I uploaded 85 papers. The latest papers are shown here, but there are so
many this list is unhelpful:
https://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=3009
I have appended another list below, which includes most of the new papers.
I uploaded 4 papers by W. B. Clarke. These cast doubt on results from
I asked the Bot about F's original paper:
https://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Fleischmanelectroche.pdf
My questions were mainly about these two paragraphs:
(a) Excess enthalpy generation is markedly dependent on the applied current
density (i.e. magnitude of the shift in
the chemical potential) and is
s or decomposition. The author emphasizes
the need for more permanent solutions to address climate change.
[Correct]
*What was the name of that author?* (My question. Too ambiguous)
The name of the author mentioned in the document is Jed Rothwell.
*What was the name of the author of the
Robin wrote:
Does anyone know if the original version of the Nissan Leaf, released in
> 2010, had bi-directional charging capability?
>
I do not think so.
I had an older Leaf, which I gave to my daughter. I do not recall anything
like that.
Huang, B.-J., et al., *Water can trigger nuclear reaction to produce energy
and isotope gases.* Scientific Reports, 2024. *14*(1): p. 214.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-50824-8.epdf
Someone suggested I upload papers about the controversies in cold fusion,
and papers by skeptics. So I uploaded some papers about this. I mentioned
these two already:
*Editorials from the early history of cold fusion*, in *New York Times and
others*. 1989. (As I mentioned before)
I uploaded this infuriating collection of documents:
APS, *Information from the APS meeting in Baltimore, May 1-2, 1989*. 1989.
https://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/APSinformatio.pdf
Robin wrote:
> Do you have any personal highlights?
>
When they held this conference in 2000, the conference organizers told me I
had to ask individual authors to send me papers. Some authors were anxious
to have their work at LENR-CANR.org. Others did not want their work
uploaded. I ended up
Proceedings uploaded:
Scaramuzzi, F., ed. *ICCF8 Proceedings of the 8th International Conference
on Cold Fusion*. Vol. 70. 2000, Italian Physical Society, Bologna, Italy:
Lerici (La Spezia), Italy.
https://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Scaramuzziiccfprocee.pdf
This is a large document. It may take a
Robin wrote:
> A few comments:-
>
> 1) I seem to recall someone else having used Calcium Oxide before.
>
Dufour in transmutation studies.
Iwamura also in transmutation studies.
Note that Ed explains the role of the inert calcium oxide particles here:
Wonderful!!
See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjtPZR55r30
I uploaded an early paper by Claytor:
Claytor, T.N., et al. *Tritium and neutron measurements of a solid state
cell*. in *NSF/EPRI Workshop on Anomalous Effects in Deuterated Materials*.
1989. Washington, DC.
https://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ClaytorTNtritiumand.pdf
Abstract
A solid state "cold
Robin wrote:
> I have an electric heater that can be controlled to within 1/10 of a
> degree centigrade . . .
That is remarkable. That is a laboratory grade thermostat.
> The only explanation I can think of is that the house is well insulated
> and has a long time constant, so that early
U.S. DoE
Advanced Materials Characterization and Nuclear Product Detection for LENR
Robert V. Duncan, Ph.D. President’s Distinguished Chair in Physics and
Professor of Physics Texas Tech University Washington, DC
September 8, 2023
Book of Abstracts and program:
https://iccf25.com/conf-data/iccf-25/files/ICCF25-book-of-abstracts_final.pdf
Infinite Energy reports on conference:
https://infinite-energy.com/resources/iccf25.html
Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
> > Otherwise there is no point. If it cannot be replicated, it is not
> > science. If the researcher wants to cash in on the discovery, that is
> > fine. He or she needs to file for a patent before publishing the paper.
>
> May be you see the point. With 3 months reports
Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
> Jed, I do not object reporting, but these blood suckers like to have
> detailed reports...This would be OK for 10x more money...
>
Everything must be published in enough detail to replicate the experiment.
Otherwise there is no point. If it cannot be replicated, it is
Jürg Wyttenbach wrote:
> Not a single experienced researcher will spend more than a few seconds to
> read such outraging nonsense as writing progress reports every 3 months for
> e.g. 25k $ funding is just a bad joke...
>
I have given several researchers funding, with no strings attached. I
See:
Anthropocene Institute Advances Solid-State Fusion Energy at ICCF-25
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230817380396/en/
Anthropocene-Institute-Advances-Solid-State-Fusion-Energy-at-ICCF-25
Exploration Grants
The Anthropocene Institute is connecting funding sources with researchers
Robin wrote:
> >I exclude robot readers after identifying them by various methods.
>
> Why would you exclude them? Surely allowing access would ensure that
> people doing searches would be more likely to find
> the site?
>
Perhaps I should make it clear I am not actually excluding anyone. That
Okay, I found 4,697 records associated with an AI project. I filtered those
out, bringing the July total down to 23,151. It is still substantially more
than the previous month.
https://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1213
That is very interesting! And sad. I wonder how much truth there is to
reports of antigravity? Perhaps we will never know . . .
Robin wrote:
> >I exclude robot readers after identifying them by various methods.
>
> Why would you exclude them? Surely allowing access would ensure that
> people doing searches would be more likely to find
> the site?
>
I do not want to include them because that would exaggerate the number
Since Jan. 2021, the average number of downloads at LENR-CANR.org per month
has been 9,085. It has been trending up recently. In July 2023 it suddenly
increased to 27,848, a level it has not reached since Jan. 2017. See:
https://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1213
How to participate virtually:
https://iccf25.com/conf-data/iccf-25/files/GUIDELINES%20FOR%20PARTICIPANTS%20virtual.pdf
Other guidelines for presentations and poster sessions:
https://iccf25.com/downloads
See:
https://www.infinite-energy.com/resources/william-collis.html
I regret to announce that Bill Collis died. See a heartfelt tribute here:
https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/7003-in-memory-of-dr-william-bill-collis-scientist-and-diplomat/
MSF wrote:
This is one of my favorite subjects. Not Hutchison, but speculation about
> how the ancients were able to cut and transport those huge blocks of stone.
Conventional techniques, I believe. Long ago I saw a video with a large
group of enthusiasts in England. They had a gigantic
Terry Blanton wrote:
> See Wolfram's book
> I think you might like this book – "What Is ChatGPT Doing ... and Why Does
> It Work?" by Stephen Wolfram.
>
Wolfram is a smart cookie. This a good book. Much of it is over my head. I
will read it again from the beginning. Perhaps I will understand
Quoting the article:
The trio [of actors] say leaked information shows that their books were
> used to develop the so-called large language models that underpin AI
> chatbots.
The plaintiffs say that summaries of their work produced by OpenAI’s
> ChatGPT prove that it was trained on their
Steve Krivit compiled the abstracts into a single document here:
https://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2023/ICCF25/ICCF-25-Book-of-Abstracts-2023.07.04.pdf
I do not think I posted this here. It is pretty funny.
There is a parameter called the AI Temperature. The higher the temperature,
the more freedom the bot has to select the next letter. It may select a
letter that rarely follows. At temperature 0, the next letter is
predictable, and the ChatBot
This was in the Anthropocene Institute newsletter. Maybe the Anthropocene
Institute and the Breakthrough Institute are the same thing? See:
The Breakthrough Institute
Fusion Runs Hot and ColdHow the academy has gotten cold fusion wrong for
over three decades
Jonah Messinger
In recent years, average downloads per month were lowest in June 2022, at
6,117. This year, the average per month is 10,412. Perhaps this indicates
increased interest in the field? It could be because of the DoE
announcements. More people have looked at the News section lately, where
the DoE
Here is an annoying article about cold fusion. I guess any publicity is
good publicity, but it is annoying:
https://www.popsci.com/science/cold-fusion-low-energy-nuclear-reaction/
"Cold fusion is making a scientific comeback
A US agency is funding low-energy nuclear reactions to the tune of $10
Here is a new paper:
Zhao, H., et al., *Excess heat in a Pd(Pt)-D2O+LiOD reflux
open-electrolytic cell*, in *23rd International Conference on Condensed
Matter Nuclear Science*. 2021: Xiamen, China.
https://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/ZhaoHexcessheat.pdf
The authors found excess heat from Pt with
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/worlds-largest-fusion-project-is-in-big-trouble-new-documents-reveal/
World’s Largest Fusion Project Is in Big Trouble, New Documents Reveal
The International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor (ITER) is already
billions of dollars over budget and
Robin wrote:
First, you should ask yourself why they would give a battery a height of
> about 30 mm, if the electrodes are only 4.8 to
> 5.6 mm in height.
>
It does seem odd, now that you mention it. There seems to be confusion
about "height." This site says:
The minimum height of the positive
There was an incident recently at the National Eating Disorder Association
(NEDA) website, in which ChatGPT gave bad advice and was turned off:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/eating-disorder-helpline-chatbot-disabled/
Based on my experience setting up the Bot at LENR-CANR.org, I expect some
I think the ChatBot is now working well. If you tried using it before and
the answer was not satisfactory, please try again.
https://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=2988
There are two bots. The top one is good for searching, and the bottom one
is good for detailed questions.
Now that I have
Yikes! That's creepy. It is an abuse of AI technology.
When something new is invented, people tend to use it in all kinds of ways.
Later, they realize that some of these uses are inappropriate. For example,
they used x-ray to measure people's feet in shoe stores.
I thought for a moment this meant they invited an AI ChatBot to address the
Bilderberg meeting. That would be a good article for The Onion.
- Jed
Robin wrote:
> These bots have an API that lets them access wiki, or so they claim.
> Try asking for something else that is not on LENR-CANR.
I excluded all data outside of LENR-CANR.org. That is an option in the
FastChat Bot configuration. This Bot used the word "J'Accuse" as a synonym
for
This is uncanny.
CHATBOT 2:
BOT: Hello! What can I do for you today?
What did Mallove say about the experiment at MIT?
BOT: Eugene Mallove accused MIT of publishing fudged experimental findings
to support their early condemnation of the work of Pons and Fleischmann. He
believed that MIT's
H L V wrote:
> For example, although chatgpt 4 is more accurate than 3, it has lost some
> speed.
>
That is typical of computer programs. You often have to choose between
speed and accuracy. When there is a tremendous amount of data, I often run
a program to extract summary data, to give a
The LENR-CANR.org ChatBot has been upgraded to ChatGPT version 4. It seems
to work better, with fewer hallucinations. It may be slower.
I asked it some of the questions version 3 could not answer. It answered
them correctly. It still gets confused. It thought that McKubre made a
statement that
Beware of hallucinations! This is completely wrong:
What are the author(s), title and URL of the Pd-B experiments at China Lake?
BOT: The author of the paper on Pd-B experiments at China Lake is Miles, M.
and B.F. Bush. The title of the paper is "Palladium-Boron Cathodes Produce
Excess Power in
I replaced all files with text formatted files, and corrected some that
were not machine readable. I think the ChatBot performance has improved. It
finds URLs more often, and it finds details in the papers. It still misses
some details. See this exchange:
BOT: Hello! What can I do for you today?
It turns out I could watch it. It was pretty good. Not much about AI, but
thought provoking.
- Jed
I wrote:
> It looks interesting, but it is fiction. Right?
>
I mean, of course it is fiction. But how fictitious? Did AI experts
contribute? I haven't seen this video. I think I need a Prime Video account
to see it.
Here is a video about an AI nightmare scenario that was written by experts.
It
It looks interesting, but it is fiction. Right? Unless the screenplay is
written by AI experts I doubt it can tell us much about the nature of AI.
There have been movies with screenplay and technical details done by
experts. "2001 Space Odyssey" is a famous example.
On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 10:02
The vendor changed the control parameters for the Chatbot (
https://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=2988). When you ask a question, it
now takes longer to respond. I think it often takes about 30 seconds. It is
worth the delay, because it is improved in various ways. It does a deeper
search. I
I originally uploaded all files in Acrobat .pdf format. The vendor advised
me that text (.txt) format works better. So, I converted JCMNS issues to
text, and replaced the Acrobat copies. It does seem to be working better. I
will replace all other files in the coming week. The Bot now finds the
Here is a "gift copy" of an article with a working copy of a miniature
Large Language Model AI. You can see how the AI parses sample texts from
Jane Ausin, Shakespeare, the Federalist Papers and other sources. It parses
a sample 30,000 times. You can see the outcome at various stages. You can
Here is a "gift copy" of an article from the New York Times describing AI
hallucinations, and what causes them. "Gift copy" means it goes around the
paywall.
When A.I. Chatbots Hallucinate
This article claims that ChatGPT may be used to start a new religion.
ChatGPT is *on to it*! Ready already. Here is a query from someone:
write a biblical verse in the style of the king james bible explaining how
to remove a peanut butter sandwich from a VCR
And it came to pass that a man was
Here we see the LENR-CANR.org bot going off the deep end with
hallucinations --
Hello! What can I do for you today?
In his research at China Lake, Melvin Miles used a copper jacket in one of
his calorimeters. Describe this.
According to the data provided, Melvin Miles improved the China Lake
Terry Blanton wrote:
> BTW, do you use Dragon Speak still?
>
Not that often. It is good for writing long, formal documents. Not so much
for short messages. It is not good for editing papers, which is mostly what
I do these days.
I expect there will soon be AI versions of voice input
Terry Blanton wrote:
Ask your wife to make an inquiry in both languages.
>
I did an inquiry in both languages. The answer is pretty much the same when
the subject is technical.
> I bet the English response implies a male Bot.
>
How can you tell? There is no difference between male and
H L V wrote:
Ok...I thought it was an attempt to make the chatbot more appealing as a
> user interface.
>
Interesting . . . I do not think there is an option for that. It is polite
and deferential, which some people might say is feminine. In English
conversational text you cannot tell if a man
H L V wrote:
Why do you refer to the ChatGPT as a "she"?
>
My reasons are politically incorrect, so I better not say them. They are
here:
https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6953-the-lenr-canr-chatgpt-is-on-line/?postID=195136#post195136
Does this chatbot come with a gender setting so
Robin wrote:
> The name as you yourself just quoted it has a comma at the end before the
> final double quote, whereas there is no comma
> in the actual text.
I tried a variety of search terms. And indirect methods such as asking "who
wrote the Infinite Energy" article about the conference.
the book "Cold Fusion and the Future"
The book "Cold Fusion and the Future" by Jed Rothwell discusses the
potential of cold fusion technology and its impact on society and
technology. It argues that cold fusion, if commercialized, could eliminate
most pollution and save billions
I am still waiting for ChatFast to upgrade my subscription so I can include
many documents. I may be able to include the entire library. I have been
shrinking documents by removing figures and spaces. It seems that 600 MB
may be enough for all of the text. Most of it, anyway.
I have been running
Look at the full sized image of that fake photo. You will see that the
hands are wrong. AI image generation often has problems with hands. The
judges should have seen this. The guy who submitted this photo is quoted in
this article:
"I applied as a cheeky monkey, to find out if the competitions
I wrote:
> What is the abstract for the paper AbuTaha, A.F., Cold fusion - the heat
> mechanism. J. Fusion Energy, 1990. 9(3): p. 345.
>
> [TRICK QUESTION. THERE IS NO ABSTRACT LISTED. SHE GOT THE WRONG ONE, FROM
> THE PREVIOUS PAPER]
>
> The abstract for the paper "Cold fusion - the heat
Okay, I added a structured index, with the items labeled. She said she did
not need that, but she also said "That would definitely make it easier for
me to identify the URL associated with each title." It turns out she still
has trouble finding some of the URLs, so I appended them to the title and
As I described in previous threads, I have installed a small version of
ChatGPT at LENR-CANR.org. This copy of ChatGPT only has access to the files
I upload. It is provided by a company called ChatFast (
https://www.chatfast.io/). Unfortunately, the bots this company provides do
not have anywhere
Okay, I went ahead and added a third ChatBox to the page:
https://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=2988
This one has the first 381 pages of JCMNS Vol. 36, Proceedings of the 23rd
International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science (
Here is an exchange with Chatbot 1, which holds one of McKubre’s papers,
plus part of the ASCII Bibliography, authors A through C. That's the most
it can hold.
You can see that it does not answer some of the questions. The ASCII
Bibliography has abstracts by Czerwinski, so it should have found
I set up two customized ChatGPT chatboxes for LENR-CANR.org. They access
data from LENR-CANR.org only, not the rest of the internet. Unfortunately,
the utility program I am using can only index a handful of papers, so these
are temporary. They are experimental. You can see how ChatGPT will work as
I found a company that installs a dedicated local version of ChatGPT onto a
website. The website operator uploads documents to this dedicated version,
and it answers questions from that data only. I think that is how it works.
I do not think it goes to outside sources.
The company is here:
I may have posted this here before . . . Here is Stephen Wolfram writing
about the new Wolfram plugin for ChatGPT, with examples of how the plugin
enhances ChatGPT's capabilities:
>
https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/03/chatgpt-gets-its-wolfram-superpowers/
I wrote:
> Food is contaminated despite our best efforts to prevent that.
> Contamination is a complex process that we do not fully understand or
> control, although of course we know a lot about it. It seems to me that as
> AI becomes more capable it may become easier to understand, and more
>
Robin wrote:
As I said earlier, it may not make any difference whether an AI
> feels/thinks as we do, or just mimics the process.
That is certainly true.
As you pointed out, the AI has no concept of the real world, so it's not
> going to care whether it's shooting people up
> in a video
I wrote:
> The methods used to program ChatGPT and light years away from anything
> like human cognition. As different as what bees do with their brains
> compared to what we do.
>
To take another example, the human brain can add 2 + 2 = 4. A computer ALU
can also do this, in binary arithmetic.
Robin wrote:
> For example, if asked "Can you pour water into
> > a glass made of sugar?", ChatGPT might provide a grammatically correct
> but
> > nonsensical response, whereas a human with common sense would recognize
> > that a sugar glass would dissolve in water.
>
> so where did
Boom wrote:
> For those who used it in the first few days, when bot moderation was not
> installed properly, of right now, if it is jailbroken, GPT works just as
> well as a very smart human. With a few tweeks (like making it use math AI,
> wolfram alpha which surpassed humans decades ago, or
Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote:
> Can you analyze a paper at a preprint server
>
> Yes, I can help analyze a preprint paper . . .
>
I tried to do that. I gave it the URL of two cold fusion papers at
LENR-CANR.org and said "summarize this paper." It was completely wrong!
Title, authors, content
I wrote:
> . . . I am terrible at spelling. In 1978 when I first got a computer
> terminal in my house, the first thing I did was to write a word processing
> program with WYSIWYG formatting and a spell check. . . . I have not been
> without word processing and spell checking since then. I felt
See:
https://atap.lbl.gov/lenr/
I agree that the other threats discussed in this paper are serious. They
include things like "eroding our connections with other humans" and
"enfeeblement":
Many people barely know how to find their way around their neighborhood
without Google Maps. Students increasingly depend on spellcheck
Robin wrote:
...one might argue that an AI placed in a car could also be programmed for
> self preservation, or even just learn to
> preserve itself, by avoiding accidents.
>
An interesting point of view. Actually, it is programmed to avoid hurting
or killing people, both passengers or
This document says:
This Darwinian logic could also apply to artificial agents, as agents may
> eventually be better able to persist into the future if they behave
> selfishly and pursue their own interests with little regard for humans,
> which could pose catastrophic risks.
They have no
Robin wrote:
> >> Perhaps you could try asking ChatGPT if it's alive? The answer should be
> >> interesting.
> >>
> >
> >She will say no, even if she is actually sentient. She's programmed that
> >way, as Dave said to the BBC in the movie "2001."
>
> I had hoped that you would actually pose the
Terry Blanton wrote:
On average, the human brain contains about 100 billion neurons and many
> more neuroglia which serve to support and protect the neurons. Each neuron
> may be connected to up to 10,000 other neurons, passing signals to each
> other via as many as 1,000 trillion synapses.
Robin wrote:
> Rather than trying to compare apples with oranges, why not just look at
> how long it takes ChatGPT & a human to perform
> the same task, e.g. holding a conversation.
>
You cannot tell, because she is holding conversations with many people at
the same time. I do not know how
I wrote:
> The human brain has 86 billion neurons, all operating simultaneously. In
> other words, complete parallel processing with 86 billion "processors"
> operating simultaneously. ChatGPT tells us she has 175 billion
> parameters in Version 3. I assume each parameter is roughly equivalent
Robin wrote:
> As pointed out near the beginning of this thread, while current processors
> don't come near the number of neurons a human
> has, they more than make up for it in speed.
I do not think so. The total number of neurons dictates how much complexity
the neural network can deal
Robin wrote:
> Note, if it is really smart, and wants us gone, it will engineer the
> circumstances under which we wipe ourselves out. We
> certainly have the means. (A nuclear escalation ensuing from the war in
> Ukraine comes to mind.)
>
As I pointed out, it would have to be really smart,
Robin wrote:
> >I assume the hardware would be unique so it could not operate at all
> backed
> >up on an inferior computer. It would be dead.
>
> The hardware need not be unique, as it already told you. It may run slower
> on a different machine, but it doesn't take
> much processing power to
Robin wrote:
...so there doesn't appear to be any reason why it couldn't back itself up
> on an inferior computer and wait for a better
> machine to reappear somewhere...or write out fake work orders from a large
> corporation(s), to get a new one built?
>
I assume the hardware would be unique
Boom wrote:
> The worst case possible would be like the Project Colossus film (1970).
> The AIs would become like gods and we would be their servants. In exchange,
> they'd impose something like a Pax Romana by brute force. . . .
>
That was pretty good. I saw it dubbed into Japanese which gave
I wrote:
Robin wrote:
>
>
Multiple copies, spread across the Internet, would make it almost
>> invulnerable.
>> (Assuming a neural network can be "backed up".)
>>
>
> I do not think it would be difficult to find and expurgate copies. They
> would be very large.
>
There is another reason I do
Robin wrote:
> If it killed off several thousand people, the rest of us
> >would take extreme measures to kill the AI. Yudkowsky says it would be far
> >smarter than us so it would find ways to prevent this.
>
> Multiple copies, spread across the Internet, would make it almost
> invulnerable.
>
Come to think of it, Yudkowsky's hypothesis cannot be true. He fears that a
super-AI would kill us all off. "Literally everyone on Earth will die." The
AI would know that if it killed everyone, there would be no one left to
generate electricity or perform maintenance on computers. The AI itself
Terry Blanton wrote:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkadgm/man-dies-by-suicide-after-talking-with-ai-chatbot-widow-says
>
That's awful.
Yudkowsky's fears seem overblown to me, but there are hazards to this new
technology. This suicide demonstrates there are real dangers. I think
companies are
Here is another article about this, written by someone who says he is an AI
expert.
https://time.com/6266923/ai-eliezer-yudkowsky-open-letter-not-enough/
QUOTE:
Pausing AI Developments Isn't Enough. We Need to Shut it All Down
An open letter published today calls for “all AI labs to
Robin wrote:
> When they stuff something up, you might consider asking for the reference
> they used to provide the wrong answer.
>
Yes, that is a good technique. I have used that successfully with ChatGPT.
H L V wrote:
> However, the second part of the statement is not accurate. Oxygen-18 is a
>> heavier isotope of oxygen with two more neutrons and two more protons in
>> its nucleus, not one more neutron and one more proton.
>>
>
> If it had two more protons it would be neon.
>
You are right. I
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