RE: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
The following is all speculation, but I think it's pretty clear what when down. Due to Stremmenos' connections to the Greek govt, DGT obtained their funding from the govt -- Better to make deal with most desperate partner so one doesn't have to give up much ownership - it's all about

RE: [Vo]:z-pinch compression

2012-07-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
ChemE wrote: Is a hydrogen pinch equivalent to a bubble collapse in the Leclair cavitation fusion? Two glasses of wine led me to that conclusion. That first line sounds like what would happen to you and your lady in a hot tub after those two glasses of wine! LoL -Mark Iverson From:

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
Your message remind me that serie of article. It is more focussed on EU, and for now, sadly, they apocalyptic prediction have been more or less confirmed (with some delay... politicians seems good in delaying) I let you read that

Re: [Vo]:z-pinch compression

2012-07-19 Thread Chemical Engineer
Bubbles feel the heat Mar 3, 2005 Physicists have seen a region of plasma in a single-bubble sonoluminescence experiment for the first time. They have also found that the temperature inside the bubble can reach up to 20,000 K (D Flannigan and K Suslick 2005 * Nature* *434*52). 20,000 K seems

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: Your message remind me that serie of article. It is more focussed on EU, and for now, sadly, they apocalyptic prediction have been more or less confirmed . . . That is silly. The U.S. has been through much worse crises than it presently faces, in

Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-07-18 23:01, Andre Blum wrote: according to http://lenrnews.eu/?p=113, DGTG is considering to leave Greece. Source is unclear and we are used to better English from Xanthoulis. Maybe this is a translation by someone from a Greek letter. By the way, come to think about it, what

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
possible, but current problems seems not to be economic, but of structural political stability (bipartisan system)... anyway problems create the organ. With Eurozone situation seemed locked between facts and rigidity; anyway with crisis getting more and more real and ridiculous, everybody starts

Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
the problem seems to be that client don't trust a greek company, so they don't pay, yet. Don't forget that they talk about Escrow account. maybe also the payment is spread in time. for now maybe they only have debt and technology. another reason is that they might try to make pressure about tax

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com wrote: possible, but current problems seems not to be economic, but of structural political stability (bipartisan system)... True. But these problems are nothing compared to what they were from 1860 to 1865, when we killed 650,000 people in the Civil War.

Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread ecat builder
If there are hundreds of investors, there should be hundreds of investigators doing due diligence research on the technology. Due diligence would include talking to experts in the field. Most agents would be willing to share news of the deal in return for quality information from the expert. Q:

RE: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Jed: I agree that 'apocalyptic' is a bit too strong for the U.S. situation, however, one thing that really ticks me off is the way govt 'revises' stats so things don't seem so bad. For instance, the 'official' Unemployment number does not reflect people whose unemployment compensation has run

Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-07-19 17:11, Alain Sepeda wrote: the problem seems to be that client don't trust a greek company, so they don't pay, yet. Don't forget that they talk about Escrow account. maybe also the payment is spread in time. for now maybe they only have debt and technology. another reason is that

RE: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
The speculation is pretty reasonable. While I prefer to leave all the cards on the table until we know more, I'll say that the behavior of Rossi and DGT has been consistent with a hypothesis that Rossi did see some kind of major heat effect, and maybe even had some cells -- or a single cell

Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
the two claimed change in the test are the following : - first they did full calorimetry, while they initially wanted just rough test to convince skeptics... - second they decided to make analysis of burned reactants What seems evident is that the testers take the control of the situation, which

[Vo]:New type of chemical bond may form in extreme magnetic fields of stars

2012-07-19 Thread Daniel Rocha
Interesting! Might be useful for CF, who knows: http://arstechnica.com/science/2012/07/new-type-of-chemical-bond-may-form-in-extreme-magnetic-fields-of-stars -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Do people here know that Pons and Fleischmann were seeing 100% of their cells showing excess heat at the time that they announced? I do not recall that every sample worked. Most of them did. It was no mystery why. This was Pd developed by

[Vo]:Stefano Concezzi (NI)'s presentation from July 2nd LENR meeting in Rome, now available

2012-07-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, The full .pdf file of National Instrument's science director Stefano Concezzi's presentation shown during the July 2nd LENR meeting at Montecitorio palace in Rome has been made available for downloading by 22passi through this link:

Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread Alain Sepeda
seems rational. Rossi have a big history of hiding problems, and anticipating success. DGT seems more rational, but you can have various opinions. mine is optimistic. I interpret the silence after the tests as new tests and as stability problems that push them, rationally to stop claiming much.

[Vo]:Allan Widom's presentation from July 18 Rome LENR seminar

2012-07-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, You might have read something recently about a seminar on LENR by Allan Widom himself to be held in Rome [1]. Today, a short report in Italian on what was discussed there yesterday was posted on 22passi blog [2] (Warning, there are several informal references to recent happenings

RE: [Vo]:Stefano Concezzi (NI)'s presentation from July 2nd LENR meeting in Rome, now available

2012-07-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Akira, I think you should be opening a website called ColdFusionNews! :-) You seem to be on top of it! Thanks, -Mark -Original Message- From: Akira Shirakawa [mailto:shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 11:37 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Stefano Concezzi

Re: [Vo]:Stefano Concezzi (NI)'s presentation from July 2nd LENR meeting in Rome, now available

2012-07-19 Thread Daniel Rocha
There is very important news here: NI is indeed taking LENR seriously. Not rumors anymore. 2012/7/19 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com No real new information included within, but it might still be useful or otherwise interesting in other ways. Enjoy, S.A. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ

Re: [Vo]:Stefano Concezzi (NI)'s presentation from July 2nd LENR meeting in Rome, now available

2012-07-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: There is very important news here: NI is indeed taking LENR seriously. Not rumors anymore. A nice set of slides, too. Maybe I should ask for a copy for LENR-CANR.org. By the way, in the slide titled Our View Of The Computational Map I had to look up

Re: [Vo]:Stefano Concezzi (NI)'s presentation from July 2nd LENR meeting in Rome, now available

2012-07-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure what RT-GPU means. Ray Trace? Yep! T

[Vo]:Article about Yoshitaka Fujii fraud

2012-07-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
This is pretty good: http://arstechnica.com/science/2012/07/epic-fraud-how-to-succeed-in-science-without-doing-any/ I do not know why Fujii did this, but from this article I suppose he did it for the money. That is, for the salary and grant money. It seems he was employed by two institutions at

[Vo]:Are We Being Evicted?

2012-07-19 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/1394-ufo-battle-video-san-diego-aliens.html Grimsley believes that alien or human-like beings may very well be getting ready to take control or evict us from plant Earth , and has made it his mission to show people what is happening in earth space all the time.

Re: [Vo]:Are We Being Evicted?

2012-07-19 Thread Terry Blanton
And in the Southern Hemisphere, too: http://inexplicata.blogspot.ca/2012/07/argentina-mysterious-events-in-western.html

Re: [Vo]:Stefano Concezzi (NI)'s presentation from July 2nd LENR meeting in Rome, now available

2012-07-19 Thread Axil Axil
The Graphical processing unit is well suited in solving quantum mechanical equations because of the simplicity of it architecture. http://quantumdynamics.wordpress.com/category/graphics-processing-units-gpu/ I start my series on the physics of GPU programming by a relatively simple example,

Re: [Vo]:Stefano Concezzi (NI)'s presentation from July 2nd LENR meeting in Rome, now available

2012-07-19 Thread Axil Axil
Ni is developing a custom computer platform based on GPU processors and an associated library that will be capable of modeling LENR based quantum mechanical processes with a bent toward Bose Einstein Condensate theory. This math is very hard to solve and needs extreme processing power and speed.

[Vo]:E*CAT from Australia, etc.

2012-07-19 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
http://www.e-cataustralia.com/ http://www.freeenergysystems.com/Andrea_Rossi_Discusses_The_E-Cat_Part_1/ http://pesn.com/2012/07/19/9602138_LENR-to-Market_Weekly_July19/

Re: [Vo]:Stefano Concezzi (NI)'s presentation from July 2nd LENR meeting in Rome, now available

2012-07-19 Thread Axil Axil
ELTB results means *Equivalent linear two-body method for Bose-Einstein condensates **in time-dependent harmonic traps* * * *SEE* * * http://www.physics.purdue.edu/people/faculty/yekim/8_Equivalent_Linear_two_body.pdf On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Ni

Re: [Vo]:E*CAT from Australia, etc.

2012-07-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
http://www.e-cataustralia.com/ http://www.freeenergysystems.com/Andrea_Rossi_Discusses_The_E-Cat_Part_1/ http://pesn.com/2012/07/19/9602138_LENR-to-Market_Weekly_July19/ Thanks Hoyt, From http://www.freeenergysystems.com/Andrea_Rossi_Discusses_The_E-Cat_Part_1/ Ar claims: The industrial

[Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, At first I hesitated in posting this potential news publicly, but since it's already being discussed in several websites, I ought to share it here as well. Why delay the inevitable? You might remember Jim Dunn's presentation from ILENRS-12 posted on PESN [1][2]. On page 9 it

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Yeah, that's Vysotskii, looking old. What's the big deal? Defkalion accidentally left the names of the researchers in the photos they uploaded. None of these people has told me a thing, by the way. I don't bug them, because they have signed NDAs. That's a pretty sad experimental setup, isn't

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-07-19 23:52, Jed Rothwell wrote: Yeah, that's Vysotskii, looking old. What's the big deal? Defkalion accidentally left the names of the researchers in the photos they uploaded. Well, given the latest unconfirmed grave news of the company possibly leaving the country, with all the

Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:30 PM 7/19/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Do people here know that Pons and Fleischmann were seeing 100% of their cells showing excess heat at the time that they announced? I do not recall that every sample worked.

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:52 PM 7/19/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Yeah, that's Vysotskii, looking old. Funny, it doesn't look like Vysotskii to me, the person sitting at the table looks younger. But appearances can be decieving, it might be Vysotskii. I've only seen photos. Someone who actually knows Vysotskii

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Andre Blum
So.. what do you guys think: is Vysotskii an employee / contractor there, or was he there for one of the third party tests [ or can that distinction not be made at all ]? In any case: First we had just a website with a forum, then we had a photo of a front door of a building with a defkalion

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Funny, it doesn't look like Vysotskii to me, the person sitting at the table looks younger. But appearances can be decieving, it might be Vysotskii. I've only seen photos. I've only seen photos too. I don't recall meeting him. Could be wrong.

Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Well, Jed, you may be right. However, when I wrote that Pons and Fleischmann only had one out of six cells work -- I really don't recall where I got that idea, and it might be from later work, whatever -- I was immediately corrected with a

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I've only seen photos too. I don't recall meeting him. Could be wrong. You have his paper on biological transmutations on your site. T

Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:09 PM 7/19/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax mailto:a...@lomaxdesign.coma...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Well, Jed, you may be right. However, when I wrote that Pons and Fleischmann only had one out of six cells work -- I really don't recall where I got that idea, and it might be

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 07:38 PM 7/19/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I've only seen photos too. I don't recall meeting him. Could be wrong. You have his paper on biological transmutations on your site. Oh, he knows that! I'd thought that Jed

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Nothing wrong with making up stuff, it's *very* human, but it really helps to be aware that this is what we are doing. My impression is that you are trying to unmake stuff. T

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-19 Thread David L Babcock
On 7/18/2012 11:08 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: ... I suggest you read my book, chapters 14 and 15 especially. I show why cold fusion will probably reduce electric power costs by two-thirds quickly, and why eventually it will reduce all energy costs -- including equipment costs -- by orders of

Re: [Vo]:Migrant Workers in China Face Competition from Robots

2012-07-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 9:42 PM, David L Babcock ol...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Lacking -at this moment- your book, I plunge ahead anyway... It's a quick, free download: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf T

Re: [Vo]:defkalion considering to leave Greece (?)

2012-07-19 Thread David Roberson
I just want to inject a thought about the NAE regions. The current flowing within the device and the electrolyte will induce a magnetic field within the active metal. At the moment I am not aware of any attempt to control the direction of the lines of force that are present and wonder if

Re: [Vo]:Identity of a DGT third party (?) tester inadvertently made public through a PowerPoint presentation

2012-07-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:11 PM 7/19/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com wrote: Nothing wrong with making up stuff, it's *very* human, but it really helps to be aware that this is what we are doing. My impression is that you are trying to unmake

[Vo]:The SWNT rug part 1

2012-07-19 Thread Axil Axil
The SWNT rug part 1 Fabrication of the ideal charge delivery nanostructure for LENR may be beyond the capabilities and limited resources of the lone Ni/H reactor developer. This may be why Rossi has greatly benefited from collaboration with advanced technology partners who can design and

Re: [Vo]:The SWNT rug part 1

2012-07-19 Thread Axil Axil
FYI Who’s doing research into the SWNT rug or carpet? Rice University is way ahead of everybody else under a series of grants from the Multidisciplinary Research Program of the ONR, the Office of Naval Research and NASA. From the ONR office: *The DoD expects that MURI programs will promote