Their natural behavior is for me the best evidence.
Nelson during his own test concluded the same.
of course it is not enough for nay-believers who will only suicide when
there is no shadow, and even...
for hard skeptic, they should be very much interest, but keep some romm for
doubt, because of
On 07/24/2013 06:36 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I think that a demonstration of this nature is valuable. I am pleased
they did it. But it is no substitute for the kind of test Levi et al.
did of Rossi's device. I mean Levi et al. used their own instruments;
they went back three times and improved
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
It is a better test than the one that Levi and company performed. This
is a complete and total, independent, replication of Rossi's method;
even if they don't plan to write it up.
I did not see this test, but I gather the instruments were supplied by
I think 28 years is too slow...we all know the various reasons why. I like
the spirit of DGT's team staying up 24 hours making it happen, that is the
real human spirit at work.
Stewart
On Thursday, July 25, 2013, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
comments on Defkalion reactor demo in Milan
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
It is a better test than the one that Levi and company performed. This
is a complete and total, independent, replication of Rossi's method;
even if they don't plan to write it up.
I did not see this test, but I
On 07/25/2013 09:55 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com mailto:cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
It is a better test than the one that Levi and company performed. This
is a complete and total, independent, replication of Rossi's method;
even if they don't plan
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
No, what I mean is: Defkalion IS the group that replicated Rossi's work,
from the ground up.
Ah, I see.
That is unclear. Rossi says they had no knowledge of his work so they could
not have replicated. If that is true, they found an independent method of
On 07/25/2013 10:47 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I can't judge whether this is a replication because I do not know how
either Rossi or Defkalion does what they do. These are trade secrets.
You're right, we can't know; but we do know that Rossi and Defkalion
were working together two years ago. We
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
The fact that they were able to
reproduce the reaction, and do it better than Rossi could do it two
years ago, tells us that they discovered a material that works, along
with Rossi, and Mills, and perhaps Miley and others. It is a replication
in a
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
I am glad it was recorded. I hope it remains on file.
Brian of SQUID posted the juicy bits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHEtnTO3h6s
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
No, what I mean is: Defkalion IS the group that replicated Rossi's work,
from the ground up.
Ah, I see.
That is unclear. Rossi says they had no knowledge of his work so they
On 07/25/2013 02:46 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
I am glad it was recorded. I hope it remains on file.
Brian of SQUID posted the juicy bits:
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
We had the fortune to be in direct Skype chat contact with Mats Lewin
during the experiment and it was definitely live, we were able to ask Mats
to pose questions . . .
I heard about that after it happened. The MFMP people have a good
impression.
I was
Why do you claim that Defkalion did not have extensive 3rd party tests?
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
From: Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:50:50 PM
Why do you claim that Defkalion did not have extensive 3rd party tests?
They announced them (back when they had a blog), and they released one
inconclusive report (with redacted names),
ISTR with some
They announced them (back when they had a blog), and they released
one inconclusive report (with redacted names),
ISTR with some gummint-lab related people acting on their own behalf.
Listed here : October 22, 2012 :
You underestimate them! ;)
2013/7/24 Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
They announced them (back when they had a blog), and they released
one inconclusive report (with redacted names),
ISTR with some gummint-lab related people acting on their own behalf.
Listed here : October 22, 2012 :
So you have inside information that is not an estimate but a measurement?
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
You underestimate them! ;)
2013/7/24 Alan Fletcher a...@well.com
They announced them (back when they had a blog), and they released
one
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Why do you claim that Defkalion did not have extensive 3rd party tests?
Perhaps they have. I do not have any information on this, or any test
results. Perhaps they have had tests under NDAs.
- Jed
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:11 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps they have. I do not have any information on this, or any test
results. Perhaps they have had tests under NDAs.
I recall claims to the effect that they have some big partnerships underway
or under the works.
Alan Fletcher quoted MFMP:
We had the fortune to be in direct Skype chat contact with Mats Lewin
during the experiment and it was definitely live, we were able to ask Mats
to pose questions, challenges and do additional testing during the run and
saw near real time responses including watching
'also to cut cables'
Cool.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Akira Shirakawa
shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote:
Here on his blog:
http://matslew.wordpress.com/**2013/07/24/comments-on-**
From: blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:37:32 PM
' also to cut cables'
Cool.
Offer made, but not accepted. (I made the suggestion in the comments). So
Mary's still got something to hang on to.
He says he did check the flow rate, and for DC ... plus the
If all the water was vaporized, the output thermal power would have been
above 27 kW.
Sounds very thrilling!
I think the real mystery now is why given all the scientists all over the
world working on this they can't even get one measly consistent
reproducible experiment going with a reasonable
blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the real mystery now is why given all the scientists all over the
world working on this they can't even get one measly consistent
reproducible experiment going with a reasonable COP.
This is not even slightly mysterious. If you had any
Let me add:
. . . going with a reasonable COP.
This is pure bullshit. Many experiments have infinite COPs, with no input
power. Yet the skeptics and Spinnaker ignore there results and natter on
about low COPs.
Once the reaction can be controlled, ramping it up or improving the COP
will minor
On 2013-07-24 02:49, blaze spinnaker wrote:
If all the water was vaporized, the output thermal power would have
been above 27 kW.
Sounds very thrilling!
They've also been conservative about heat losses through the insulating
reactor enclosure, not accounted for. During the inactive Argon run
You're purposely misunderstanding what I'm saying and just talking past me
because you're overly emotional about all this.I know you think LENR is
your personal crusade, but don't drag me into that.
The fact is, two completely separate teams have now seemingly achieved
these impressive(even
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