Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Jones, I wonder if you are confused by the rating of a CFL being 5000C. The argon in a CFL is not nearly completely ionized, it is a gas discharge, but not a full plasma. Being fully ionized is not necessary for the CLF gas, which is merely there to hold the mercury that emits the UV

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

I don't think anyone outside of Mills' team can say that he has made even 1W of excess heat from any of his devices. The one quick bomb calorimetry demo done was very crude calorimetry, was not believable, and a paper was not published on it. If Mills wants to convince his critics, he should

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Bib, Wow! you guys are harsh! I think Mills should be given the benefit of the doubt. He has raised plenty of money & a lot of due diligence has been done over the years. Why should he invite competition by proving anything? Especially with the US Patent office problems. At my age I don't

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

As I understand the crucial thing to achieve good evidences is to close the reactor and run it for long enough time with plain old water bath calormetry. Previously he had to shut down the experiment after just a short time. Closing the system can reveal new caveats and difficulties so this step

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Stefan, "I got the impression that these validatoins will be done when they close the system reliably and not when they manage to get the photovoltaics functioning which is logical." That does not sound logical to me. They are close enough to having photovoltaics that it seems pointless to

[Vo]:Whats wrong with this picture?

The smallest known star that astronomers have found is named OGLE-TR-122b. Its radius is accurately measured at 167,000 km. That makes it 20% larger than planet Jupiter but like most stars, it is radiating energy in a way which indicates that nuclear fusion has been underway for billions of

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Bob, " If Mills wants to convince his critics, he should publish credible calorimetry of one of his devices over the course of a reasonable time period (at least twelve hours). He should describe the experiment in detail, and provide data and analysis." I doubt he has any incentive to

RE: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Bob— Mills and Rossi do not hold a candle to the hype made by the hot fusion community over the years and the golden eggs they have accumulated. Bob Cook Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bob Higgins Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 9:16 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Should Mills

[Vo]:Niobium - Iridium thermocouples

Regarding the Nb-Ir thermocouples ... Bob, can you suggest a source for these thermocouples and their voltage calibration data? For my experiments, the cost of the hardware is coming out of my own pocket - not someone else's deep pocket. For k-type thermocouples, the voltage-temperature profile

RE: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Jones— You note regarding the Lugano test and Higgins assessment the following: “The systemic optical false assumptions have rendered any further conclusion unscientific. Levi was reportedly paid an enormous amount of money by Elforsk and yet made stupid errors, notably failing to use high

RE: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Here here… the comment about the bogus candles of the Hot Fusion cabals for decades utterly outshines even ‘brilliant light’ illumination. What transpires here in this whirling vortex is mostly ever dimming ‘gaslighting’ by the usual suspects. From: bobcook39...@gmail.com

[Vo]:two postings today,my one about scandsl and info

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2017/03/mar-27-2017-lenr-scandal-some-info.html but please see too, for my blog-associate. Georgina's posting, this: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/managers-mirror-pilot- episode-where-am-i-georgina-popescu good lecture! -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania

Re: [Vo]:Niobium - Iridium thermocouples

Bob, What do you want the thermocouples for? ie what temperature? I have never used Niobium - Iridium thermocouples in the glass industry. We always used type S, and type B for more stable results over years duration, for things like furnace crowns at 1550C, but this had the disadvantage of

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Brian, He has demonstrated the SunCell to various audiences. Mills says he will demonstrate the SunCell producing power soon after the required photovoltaics are developed and in pace - later this year. Obviously he can't do that before. You are saying he is a fraud and will never do that,

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

It has never been independently observed, but is often quoted. If it was true, he could openly demonstrate it operating. From: a.ashfield Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 8:19 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and

Re: [Vo]:Niobium - Iridium thermocouples

Presently I am using k-type thermocouples outside of their comfortable range to 1200C. Bob Cook was suggesting the Nb-Ir thermocouples in place of k-type. MFMP has used before a b-type thermocouple, but it was quite expensive. I would love to find an inexpensive (but controlled) s-type or

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

bobcook39...@gmail.com wrote: Jones—I assume you lump Rossi’s one-month Lugano test in with your definition of scam-built “half-truths” tests.We will see. Bob Cook. Funny you should mention "half-truth" Bob, since it is not quite half... 47% actually. I support the conclusion of Bob

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Brian, Neither you not I are close enough to know why Mills hasn't gone after it. Probably he doesn't need it. You don't know what conditions are attached to the $1B either. Of course you assume the worst. Where in every house is there a plasma again? Mills' plasma can melt large tungsten

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

PEVs are pocket change in a game of this magnitude. Time is of the essence. If they were going to have trouble with a controller, that would still happen. AA On 3/27/2017 6:44 PM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe wrote: >> That does not sound logical to me. They are close enough to having

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

Sometimes it is best to shave with Occam's razor. Bill Gates says he will invest $1B in any real new source of energy. Why hasn't Mills addressed this source. Mills will not allow any discussion of this opportunity, because he would have to submit to due diligence. But the mindless

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

>> That does not sound logical to me. They are close enough to having photovoltaics that it seems pointless to mess around with water calorimetry. I believe that they would not risk damaging the photovoltaics with a bad controller and spend quite some time to make it robust and verified, why not

Re: [Vo]:Should Mills and Rossi be lumped together?

I still thinks they will reach 500 degrees months before 3000 degrees. I have got a lot of respect for getting that thing up to 3000. On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 4:00 AM, a.ashfield wrote: > PEVs are pocket change in a game of this magnitude. Time is of the > essence. If

Re: [Vo]:Niobium - Iridium thermocouples

Bob I think Type S would be good for your range. Type S works well for months. I never understood why MFMP used type K. I offered them an oz. of Pl/Rh alloy some while ago, that they could trade for type S thermocouples, but they never took me up on it. AA On 3/27/2017 5:22 PM, Bob