[Vo]:Emilio del Giudice has died

2014-02-01 Thread Peter Gluck
Cold fusion has lost a good friend: professor Emilio del Giudice (born 1940) has died yesterday. http://biourbanistica.com/2014/1/31/addio-emilio-del-giudice/ A great scientist and a charming personality. Caro Emilio, arrivederci in la Wallhalla dei coldfusionisti! Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck

Re: [Vo]:Emilio del Giudice has died

2014-02-01 Thread John Berry
John R. Huizenga, then Sven Kullander and now Emilio del Giudice. It would seem to be a bad time to be older and on either side of LENR. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Cold fusion has lost a good friend: professor Emilio del Giudice (born 1940) has

RE: [Vo]:[Vo] BLP New Mills paper, with replication reported

2014-02-01 Thread Frank roarty
My takeaway from this paper is that Randy has embraced the inverse Rydberg state of hydrogen as an equivalent description of his hydrino but he doesn't finish describing the correlation between astrophysical hydrogen and inverse rydberg hydrogen which is important.. Mills also embraced the

RE: [Vo]:Emilio del Giudice has died

2014-02-01 Thread Jones Beene
One does not need to be a linguist to appreciate the phrase: arrivederci in la Wallhalla dei coldfusionisti From: John Berry John R. Huizenga, then Sven Kullander and now Emilio del Giudice. Peter Gluck wrote: http://biourbanistica.com/2014/1/31/addio-emilio-del-giudice/ A

Re: [Vo]:Emilio del Giudice has died

2014-02-01 Thread Nigel Dyer
If you wanted to find out where the intersting and exciting science was taking place which was being ignored by main stream science then you just had to find out where Emilio was. I met him initially at conferences about biophotons, and more recently at conferences about water. He always

Re: [Vo]:Emilio del Giudice has died

2014-02-01 Thread Peter Gluck
'in la' has to be 'nella', but I was shocked Emilio was among many other virtues an excellent speaker peter On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: One does not need to be a linguist to appreciate the phrase: arrivederci in la Wallhalla dei coldfusionisti

[Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Jones Beene
Those who have been around the alternative energy scene for long enough are certainly aware of the niche which is now called simply HHO. The name is loaded - it implies that there is a fundamental difference in two forms of split water. HHO was once called hydroxy or Browns gas and is not fully

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread James Bowery
If Mills discloses he deserves credit for that. By discloses I mean what the patent office means: Provides sufficient information in the patent disclosure for those skilled in the art to realize beneficial use independent of the inventor. By the art I clearly do not mean HHO/energy from

RE: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Jones Beene
From: James Bowery If Mills discloses he deserves credit for that. By discloses I mean what the patent office means: Provides sufficient information in the patent disclosure for those skilled in the art to realize beneficial use independent of the inventor. You've seen his recent

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:38 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: By the art I clearly do not mean HHO/energy from water/etc. I mean whatever conventional technologies are combined to realize beneficial use of the invention. That's one of the things I don't get about the BlackLight

Re: [Vo]:Emilio del Giudice has died

2014-02-01 Thread Aldo Maggi
Il 01/02/2014 17:25, Peter Gluck ha scritto: 'in la' has to be 'nella', but I was shocked Emilio was among many other virtues an excellent speaker peter not really important, but in italian we treat the german word walhalla as a masculine one, therefore should be: nel walhalla. sorry for the

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Axil Axil
Russ Gries has demonstrated hydrogen plasma expansion driven by electric discharge as follows: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBWiWftGknI#t=1676 Papp has the water plasma expansion driven by electric discharge covered in this first patent award. Therefore, Mills has no original IP claim

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Nigel Dyer
I very much agree about unpatentable theory. Perhaps the claim that sets it apart from ost if not all of teh previous water arc systems is claim 41 The electrochemical power system of Claim 40 further comprising one or more solid fuel reactants to form at least one of the conductor, source

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-02-01 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: MILLIONS of cancer -sufferers have been given fresh hope of a cure after ground-breaking research. . . . The discovery by an Israeli specialist was last night hailed as radical and potentially life-changing. In a world first, Professor Aaron Avivi

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Axil Axil
This recent Mills claim supports my contention that the explosion of plasma comes from the well-known and largely studied explosion of nano and micro particles through irradiation by x-rays. Mills is forming microscopic particles from hydrogen and potassium and possibly carbon which are

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Axil Axil
More... http://www-wales.ch.cam.ac.uk/~wales/CCD/anant-watcl.html X-ray produced explosion of water clusters: http://xray.bmc.uu.se/hajdu/experiment/html/damage.htm On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: This recent Mills claim supports my contention that the

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 1 Feb 2014 11:06:22 -0800: Hi, [snip] . other than, of course, the bald claim that the discharge is not really through water nor through HHO but is through Mills version in which one of the hydrogen atoms is in a reduced orbital making it more of a

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Those who have been around the alternative energy scene for long enough are certainly aware of the niche which is now called simply HHO. ... Mills new paper should be read in that context. Basically it is an HHO paper,

RE: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Jones Beene
Robin, Mills covers all the bases in that extraordinarily long patent application. Of course, no one can claim or patent water alone as a proprietary catalyst, when it is also the reactant. You can see where that would lead. -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com If I'm not

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Axil Axil
The REAL reaction in a nutshell, two items are required to make the popper explode; EUV and Nano-clusters. The catalysts produce plasmonically amplified EUV produced initially by the electric arc. The water provides the nano-clusters that vigorously expand via coulomb explosion. It is not that

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Axil Axil
I'd also put DGT's approach into this group. Has DGT ever reported a huge pressure increase and/or a shock wave immediately after the spark discharge? I would expect such a process to occur consistent with spark discharge in hydrogen that other people have seen. On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 4:23 PM,

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Has DGT ever reported a huge pressure increase and/or a shock wave immediately after the spark discharge? I would expect such a process to occur consistent with spark discharge in hydrogen that other people have seen. Good

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Axil Axil
What is it that distinguishes the two types of setups? Perhaps it is that they're fundamentally different in nature; I think the difference involves the nature of the spark discharge. If the spark imparts a very high level of instantaneous power, pressure is produced and heat is minimized.

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-02-01 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:47:38 PM Actually Alan, this is a good idea. Tom Claytor has been slowly mastering production of tritium using cold fusion to the point where this might be a practical source. But as you point out, the excess energy

Re: [Vo]:General Fusion Founder to Speak at TED Conference

2014-02-01 Thread Edmund Storms
His statement is designed to reduce fears about its production during application of LENR. If creation of tritium were the goal, this rate could be easily increased. Ed Storms On Feb 1, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com Sent: Friday, January

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Atlanta frozen again

2014-02-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: The snow had a hypnotic undulating motion which was freakin' drivers. They insisted on driving slow although there was no hazard. I made it outside the perimeter highway as traffic began to collapse. It was like I was

[Vo]:Understanding B LP, Chapter 5

2014-02-01 Thread Mike Carrell
A new paper, by Mills and Lu, has been posted. It is quite technical and not directly related to the performance of the SF-CIHT device, but is strongly related to the hydrogen chemistry involved in it, and to astrophysical puzzles. This area is summarized in the Technical Presentation

RE: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Mike Carrell
It is easy to see BLP's HOH as 'really' Browns' Gas, written HHO. Brown's Gas is that collected from the electrolysis of water, which when ignited seemed to yield more energy than required to electrolyze it. If one **studies** Mills' work with the catalysis of H, there is a curious relationship.

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread James Bowery
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: *From:* James Bowery If Mills discloses he deserves credit for that. By discloses I mean what the patent office means: Provides sufficient information in the patent disclosure for those skilled in the art to

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC How to survive a robot uprising

2014-02-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Google has purchased Boston Dynamics the maker of all these strange robots. No longer will google be known for their virtual bots only.

Re: [Vo]:A return to Brown's Gas / HHO ?

2014-02-01 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding: *Mills' HOH is an abbreviation for *nascent* H2O.* Mills is inventing more theory to fit experimental reality into his special world. HOH is really only the generation of water clusters that are required to explode when irradiated by x-rays. Joe Papp had a preprocessor to produce

[Vo]:Limits of Quantum Theory

2014-02-01 Thread Terry Blanton
Is there a size limit to QT? http://aeon.co/magazine/nature-and-cosmos/our-quantum-reality-problem/ Great article!

Re: [Vo]:Understanding B LP, Chapter 5

2014-02-01 Thread Dr Josef Karthauser
Hi Mike, Do you have a link to this paper please? Thanks, joe On 2 Feb 2014 at 02:38:08 am GMT, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com wrote: A new paper, by Mills and Lu, has been posted. It is quite technical and not directly related to the performance of the SF-CIHT device, but is strongly