Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread ny . min
Fang: It should be Yes, yes Axil. Before you tickle Axil: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg70016.html check out his post history. Axil is THE MAN. But do not feel embarrassed because vortex contributers frequently show excessive verbiage usually associated with wanna-be

RE: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread Jones Beene
Here on Vortex we have been calling this M.O. a Bosenova for at least two and a half years. http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg37502.html .looks like the JILA team does not know how to do a google search.. From: ChemE Stewart Bosenovacat... Since the

RE: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread Jones Beene
Let me clarify. We did not invent the term bosenova and neither did NIST or JILA - but we borrowed it for the purpose of showing energy gain via a quasi-bosons modality in condensed matter at ambient and higher temperature. The original usage at NIST was not for energy gain at all - and

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/bosenova.cfm Vid on the sidebar. T

RE: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread Jones Beene
The biggest mystery is not the explosion, per se, but the disappearance (apparent loss) of a fraction of the bosons. The authors make no firm case that matter has vanished, and even if it has, its energy content should be much higher than the bosenova event itself. But as we formerly mentioned

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread ChemE Stewart
Yeah nice animations. To me it explains the higher reactivity of packing superatoms like Rydberg matter into voids that then behave like a Bose Einstein Condensate only at higher temperatures to create the amplified reactions seen in LENR+. My first swag at a calculation on my blog show that

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: This hypothesis of the lost bosons Sounds like the latest Spielberg production. T

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-27 Thread ChemE Stewart
Terry, It should. Steven Spielberg produced GREMLINS (I could not resist that) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlins See, everything in the universe is making more sense now... Also, as I state in prediction #22 on my blog, the effect of this reaction creating bosanovas and lost Bosons at

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Axil Axil
Gold can come in many colors. Since ancient times, glass artists and alchemists alike have known how to grind the metal into fine particles that would take on hues such as red or mauve. Carbon nanotubes are the same, different sizes shade water in different colors. At scales even smaller,

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread ChemE Stewart
Hey, if you can build superatoms why not make the collapse and explode, triggering secondary fusion and fission reactions. I'm just say'n... *Form Of Matter Shows Ability To Collapse Explode* Led by CU-Boulder Distinguished Physics Professor Carl Wieman and NIST Senior Scientist Eric Cornell,

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Fang Sen
:31 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Superatoms Gold can come in many colors. Since ancient times, glass artists and alchemists alike have known how to grind the metal into fine particles that would take on hues such as red or mauve. Carbon nanotubes are the same, different sizes shade

RE: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Jones Beene
Before getting too worked up over the superatom, remember that it may be a good metaphor for energy gain in condensed matter systems – but the superatom simply cannot be involved in the Rohner scam. BTW - even Stirling Allan is covering his backside on this scam and apparently now believes

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
- Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 10:07 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Superatoms BTW - even Stirling Allan is covering his backside on this scam and apparently now believes that the pop effect is due to strong eddy

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread ChemE Stewart
Jones, I like your description. I liken it to a hot condensate under extreme pressure and temperature within a void) If you relieve pressure quickly (structural failure of the lattice containing it) it might flash matter to achieve a new equilibrium. Just food for thought. On Sunday, August

RE: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Jones Beene
Yes, Stewart – good point - and it does not have to be complete structural failure of the cavity. A former contributor here, Michel Julian, notoriously described this mechanism “the sphincter effect” … which is decidedly not food for thought. Whatever happened to Michel anyway? When a

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Axil Axil
*…it may be a good metaphor for energy gain in condensed matter systems – but the superatom simply cannot be involved in the Rohner scam.* It is possible that the papp engine can work and also be used in SCAMs by both papp and J. Rohner. It would be a crime against humanity to through the baby

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Jojo Jaro
, 2012 11:40 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Superatoms Yes, Stewart - good point - and it does not have to be complete structural failure of the cavity. A former contributor here, Michel Julian, notoriously described this mechanism the sphincter effect . which is decidedly not food for thought

RE: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread Jones Beene
freely recombine outside with net gain? Would this work? Jojo - Original Message - From: Jones Beene mailto:jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:40 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Superatoms Yes, Stewart – good point - and it does

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-26 Thread ChemE Stewart
The experiments led by Randall Hulet at Rice University from 1995 through 2000 showed that lithium condensates with attractive interactions could stably exist, but only up to a certain critical atom number. Beyond this critical number, the attraction overwhelmed the zero-point energy of the

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-25 Thread Jojo Jaro
Has your opinion changed again? First, there's Cesium thermionic catalysts, then Dipole structures in 2D materials like Rydberg matter; then Quantum Charge Accumulation in 1D materials, then charge screening in 1D nanotubes, then Field emissions on SWNT rugs. then Papper Noble pixie dust, then

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-25 Thread Axil Axil
Ed Storms said in “An Approach to Explaining Cold Fusion:” *Many explanations have been proposed that are based on imagined ways energy could accumulate in sufficient amount in the chemical lattice to overcome the Coulomb barrier, either directly or as result of neutron formation. These

Re: [Vo]:Superatoms

2012-08-25 Thread Jojo Jaro
trying to solve this LENR enigma. - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Superatoms Ed Storms said in “An Approach to Explaining Cold Fusion:” Many explanations have been proposed