Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-12 Thread Alain Sepeda
@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, May 11, 2012 1:24 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies I do see the two plugs at opposite ends of the device but it is not obvious why this configuration would generate a large amount turbulence. The fact that they are using

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-12 Thread James Bowery
What is Stremmenos up to nowadays? On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: Hello group, Have a look at this new pdf from DGT, dated May 2012:

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Jojo Jaro
- Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies I do see the two plugs at opposite ends of the device but it is not obvious why

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-05-10 20:17, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, DGT also updated their Job Positions page here: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/jobs Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Andre Blum
Pages 5 and 7: Full ashtrays close to the H2 charge circuit.

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2012-05-11 Thread David Roberson
...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 2:57 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies ... I am unfamiliar with the Atomic Battery calculations you are alluding to. Can you please elaborate? Jojo

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2012-05-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl wrote: Pages 5 and 7: Full ashtrays close to the H2 charge circuit. Conclusion: These photographs really were taken in Europe. Not in the U.S. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
the concentration of energy in active surface regions of the devices. Dave -Original Message- From: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 2:57 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies ... I am

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
, 2012 2:57 am  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies  ...  I am unfamiliar with the Atomic Battery calculations you are alluding to.  Can you please elaborate?  Jojo  

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
http://rulev-igor.narod.ru/theme_142.html 11.05.2012, 22:13, Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl: Pages 5 and 7: Full ashtrays close to the H2 charge circuit.

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
http://rulev-igor.narod.ru/theme_142.html 11.05.2012, 21:39, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com: On 2012-05-10 20:17, Akira Shirakawa wrote:  Hello group, DGT also updated their Job Positions page here: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/jobs Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
energy gain? Dave -Original Message- From: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May 10, 2012 11:31 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Another thing, notice on page 24, DGT's reactor has 2 spark

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2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
http://rulev-igor.narod.ru/theme_142.html 11.05.2012, 21:39, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com: Spark plugs make for easily removable/modifiable, cheap and easy high voltage, high current and high temperature electrical feed-throughs into pressure or vacuum vessels.  I don't think

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
http://rulev-igor.narod.ru/theme_142.html 11.05.2012, 21:39, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com: At 07:15 PM 5/10/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18. Page 18 has a spark plug on the

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Рулев Игорь
http://rulev-igor.narod.ru/theme_142.html 11.05.2012, 21:39, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com: At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18. Page 18 has a spark plug on the desk. Interesting... Maybe they preload hydrogen,  let

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread David Roberson
vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 2:57 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Having 2 spark plugs on both ends, and firing them alternately in groups will cause the hot zone to alternate between the 2 ends. This to me would push the hydrogen

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Robert Lynn
Noticed that too. Very heavy on marketing, very light on development which considering how big a deal the first successful commercial LENR development would is as a technology would be very short sighted. Being charitable maybe they already have a large technical staff, or maybe they plan on

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:56 AM 5/11/2012, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: 3 Mechanical engineers, 2 Chemical engineers and 1 electrical 26 other (sales, overhead) Quite a different ratio from the typical Silicon Valley start-up And no phycisist, no word about radiation, nuclear physics, analysis techniques that could

RE: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:21 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies At 11:56 AM 5/11/2012, Bastiaan Bergman wrote: 3 Mechanical engineers, 2 Chemical engineers and 1 electrical 26 other (sales, overhead) Quite a different ratio from

RE: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
, manufacturing, customer service, etc. resources. -mark -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:48 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Would you guys relax

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Axil Axil
@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, May 11, 2012 1:24 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies I do see the two plugs at opposite ends of the device but it is not obvious why this configuration would generate a large amount turbulence. The fact that they are using two

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-11 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: Being charitable maybe they already have a large technical staff, or maybe they plan on outsourcing a lot of engineering development (though not from looks of planning to build factory). It does make me a

[Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, Have a look at this new pdf from DGT, dated May 2012: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/2012-05_StatusPicturesFinal.pdf Cheers, S.A.

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2012-05-10 Thread Daniel Rocha
AMAZING :D 2012/5/10 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com Hello group, Have a look at this new pdf from DGT, dated May 2012: http://www.defkalion-energy.**com/files/2012-05_**StatusPicturesFinal.pdfhttp://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/2012-05_StatusPicturesFinal.pdf Cheers,

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
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Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread Robert Lynn
Interesting, P21, 22 are key page for me. But having looked at it for a few minutes it doesn't appear that they are getting particularly good results (though admittedly it is hard to figure what we are looking at and who knows if these are their best results). P21 Power output seems to be

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote: Why oh why can't they just release some data rather than hinting at it with a photo of the output results? Amen. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread Terry Blanton
If you look at the metadata, the piccys are called Melich Pictures, presumably taken by Mitchell Melich. T

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2012-05-10 Thread Terry Blanton
Specifically Melich pics #.jpg. On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: If you look at the metadata, the piccys are called Melich Pictures, presumably taken by Mitchell Melich. T

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread John Mee
That would be Mitchell's son Michael. New Energy Times - Issue #36:Cold Fusion Versus LENR: Competing Ideologies John On May 10, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: If you look at the metadata, the piccys are called Melich Pictures, presumably taken by Mitchell Melich. T

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread David Roberson
10, 2012 2:17 pm Subject: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Hello group, Have a look at this new pdf from DGT, dated May 2012: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/2012-05_StatusPicturesFinal.pdf Cheers, .A.

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May 10, 2012 2:17 pm Subject: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Hello group, Have a look at this new pdf from DGT, dated May 2012: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/2012-05_StatusPicturesFinal.pdf Cheers

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread ecat builder
Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18. Page 18 has a spark plug on the desk. Interesting... Seems like an easy way to make it go.. (at least easier than a microwave or other ideas out there..) Anyone know what that blue and orange device is on page 14? I was trying

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18. Page 18 has a spark plug on the desk. Interesting... Maybe they preload hydrogen, let in some oxygen and ignite it. Gives a very sharp pressure/temperature pulse.

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread David Roberson
It is a spark plug. This has interesting implications. I wonder if it requires high octane to operate? Dave -Original Message- From: ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May 10, 2012 7:42 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:15 PM 5/10/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18. Page 18 has a spark plug on the desk. Interesting... Maybe they preload hydrogen, let in some oxygen and ignite it. Gives a very

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread David Roberson
Message- From: Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May 10, 2012 8:15 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18

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2012-05-10 Thread Robert Lynn
Spark plugs make for easily removable/modifiable, cheap and easy high voltage, high current and high temperature electrical feed-throughs into pressure or vacuum vessels. I don't think you can read to much into their use. At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: Wow. That is a spark plug on

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread noone noone
Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies At 07:15 PM 5/10/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 04:42 PM 5/10/2012, ecat builder wrote: Wow. That is a spark plug on that reactor! See Pages 13, 14, 16, 18. Page 18 has a spark plug on the desk. Interesting... Maybe they preload hydrogen,  let

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread Jojo Jaro
manner. Jojo - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies This technique looks significantly different from anything that Rossi has

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread noone noone
:49 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies I don't think they promised what you claim.  Results were always subject to publication by the testers not Defkalion. Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2012, at 8:34 PM, noone noone thesteornpa...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread David Roberson
spark reactor; albeit used in a slightly different manner. Jojo - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies This technique looks significantly

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2012-05-10 Thread Jojo Jaro
the secret ingredient is quite compelling. Jojo - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Jojo, I do not recall any evidence of a spark

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread Jojo Jaro
used a different approach in stimulating turbulence. Jojo - Original Message - From: Jojo Jaro To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Rossi has not mentioned anything about

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2012-05-10 Thread noone noone
ingredient.  Axil's speculation about Cesium being the secret ingredient is quite compelling.   Jojo   - Original Message - From: David Roberson To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Jojo, I

Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies

2012-05-10 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, May 10, 2012 11:31 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Progress Photographs pdf from Defkalion Green Technologies Another thing, notice on page 24, DGT's reactor has 2 spark plugs mounted co-axially on both ends