Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Peter Gluck
This was dicussed already twice but DeJavu is a reality (see my blog today about the psychological phenomenon). Question: do yu have information from Rossi or you have the piping diagram of the plant showing clearly and exactly (as position) where in the gravity return pipe was placed the

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Stephen Cooke
Jed.. nice square bracketing. What if we remove those... and assume the ERV's English is fine. Have you considered the external tank could be located at the external plant close to the condensor? In fact everything we say is speculation and can be interpreted how we want depending how we want

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen Cooke wrote: Jed.. nice square bracketing. > As I said, that was added by Abd. I do not know where the original document is in the lawsuit papers. > What if we remove those... and assume the ERV's English is fine. > It isn't fine! It is difficult to

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: > Question: do yu have information from Rossi or you have the piping > diagram of the plant showing clearly and exactly (as position) where > in the gravity return pipe was placed the flowmeter? > This information is from Rossi! He uploaded these

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Stephen Cooke
Jed So changing "external plant" to "external tank" and changing "internal tank " to "external tank" is correcting bad English... Uhhh okaayy ?? The internal tank was inside the E-Cat plant not the external one. I'm not going to get drawn into childish bickering. I intend to wait from now

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Jones Beene
Speaking of Penon, or should I say the absence of Penon, has anyone considered the rules of evidence in Federal Court for getting that ERV report into evidence? As it stands now, Penon - who is the supposed expert who collected the data and wrote the report is unavailable to appear for

Re: [Vo]:LENR Theoryplex, discussions some info

2017-02-21 Thread a.ashfield
Peter, Thanks for posting Ed Storms comment. I find it the best summary of the situation that I have seen so far. I find the basic problem is with the Patent Office. By making it so difficult to get patents related to LENR they have prevented the knowledge from becoming public. Rossi has

[Vo]:Amazon Appstore – Parrot Teacher is Approved

2017-02-21 Thread Frank Znidarsic
App going live Friday. I still needs some work and I don't have every device. I will make it free in a week or so for you to try out. I would appreciate some reviews. -Original Message- From: no-reply-appdev To: Frank Znidarsic

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Brian Ahern
On September 23, 2012 Arthur Manelas told me he was handing over the technology to me to bring it forward. He had a massive aneurizm two days later. He never recovered and he died in December 2015. In his last two months of vitality he took the device apart and I have the components, but no

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Axil Axil
@Brian Ahern Regarding the speculation that the energy to drive the electric output of the device might come from heat conversion to electron flow: What component of the MANELAS device cooled down? Was it the magnetic billet, the air above the billet, or the aluminum container that held the

[Vo]:Negative energies in LENR land

2017-02-21 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2017/02/feb-21-2017-about-negative-energies-in.html Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Axil Axil
>From what Brian Ahern said, the magnetic billet he used ran out of energy after two years. If this depletion is the case, then there must be some consumable involved in the power production process. It is my belief that there is a single cause for LENR. This cause involves transmutation and the

[Vo]:Fwd: Amazon Appstore – Parrot Teacher is Approved for Jed

2017-02-21 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I learned something Jed would like. When I was doing my apps I put text into quotations something like this: print "Hi Jed" The app then displays Hi Jed. There is another way to do this by putting all of the text in the string file like print @string greeting In the string file is :

[Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Brian Ahern
Excess energy and magnetic cooling seem to poke up every now and then. It is difficult for even the most dedicated technologists to connect phonons with magnons. I have had some unique experience with this interaction during my tenure as a Staff Sientist at USAF Rome Lab in Lexington MA. I

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Brian please allow me to publish this in my blog. thanks, peter On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Brian Ahern wrote: > Excess energy and magnetic cooling seem to poke up every now and then. It > is difficult for even the most dedicated technologists to connect phonons >

Re: [Vo]:automation and its economics effects

2017-02-21 Thread Ron Wormus
It's not necessarily a bad thing. Watson is likely better at diagnosis than most doctors & computers can read x-rays and mammogram's better than humans but there needs to be a new economic model in place before most of the jobs are gone. --On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:51 PM -0500

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread David Roberson
Jed, Does your diagram show how the floating device in the system tank controls the intake water flowing into it? Also, does it show that the customer feed tank is located above the system feed tank so that water flowing into the second or system tank literally falls into it? There are a

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Axil Axil
The MANELAS Phenomenon seems to be included in a family of overunity devices that are related to negative resistance. In electronics *negative resistance* (*NR*) is a property of some electrical circuits and devices in which an increase in voltage across the device's terminals results in a

RE: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Chris Zell
When all is said and done, wouldn’t it be true that there is a choice as to considering the primary source of these energies? Either you are removing energy primarily from nuclei – and thereby transmuting them into something else (which preserves energy conservation/TD) Or you’re removing

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: > Penon simply says flowmeter between JMP plant and E-Cats and anybody > who has seen a plant knows ab ovo it MUST be immediately after the pump > water flow measured, injected in the E-Cats > No, that is not what Penon says. Here is the circuit: 1

RE: [Vo]:Regarding what BOB COOK THINKS ABOUT THE NAE

2017-02-21 Thread Chris Zell
Heavens to Occam’s Razor…… you suggest two surprising, unknown effects at the root of this….. If a nuclear aspect is added, I would think that it goes back to a withdrawal of motion or its rectification somehow. We would tap latent heat motion and also tap electron spin motion. I really

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread a.ashfield
Jones, This seems a typical negative piece from you. I'm not a lawyer but I understand there are other ways to get the ERV's report entered as evidence, besides having Penon show up. Why do you say Rossi would make a bad impression in court? Everyone who has met him (IH excepted) say he is

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread a.ashfield
Jed, I thought you said earlier that you had the plumbing layout but were not allowed to show it. If so, there should be no doubt about whether there is U in the system. AA On 2/20/2017 8:41 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: There has been some discussion here about the position of the flow meter

Re: [Vo]:Penon described the position of flow meter

2017-02-21 Thread Peter Gluck
Jed, Penon simply says flowmeter between JMP plant and E-Cats and anybody who has seen a plant knows ab ovo it MUST be immediately after the pump water flow measured, injected in the E-Cats on JONP Rossi said more times piping forms U flowmeter down- standard engineering you say- "many pumps,

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Brian Ahern
The billet did not stop making energy. He stopped it to re-build. There was no radiation observed with alpha, beta and gamma detectors.Also we had 3 kinds of neutron detectors reading nothing above background From: Axil Axil Sent: Tuesday,

[Vo]:Re: Amazon Appstore – Parrot Teacher is Approved for Jed

2017-02-21 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I am searching for markets that are too small for the big developers by big enough for me, myself and I. I was thinking too complex. Parrot Teacher is a keep it simple stupid app. It has cute birds. It needs a video with a happy young woman and pretty bird learning to talk. I have just now

Re: [Vo]:DESCRIBING THE MANELAS Phenomenon

2017-02-21 Thread Bob Higgins
What happened to Manelas? Is he still alive? Are you still working with him? Has he shared the principles by which he built the device? On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Brian Ahern wrote: > The billet did not stop making energy. He stopped it to re-build. There > was no