If Structural failure is what you want to achieve, that can be done rather 
easily with my idea of carbon nanohorm mats.  All you have to do is pump a 
larger amount of electrical spark energy and that would burn up and totally 
blow up the CNT.

Would that provide the dynamic casimer effect.  The H2 is dissociated at a 
discount inside a casimer cavity, and then the cavity explodes and opens up and 
now H+ ions can freely recombine outside with net gain?  

Would this work?


Jojo


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jones Beene 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:40 PM
  Subject: RE: [Vo]:Superatoms


  Yes, Stewart - good point - and it does not have to be complete structural 
failure of the cavity. 

   

  A former contributor here, Michel Julian, notoriously described this 
mechanism "the sphincter effect" . which is decidedly not food for thought. 
Whatever happened to Michel anyway?

   

  When a regular and insightful poster here drops out of view, one often 
wonders if they have caught a glimpse of the "grail" and are not ready to share 
it yet.

   

  Anyway - two protons in a Casimir cavity can get pumped up in some 
not-exactly nuclear fashion (time distortion, ZPE, or superatom repulsion, or 
whatever) and then when pushed through a pore wall, there will be a greatly 
enhanced acceleration gradient which is thermalized as the OU heat.

   

  Elegant . err . if we drop Michel's descriptive terminology J

   

   

  From: ChemE Stewart 

   

  Jones,

   

  I like your description.  I liken it to a "hot condensate" under extreme 
pressure and temperature within a void) If you relieve pressure quickly 
(structural failure of the lattice containing it) it might "flash" matter to 
achieve a new equilibrium.  Just food for thought.

  On Sunday, August 26, 2012, Jones Beene wrote:

  Before getting too worked up over the superatom, remember that it may be a 
good metaphor for energy gain in condensed matter systems - but the superatom 
simply cannot be involved in the Rohner scam. 

   

  BTW - even Stirling Allan is covering his backside on this scam and 
apparently now believes that the "pop" effect is due to strong eddy repulsion 
in a hidden aluminum ring. The plastic piston does not work without the ring, 
and you get the same pop without or without the special gas. Clever 
showmanship, but not gainful.

   

  Anyway - moving on to real physical anomalies - in order to create the 
required BEC phenomenon, these researchers cooled atoms to what is essentially 
absolute zero, and saw the lowest temperature ever achieved.

   

  If they could have done it at higher temperature, they would have. 

   

  It is also worth noting, in looking for correlates in the real world of 
energy systems, that although each hydrogen atom has spin ½, when they are a 
bound-pair in a Casimir cavity, they can act as a composite boson. Other 
factors in quantum magnetic alignment would indicate that a bound pair of 
protons is much easier to take to a "bosenova" state. IIRC, we on vortex coined 
that neologism long before these guys. Check the archives.

   

  Having said that - it is worth mentioning again in this context - the concept 
of "comperature" (introduced by F. Grimer). Comperature is a single variable 
which is an amalgam of pressure and temperature at the atomic level. These two 
properties should not be separated in the practical sense, as Boyle observed 
many years ago - and perhaps they cannot be truly separated at all.

   

  Hydrogen, which has been captured in the Casimir pores of a ferromagnetic 
metal at ambient - can experience the equivalent of absolute zero by having 
high effective over-voltage which is the same as extreme compression. At a 
loading of 1:1 in a metal matrix, the effective pressure is well over 10,000 
bar, and the comperature would have an effective temperature equivalent to near 
absolute zero, even at ambient 'normal' temperature. It is not known how high 
the normal temperature can go to maintain Bose statistics in the bound and 
aligned pair.

   

  Jones

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