Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-12 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Gesendet: 22:01 Dienstag, 11.September 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote:   This is a completely different institute, and one probaly has to know the intricacies of the Max-Planck organization

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Yes you did say. You said that hot fusion researchers are trying to 'suppress' it and indeed hot fusion research is operating with extremely big money. As noted that was Abd, not me. However, it is true that the plasma fusion scientists played a

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-11 Thread James Bowery
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Yes you did say. You said that hot fusion researchers are trying to 'suppress' it and indeed hot fusion research is operating with extremely big money. ... I suppose

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-11 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 16:12 Dienstag, 11.September 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Yes you did say

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote: not over here (Germany). As far as i know, the MPP, which is the biggest May-Planck-Institute, tried to replicate F/P and failed. so the issue was settled. I do not know about this test, but it would be ridiculous to reject cold fusion based

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-11 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 20:23 Dienstag, 11.September 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote:   not over here

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com wrote: This is a completely different institute, and one probaly has to know the intricacies of the Max-Planck organization. The same or different, you would think that the Director's opinions might have weight when it comes to accepting or rejecting

[Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Besides that your idea about the funding cuts is silly conspiracy theory and if you are throwing such lazy arguments, it will not help the field. It irks me when people write this! Why does this nonsense about a conspiracy so often come up? Who

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-10 Thread James Bowery
Unfortunately, Jed, the accusers of conspiracy theorizing may have a legal leg to stand on given this plain language instruction to the jurors in California civil cases regarding

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, Jed, the accusers of conspiracy theorizing may have a legal leg to stand on given this plain language instruction to the jurors in California civil cases regarding

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Miles was a Fellow of the Institute at China Lake. A Fellow means someone who can study any subject he wants, like a tenured professor. Speaking of tenured professors, see:

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: ... I think that I know why Jouni Valkonen accused me of being a conspiracy theorist. He did that to make me look silly or gullible. People often accuse me of being a conspiracy theorist because in the minds of most people, a conspiracy theorist is a paranoid person who wears a

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-10 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Jed, many people and thousands of scientist have looked the data and they are concluded that scientific data is nowhere near sufficient. It is in best case speculative, suggestive and inconclusive. There is no 'big money suppression'. That kind of idea is silly and non-informative and it is an

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Jed, many people and thousands of scientist have looked the data and they are concluded that scientific data is nowhere near sufficient. Thousands of scientists download papers from my website every week. I hear from them often. Not one of them has

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-10 Thread Jouni Valkonen
On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:56 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: There is no 'big money suppression'. Did I say anything about big money? Yes you did say. You said that hot fusion researchers are trying to 'suppress' it and indeed hot

Re: [Vo]:Cold fusion has been suppressed -- no evidence for a conspiracy

2012-09-10 Thread Jouni Valkonen
There is no 'big money suppression'. Did I say anything about big money? Yes you did say. Actually perhaps it was Abd who said: »But the physics community, dependent upon large subsidies for hot fusion research, did not operate, here, by the normal standards of science. They, instead,