I was curious to know if any anomalies have been reported in regard to
thyratrons or other regulator tubes. There are a number of free energy
claimants - Correa, Shoulders, Chernetski, Stamenko and others - who use
discharges in vacuum tubes . However, many of us lack the extensive resources
The Nobel involved in the discovery that ulcers are cause by an infection is a
direct example of this problem. The researchers were rather angry about their
treatment in a matter that was easy to replicate. Everyone knew they must be
wrong.
--- On Fri, 5/8/09, Jed Rothwell
Thank you for this update.
I firmly believe that the world is facing a depression in 2 - 5 years unless
someone comes up with a dramatic technological catalyst for growth. A Really
Good Battery would do that and more. I also think that it is the answer to
concerns about nukes in Iran and a
I have never felt such an overwhelming perception that our world economy is
fragile, lacking any depth of stamina and operating on the thinnest of a margin
for error.
We have now purchased a brief 'timeout' with wild debts that the next
generation will never be able to repay. As it is, we
I would like to see some company formed to extract lithium from US oil field
brines. We desperately need new battery technology and it would not be good if
Bolivia is the only or dominant source such that prices remain high.
There are a wide number of inventions or independent observations related to
'free energy' that appear to be derived from a single phenomena: charge
clusters or other anomalous concentrations of charge.
The fundamental work appears to be from Ken Shoulders (patent 5018180). His
patent
--- On Thu, 6/11/09, mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com
I understand your point but I think somebody more knowledgeable than me needs
to analyze Shoulders work as well as the others that are similar. If these
anomalous concentrations of charge are real, it changes everything - and it is
Here's the reality: There's no way any new nukes will be built in the US,
aside from expansion of existing ones. NIMBYism makes it politically
impossible. Even Jim Cramer nixes the idea of investing in nuke building for
this reason. My God, look how much political trouble it is just to
I'm well aware of blacklight power and I unreservedly salute Mills and others
for their brave fight against prejudiced academic opponents. It's the sort of
technology that could save our civilization and change political dynamics for
the better.
That said, there are still hurdles. Can a
OK, I'm interested in the anomalies you mentioned, particularly the
conditioning of space.
The whole no ether thing never made sense to me because the characteristic
impedance of space is about 328 ohms and is a real factor in antenna design..
No Ether? What's impeding the RF?
I think
we will shortly conquer fusion
Next question is, what do you do with it, once conquered? How do you make
energy portable or put fusion in a car?
Lemme get this straight, you wanna build fusion reactors to make gasoline?
OK, so economic development isn't always linear. Maybe if you reduce energy
inputs to nearly zero cost, the other costs of labor and equipment still give
you cheap gasoline.
But first the minor hurdle of achieving
So, now we're debating about debating about religion and politics?
Jeez Louise guys, Our Founding Fathers taught us that politics exists because
of the limits/failures of religion (Tom Paine) and both religion and politics
exist largely because of the present limits of technology.
Free
Dolphins? ET's?
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish!
So, individually, we stand almost no chance of contributing anything to cold
fusion, nor has any particularly practical way been conceived to power a
vehicle with it.(??!)
Many of us have to worry about having any savings, job or retirement at all,
much less hundreds of thousands for a
Design News (6/09) magazine cover shouts Slamming Amps and shows how
electric racers are beating muscle cars at the strip.
An electric 1978 Ford Pinto did a 12. 4 sec quarter mile. A street legal
electric Datsun did 11.4 and an electric motorcycle (Killacycle) did it in 7.8
sec.
The beauty
There are many reasons why the dollar and the US economy collapsed in 2013.
Historians offer many opinions on the chain of events that led to the Federal
government defaulting on its debt. However, one factor is widely agreed upon:
The sudden emergence of Cold Fusion - while hailed as
I appreciate this techno-anarchist vision as offering a measure of hope.
I can remember Tom Paine's writings about the American Revolution saying 'let
the trouble occur in my day so that my children will live in peace' . Today,
we place our grandkids in hopeless debt, by contrast.
Global
Your comments suggest that we have our backs against the wall. I feel impelled
to agree and I am actually glad to see such comments.
Economics is called the dismal science for good reason. Science and academia do
not exist in isolation. As more and more facts are revealed, it is apparent
I sometimes wonder if, after the decline of organized religions influence, the
same human emotions remain - especially guilt. So, people adopt religious
behavior in regard to the environment or carbon trading or whatever.
There are reasons for poverty in the world and corruption and bad
Economics is called the dismal science for a good reason.
If we gave up meat or any other resource, the price of said commodity would
indeed drop - temporarily. Once the farmers understood that their market had
disappeared, they would liquidate their herds. After that, meat ( or whatever
However, the fact is that as cars get older, Sha'ken becomes more and more
expensive. Eventually, if the car stops running well or reaches a certain age
(even though it's still a good car), you may have to pay a fee just to get rid
of it. This is the reason why there are so few older cars in
As to hallucinations, there have been a number of people since the '60's who
function very well in responsible jobs despite having them. You may not hear
much about them since the problem can be an embarrassment. They quickly
understand to ignore walls moving as if breathing or rainbow
Allow me to point out that some of these incidents wherein people went
apeshit with delusions had a basis in fact. In Europe and possibly in the
Witch trials in early America, Huntington's disease was undiagnosed:
http://curehd.blogspot.com/2008/08/roots-of-our-stigma.html
As for other
There is an interesting book called The Science of Extraterrestrials by Eric
Julien. It goes with the temporal bubble idea.
There's a notion I have about weird phenomena that I avoided discussing because
it is so difficult to articulate. It concerns reductionism. By its very
nature, science
As to titration and medicine, you don't understand what I mean. A long time
ago, Bill Beaty commented on this problem - and the recent report on DNA
segments 'just knowing where to go' illustrates the issue.
You have positive and negative charges, attraction and repulsion and this is
Without commenting on individual abduction cases, the general descriptions of
aliens fits what I would expect from an extremely advanced technological
culture. Such as:
Minimized Individuality ( or none!) Take a good look at our technology and
consider that we have progressed from spears to
Thank you for posting this. While it deals with the micro level of reality, it
still illustrates the problem with reductionism and saying that something is
impossible because it violates a physical law.
Apparently, there are claims of some potential abductees being rejected due to
age or health.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086sid=aILLOMP8rU34refer=latin_america
I can't get a job interview and now, even ET's aren't hiring. This
interdimensional age discrimination is just
First, I think Congress should convert all of Hawaii over to electric
vehicles. Maybe Puerto Rico, too. Who needs a 300 mile range?
Unfortunately, this looks like a commuter car for rich folks like Ed
Begley. Other than that, they gotta get the price down for California,
especially in this
Is China an experiment in governance that no one has noticed? Specifically,
Rulership by Engineers! It seems that the majority of Chinese leaders have
degrees in various engineering disciplines rather than the sort of background
found elsewhere in the world amidst political leadership ( as
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9dpTTpjymE
I can't derive a better reply than yours.
FDR's interventions failed too, for years thereafter as the Depression went on
and on until WW2 or the trade that it triggered ended it. And Obama reviving
the economy? Appear is the correct word as trillions are borrowed, printed and
spent that will never be repaid. Our grandchildren
The new Chairman of GM was quoted ( Bloomberg) as saying I don't anything
about making cars. Given that and the 30 - 40K Volt, Yes, I would sell their
stock short. There's also a blog on Seeking Alpha expressing skepticism over
their all weather engineering relative to Toyota.
OTOH, you
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/pr?s=WPRT
This is a Canadian company to watch. They are making nat-gas fueled engines
and kits. Not profitable at the moment but Nat Gas is abnormally cheap - and
amazingly so when compared to oil. A number of Congressmen are looking at the
Pickens Plan again.
One day the Chinese cut off rare earth shipments and the prices go into the
sky. A couple of us guys come up with a cheap Cold Fusion method of creating
these elements in amounts well beyond parts per million.
We sell bars of terbium, europium and whatever-ium and get filthy rich.
We show
http://seekingalpha.com/article/159020-phevs-and-evs-plugging-into-a-lump-of-coal?source=email
Not a fan of hybrids, alas
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109sid=a.quj9vK5PhI
New GM chairman knows nothing about cars but he promises to learn about them.
Very reassuring. A guy on Seeking Alpha points out that the Coors
ceramic battery could change the whole solar power picture and decentralize
power
It ain't the friction what does it. It's the cavitation.
You mentioned a cure for cancer that worked in your case. I think you should
elaborate on this. Much as I like abduction stories, I think cures for dread
disease get the priority.
Thanks
There are projections of serious shortages of rare earth metals by 2017. This
may be an opportunity to turn some serious coin, dudes!
Avarf.pk may be the first (external to China) rare earth mine to achieve
production anytime soon.
see:
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/JubaksJournal/a-rare-opportunity-in-mining-stocks.aspx
I like Jubak's columns. He sees what I see in this area.
Well, either that or figure out how to make these elements by cold fusion..
The last car to use generators that I'm aware of was the VW Bug. I suppose
alternators were cheaper to build.
I was wondering if anyone knew a thorough answer to the question: How can a
charged thunderstorm exist? I've asked meterologists this question but no one
has any answer.
How can a cloud carry any charge at all? Why doesn't the charge cause the
cloud to instantly dissipate? If we can
I appreciate the answers but find that they generate more questions in the same
direction.
As of 1998, cloud electrification was still generally termed a mystery. It's
difficult to see how small charges over large distances still cooperate to
create a lightning bolt as a focused phenomena ,
Selling Cold Fusion? Public Relations? And this is Science we're talking
about? It's disgusting. Guys like Feyerabend were more right than anyone likes
to admit. Peer review becomes sneer review and instead of the Defenders of the
Dominant Paradigm dying off, we're stuck with obituaries in
I am NOT being critical of your efforts or anyone else in trying to promote
acceptance. I am, however, nauseated by the fact that such is deemed necessary
apparently because things have drifted into a sterile orthodoxy dominated by
scientific hierarchs.
Now, I'm not even sure we can depend
Take a good look at the job market and notice the Replicator effect - plenty
of minimum wage jobs and a few well paid critical jobs that have plenty of
applicants but companies find difficult to fill. And you think you can split
up the hours for a couple people?
As human beings, we are
see:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambroseevans_pritchard/6299291/Energy-crisis-is-postponed-as-new-gas-rescues-the-world.html
Enough nat gas reserves for 60 years! Convert the cars and defund terrorism
and crash the trade deficit. Goodbye to the peak oil threat.
Yeah, I'd
Personally, I wonder if the scientific community is nearly incapable of
progress because it's dominated by undiagnosed Aspergers and related
syndromes. Instead of being fascinated by shiny objects, they obsess about
assorted technicalities and tend to be puzzled by common social demands. Hint,
You could add the Schaefer device to this cavitation list. It produced steam
very efficiently by forcing cavitation within a spinning rotor.
Does anyone know the application number of the new turbine patent? I think we
should all make plenty of copies before the government slaps a secret
here we go:
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2005/0039434.html
Save a copy. Ya never know
The only thing I wonder about in regard to a cavitation powered device is: how
long does it work?
If cavitation can eat away at ships propellors, how long would a cavitation
motor last?
Did anyone ever test Brightsen's ideas about transmutation using NMR?
There have been similar claims, as http://www.rexresearch.com/meyernmr/meyer.htm
or the Colman/Seddon-Gillespie 'battery'. I think Brightsen passed away before
he could pursue his theories.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/
Just hit the Drudgereport. Obviously, many remarks may be taken out of context
but it looks to be an embarassment for many Global warming scientists.
I would
Ordinary things often look weird to me. Like how do zillions of raindrops
create a consistent appearance of a rainbow when they are randomly falling thru
the air... seems like you would get a mess of mostly white light and not a
neat march of apparently organized Roy G. Biv's.
Anyhow,
I'm a bit confused by the activity at the anode. If you remove an O (which
becomes O2 pretty quick) aren't you left with free hydrogen in the deal? But
you don't get both gases at one electrode. Drift velocity compared to the
speed of light is strange enough - now in these liquids we're
Why is it a big deal? With a partial load, you can trim electric useage way
down with a PWM controller. It works very well with stuff like
ventilation/cooling which is usually a variable load.
Good God! Thank you for pointing this out! What is the deal with people these
days and educated people at that? What is the benefit of creating endless
numbers of gadgets that don't work - and posting such fakes on YouTube?
I can't fathom either the efforts and expense of getting patents
How does this thing work? Is it real?
see:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,665182,00.html
Please provide your own ironic joke.
Everytime the subject of zero point energy comes up, I wanna ask, where's the
'drain', the 'cold side', the 'pressure release'?
At the bottom of the ocean, you have tons of pressure per square inch but what
good is that? You need an area of reduced pressure to get a flow going.
Likewise,
Frustrated by the refusal of the US Army to take their flying machine
seriously, the Wright Brothers embarked on a different strategy. Simply fly
their craft over various cities and get the public to accept the reality of
flight.. but things got much weirder.
People who witnessed them above
Maybe I've missed something but I've never read of a completely independent
replication of Correa's tubes overunity. This guy AbbeRue claims he has done
OU with it:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1310.45
The thread is really interesting stuff about spark gap triggered beta decay
see:
http://www.bibhasde.com/defense.html
A whole new physics. Wow! Could relate to free energy stuff
I think it is difficult to consider Japan's considerable achievements,
beautiful countryside and hard working people without also considering its
bleak future. Japan is dying.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/worldtonight/2009/09/is_japan_a_dying_nation.html
Japan is stuck in a long term
See:http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/297420/Japan%27s-Future-%22It%27s-Going-to-Be-Scary%22?tickers=ewj,^jpn,sne,tm,jpy=xsec=topStoriespos=8asset=ccode=
Japan's coming collapse is becoming quietly accepted by strategic investors.
After 20 years of little or no growth, despite
You are absolutely correct. I am appalled by CNBC using weasel words like
Great Recession. It's nonsense: With real unemployment nearing 18%, this is
a depression.
Perhaps y'all could enlighten me. I never understood the blanket rejection of
'ether' when radiation resistance is an engineering fact.
In the design of RF antennas, there is a radiation resistance of about 328
ohms. Clearly, something out there is 'resisting' the emission of RF. In
If we want to go all ad hominem (on Papp,) we could throw in Feynman's sleazy
advice on how to pick up sluts in bars, among other stuff. He was a great man
but far from flawless.
Infinite Energy ran a story that claimed that Feynman's account about the Papp
explosion was itself false, as per
Please read this blog from Seeking Alpha:
http://seekingalpha.com/article/185030-jobs-of-the-future?source=article_lb_articles
If you're not frightened and depressed, you should be. We need an energy
miracle to save us and the clock is ticking. It will soon be obvious even to
the
I'm aware of Mills work and have hope for his success. I hope he can expand
beyond utilities towards portability as lithium batteries may be too expensive
for a long time.
I vaguely recall an old article in the New Scientist that theorized that Great
Big Nuclei ( such as the fabled element 115) could throw off radiated
particles, yanking them out of the virtual realm.
I've wondered about such systems for sometime, those that convert one form of
energy to another.
Suppose someone had a vessel capable of being pressurized in which water was
electrolyzed. While electrolysis isn't that efficient, nevertheless, are the
pressurized gases therefrom a sort of
Business Insider recently reported that Krugman may be discreetly admitting
that he has made a serious oversight with regard to the viability of Social
Security. Automation is eliminating jobs at such a rate that the payroll tax
funding source may be in peril.
The work of Ken Shoulders (EV's or charge clusters) appears to me to be the
most ignored critical discovery of the age. It promises free energy and
outright transmutation - and if you read his background and lengthy patent, it
appears credible.
Also, a Russian scientist may have independently
The danger involved, for one thing, is the waste of vital capital in pursuit of
solutions that aren't real.
If we get Cold Fusion or A Really Good Battery, well and good, problem solved.
If not, wind, solar and nukes aren't going to replace oil. I am appalled at
academics who propose
Isn't the academic view just amazing? When confronted with malaise about
Bangladesh treading water in decades to come, they go all 'chapter and verse'
with specifics - yet, when asked about paying the bills, they drift off into
magic and mysticism. Somehow it will get paid for. Thank you,
Current headline at BusinessInsider : 80% of French Think Their Country Is
Bankrupt.
Clearly, these suffering people would benefit from more global warming
solutions. Likewise the growing number of Spanish people now living on the
street. Or the British people who are burning second hand
metro.co.uk Jan 5, 2013, Pensioners burn books to stay warm.
So, the investment in alternative energy would create more jobs? Like
polishing mirrors? Or do your robots do that after the coal miners/ railroad
workers/utility boiler feeders go on the dole?
Dismissing Wall Street opinion on
I have played the Market ( profitably). I never gamble or play poker. Even
Malkiel in his Random Walk thesis considered that there could be exceptions
(closed end funds, for example).
Cold Fusion is an effect that needs to be a practical product and large
companies might hate the idea,
Let's not forget outright fraud and theft while government regulators did
nothing to touch the scofflaw 1%.
There was a whole body of state and local legal tradition in regard to the
transfer of mortgages that was ignored by the banksters. They ran document
fraud factories in which people
Is it possible to build a free energy device using an electret to feed a sort
of relaxation oscillator? The charge builds up and then gets discharged, over
and over again.
I was puzzling over this as I picked up a large electrolytic cap from off a
shelf, where it had been sitting for several
Shale oil/gas projections have come under fire because such fracking projects
frequently have a short life span relative to past 'easy oil'. This may mean
that while such a resource is abundant - and seems to be growing as reserves
appear from week to week - they may be expensive.
So, we
http://www.businessinsider.com/americans-live-on-the-edge-of-financial-ruin-cfed-report-2013-2
The above provides the latest evidence that the US economy is hanging by
threads. Much the same goes for Europe and Japan. About half of US households
cannot weather any financial emergency nor
Rich nations can afford. No, they can't. That's the point. Their
populations are suffering and it's going to get much worse. Nor do developing
nations operate in a vacuum as markets are now more tightly correlated than
ever, contrary to many predictions.
Virtuous cycle? That would be
Blah, blah, blah..living from paycheck to paycheck.
The discussion begins and ends there, simply by defining what the phrase means.
With greater advances in automation soon, that phrase will often become
'welfare check to welfare check'.
But fear not for the climate ! The Drudge Report
Please stop referring to economic considerations of climate change as
'hijacking'.
Dawkins is an example of 'atheist theology' (oxymoron). He seems to desire a
neat, ordered, understandable world without any Creator behind it. He extends
traditional moral concerns to general society, as if they still had a Divine
authority behind them. Why is objective truth important?
First, I used to be an ardent Creationist but realized that nature does not
allow for such a notion. There's far too much that exists that's just horrible
- and ( seemingly) Really Well Designed - such as Guinea worms, Crocodiles,
Tyrannosaurus Rex and more. A personal Creator would have to be
Ah, see just is in previous section. Einstein was obsessed with
determinism. Didn't like that Heisenberg Principle.
I used to feel the same way but realized that you just run out of causes for
stuff. Things become emergent in our macro world because it's difficult to
neatly explain all the
Yes !
I'm also tempted by the thought in The Physics of Immortality in which God
appears in the future and works backward thru time to fix things. This would
make a person an atheist ( but only for now) until universal awareness (God)
emerges.
He quoted the revelation to Moses as ( ehyeh
Is it ever possible to discuss Intelligent Design without being a
crypto-creationist?
Judging from the nearly violent reception given to Ben Stein's Expelled, I
guess not. Blogs loaded up with long diatribes against Creationism by people
who refused to even watch the movie.
There was a
Too much like Keshe. Where's the details?
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Germans are shutting down nukes and shunning nat gas while burning more dirty
lignite. A green shift? really?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-19/merkel-s-green-shift-forces-germany-to-burn-more-coal-energy.html
I do admire the Germans in regard to their programs to offer jobs with reduced
hours but with most benefits retained. Futurewise, this is the way to go and is
a big improvement over simple unemployment or welfare.
Another country to admire ( to a degree) is Iran. 4 Bankers are scheduled for
Use a little imagination. They can can accuse LENR advocates as aiding
terrorists. They can plant child porn on their computers. They can make an
example of any one of them by murdering one of them and pretending it was a
suicide - or just a random crime that never gets solved.
And you think
You acknowledge the problem - and I think the good guys will win ultimately.
However, all those papers downloaded so far mean nothing - until you can
produce something simple, reliable and affordable for common useage.
I consider the situation nothing less than astonishing that, after the
I apologize if it seems that I introduce material associated with conspiracies
but I feel I have been driven to them, having no alternative. At present, the
world looks so bizarre to me, I cannot satisfy my sense of logic otherwise -
and if it isn't obvious already, the adventure of trying to
I have some friends in Canada who talk about their experience with health care
there. It is not as bad as some right wing types would have it - but it still
can be frightening. Seeing a specialist or getting an operation can be a far
greater wait than what most would experience in the US.
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