher net power to reactants (even if Holmlid's
laser provides more localized power) there is a chance that some portion of
the energy produced escapes the sun-cell as muons. If Holmlid gets millions
of muons per watt of coherent light, what will be the corresponding rate be
from an electric arc? If anything like this scenario turns out to be the
accurate, then any muons produced will decay at a predictable distance away
from the reactor, thus they could have been missed by BrLP in testing thus
far. 

The muon is an unstable fermion with a lifetime of 2.2 microseconds, which
is an eternity compared to most beta decays. Ignoring time dilation, this
would mean that muons, travelling at light speed, would be dispersing and
decaying in an imaginary sphere about 600 meters from the reactor. Thus, the
effect of radioactive decay could be significant at unexpected distance- and
Mills may never had imagined that this is a problem. Fortunately, humans are
exposed to a constant flux of muons due to cosmic rays, and the flux is
well-tolerated.

Nevertheless, this detail is worth noting - and should Mills or his
associates start to feel a bit ill from the exposure - possibly an
unseasonal sun tan, then we can identify a culprit. 

The effects could be felt more in a remote office - than in the lab . which
is curious.