[Vo]:NI-H Generator

2011-08-26 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi, I am new to this list, greet you all! I had an idea to make an electrolytic device in order to make NiH thinfilms. Of course the final purpose is to get NI-H fusion or nuclear reactions. My english is not so good, but it should be obvious from the picture:

Re: [Vo]:The Krivit Videos Part 3

2011-08-27 Thread Peter Heckert
There is some strong evidence that has been missed by most. It is in the Essen-Kullander report. Unfortunately this was not emphasized in the media, but if you read the report, it becomes obvious.

Re: [Vo]:The Krivit Videos Part 3

2011-08-27 Thread Peter Heckert
BTW, whatever we think about Rossi, one thing seems clear to me: This guy is not stupid. He follows his own rules only. He must see, that all this steam discussion helps creating publicity. Internet and Google are full from this. Maybe he wants just this for purpose and takes advantage from it

Re: [Vo]:The Krivit Videos Part 3

2011-08-27 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.08.2011 14:38, schrieb Joe Catania: I'm glad you pointed that out because the calculation you seem to be alluding to is incorrect. Its not correct to assume the water would be heated evenly- it would not. In the chapter Initial running to reach vaporization they write that they measured

Re: [Vo]:The Krivit Videos Part 3

2011-08-27 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.08.2011 15:31, schrieb Joe Catania: There isn't much mixing with that low a flow. Also cold water tends to sink to the botton. Also steam tends to rise to the top. Also the temperature should form a gradient from cold to hot. In short the water is not the same temperature. But more

Re: [Vo]:Comments on separating water at exit of E-Cat

2011-08-27 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.08.2011 16:11, schrieb Peter Gluck: Peter, this method was already proposed here by an other Peter (not me) with using a dye. Rossi was not interested. Peter On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: BTW

Re: [Vo]:Comments on separating water at exit of E-Cat

2011-08-27 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.08.2011 16:48, schrieb Peter Gluck: Peterchen, ( I am 74 years old so you will excuse me) I am 57 now and turn 58 in september so you almost cannot be my father ;-) Perhaps there are more of us here, the one with the same good idea was P.J. van der Noorden. As regarding the October

Re: [Vo]:Comments on separating water at exit of E-Cat

2011-08-27 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.08.2011 17:09, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: BTW, there is an elegant method to see if the steam is dry: Dissolve a marker substance in the water, salt or sugar or something else. When the input concentration

Re: [Vo]:The Krivit Videos Part 3

2011-08-27 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 27.08.2011 17:29, schrieb Joe Catania: Convection is irrelevant. Its obvious that heat transfer is only to a small portion of the water. The thermal conductivity of water is about 500 times worse than the thermal conductivity of copper.

Re: [Vo]:September 22 might be Rossi's final deadline

2011-09-01 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 01.09.2011 17:27, schrieb Akira Shirakawa: Roy Virgilio (a close source to the Piantelli group who often posted reliable news on their ongoing work) wrote a post today in the italian Energeticambient forum that might interest Rossi followers as well. I will translate it below: It seems

Re: [Vo]:September 22 might be Rossi's final deadline

2011-09-01 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 01.09.2011 19:12, schrieb Akira Shirakawa: - Although Rossi initially complained about it, he agreed to perform tests without phase changes (no steam) I dont understand this. The devices where tested all the times with steam successfully. So they should be tested with steam, but the steam

Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-09-01 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 01.09.2011 20:12, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com mailto:jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Horace wrote: «I would note that steam sparging can have large errors due to steam escaping, due to variability in measuring the temperature decline curve, due to

Re: [Vo]:September 22 might be Rossi's final deadline

2011-09-01 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 01.09.2011 20:20, schrieb Akira Shirakawa: On 2011-09-01 20:11, Peter Heckert wrote: I dont understand this. The devices where tested all the times with steam successfully. [...] I guess they want to remove completely any possible source of error or ambiguity which steam brings, in a way

Re: [Vo]:September 22 might be Rossi's final deadline

2011-09-01 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 01.09.2011 20:53, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert wrote: - Although Rossi initially complained about it, he agreed to perform tests without phase changes (no steam) I dont understand this. The devices where tested all the times with steam successfully. So they should be tested

Re: [Vo]:September 22 might be Rossi's final deadline

2011-09-01 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 01.09.2011 21:13, schrieb Peter Heckert: That is a good rule of thumb. However, as I said these devices have been tested with liquid phase only. Rossi prefers steam because it is easier, more convenient, Yes, Rossi can look inside, but we cannot, so we cannot accept it. Even if the pope

Re: [Vo]:September 22 might be Rossi's final deadline

2011-09-01 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 01.09.2011 22:45, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert wrote: Yes, Rossi can look inside, but we cannot, so we cannot accept it. Even if the pope himself swears it on the holy bible I would not finally believe this before I have seen it myself. Do you mean: 1. Until you see an actual

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 02.09.2011 22:04, schrieb Horace Heffner: The above makes no sense to me. Resistor wattage ratings are merely the maximum wattage that can be put though them without the expectation they will be destroyed. The power ratings are not used to compute the power or current through them. If

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.09.2011 14:11, schrieb Horace Heffner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8QdVwY98E This should be correct because the current IEC 60446 standard is neutral-blue, line-brown, and protective-earth-green/yellow. There appears to be some kind of short white adapter between the wall

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.09.2011 14:48, schrieb Horace Heffner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistor I have had lots of experience burning out resistors. 8^) I too. Electronics once was my hobby, and still is my day job ;-) Because I repair, test and develop I have seen burned devices of all kinds ;-)

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-03 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.09.2011 15:23, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Sep 3, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 03.09.2011 14:11, schrieb Horace Heffner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8QdVwY98E This should be correct because the current IEC 60446 standard is neutral-blue, line-brown, and protective

Re: [Vo]:New June video interviews by Krivit

2011-09-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 03.09.2011 22:59, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Rossi was upset by Krivit's conclusions from these interviews, and his long report. So was I. I thought in particular he distorted Levi's statements about the purpose of the 18-hour test, and the reasons Levi does not plan to publish the results. As

Re: [Vo]:New June video interviews by Krivit

2011-09-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.09.2011 09:59, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 03.09.2011 22:59, schrieb Jed Rothwell: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTnucleartra.pdf This event was irrefutable proof of a massive, self-sustaining nuclear reaction. Mizuno has never had any doubt whatever about

[Vo]:LENR = LPNR ?

2011-09-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Low Energy Nuclear Reactions = Low Probability Nuclear Reactions? Now if these reactions are low probability, they still can happen, and can be true, but they have no practical value...

Re: [Vo]:New June video interviews by Krivit

2011-09-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.09.2011 16:30, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: This makes me a little bit sceptic about LENR. They research for 20 years now and still have no repeatable results. That is incorrect. You need to read the literature

Re: [Vo]:New June video interviews by Krivit

2011-09-04 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 04.09.2011 17:23, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: 10-20% COP is easily explained as measuring error. Not with the instruments used by McKubre or Storms. If you think it would be easy I suggest you write a paper

Re: [Vo]:RE: Relativistic Casimir Cavities

2011-09-05 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi Frank, I was thinking about this some time ago. I see these problems: When we make the Casimir plates then we must create two surfaces that fit exactly together. This requires energy. There are some simple possibilities: 1) We break a piece of metal and then we have two pieces that fit

Re: [Vo]:RE: Relativistic Casimir Cavities

2011-09-06 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 05.09.2011 23:56, schrieb Horace Heffner: Good question Peter, A possible answer begins on page 7 of: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/CasimirGenerator.pdf The lateral forces on capacitor plates is due to fringe fields. The Casimir force is highly non-linear, so fringe forces differ

Re: [Vo]:RE: Relativistic Casimir Cavities

2011-09-06 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 06.09.2011 17:58, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 06.09.2011 02:20, schrieb francis: Which is to say we outside the cavity appear to be the Paradox twin approaching C and slowing down due to time dilation relative to the modified ratio of V^2/C^2 inside the cavity. Interesting thought. Could

Re: [Vo]:RE: Relativistic Casimir Cavities

2011-09-06 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 06.09.2011 18:31, schrieb Peter Heckert: BTW, this theory http://www.esdjournal.com/techpapr/prevens/casimir/casimir.htm could possibly explain how the coloumb wall is overcome in nanoscaled inhomogenous condensed matter systems, but it denies classic Casimir Force. So, what should I

Re: [Vo]:RE: Relativistic Casimir Cavities

2011-09-06 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 06.09.2011 21:18, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Sep 6, 2011, at 8:33 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 06.09.2011 18:31, schrieb Peter Heckert: BTW, this theory http://www.esdjournal.com/techpapr/prevens/casimir/casimir.htm could possibly explain how the coloumb wall is overcome in nanoscaled

Re: [Vo]:Rossi quotes

2011-09-09 Thread Peter Heckert
Kullander and Essen reported, that the reactor was not flushed. http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3144960.ece/BINARY/Download+the+report+by+Kullander+and+Ess%C3%A9n+%28pdf%29. Page 2 , Startup: The air of atmospheric pressure was remaining in the container as a small impurity. Am

Re: [Vo]:Rossi quotes

2011-09-09 Thread Peter Heckert
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Kullander and Essen reported, that the reactor was not flushed. http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3144960.ece/BINARY/Download+the+report+by+Kullander+and+Ess%C3%A9n+%28pdf%29

Re: [Vo]:Rossi quotes

2011-09-09 Thread Peter Heckert
fond of interestingness but NOT this kind of interestingness. Peter On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Am 09.09.2011 20:24, schrieb Peter Gluck: How could they know that it was air in the reactor? I Dont know

[Vo]:Stories about surpression of scientific discoveries.

2011-09-09 Thread Peter Heckert
When cathode rays where researched, people tried to deflect the rays by electric fields. It was observed that cathode rays could NOT be deflected by external electrodes. Therefore Heinrich Hertz said, no this are not particles, this are longitudinal waves. He was the most famous scientist at

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi quotes

2011-09-11 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 11.09.2011 00:44, schrieb Jed Rothwell: mix...@bigpond.com mailto:mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I don't see why they would need to store any Hydrogen. They could just produce it on demand through electrolysis. If they can't do this then the device is worthless anyway. It is

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi quotes

2011-09-11 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 11.09.2011 11:04, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 11.09.2011 00:44, schrieb Jed Rothwell: mix...@bigpond.com mailto:mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I don't see why they would need to store any Hydrogen. They could just produce it on demand through electrolysis. If they can't do

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi quotes

2011-09-11 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 11.09.2011 11:36, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 11.09.2011 11:04, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 11.09.2011 00:44, schrieb Jed Rothwell: mix...@bigpond.com mailto:mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I don't see why they would need to store any Hydrogen. They could just produce it on demand

[Vo]:Rossi e-cat catalyzer, Gamma rays

2011-09-13 Thread peter . heckert
Hi, Could it be that Rossi uses a Cobalt60 gamma source as catalyzer? Cobalt 60 decays to Nickel60 and emits gamma rays. The gamma spectrum could be just the right spectrum and energy to excite the Nickel nucleus. Maybe it is mainly the Cobalt60 that needs screening and not the reactor? This

Re: [Vo]:1MW Indipendent testing?

2011-09-13 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 13.09.2011 20:32, schrieb Peter Gluck: TESTING is a problem of definition, like sex- a la Bill Clinton. Testing is always testing for what Is it really about a perfect experment done with hundreds of E-cats combined;, energy out, energy in radiations out and so on..,.? Without doubt tests

Re: [Vo]:Rossi e-cat catalyzer, Gamma rays

2011-09-13 Thread Peter Heckert
Horace, thank you very much. I dont have the knowledge to calculate this. Only know the very basics. Found this via google: http://itcanbeshown.com/NERS425/Lab5/Shielding%20-%20Final%20Version.pdf There is data about screening. My idea was, it could be a very small and weak source, such as

Re: [Vo]:Rossi e-cat catalyzer, Gamma rays

2011-09-13 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 13.09.2011 22:47, schrieb Man on Bridges: Hi, On 13-9-2011 20:44, Horace Heffner wrote: snip calculation of lead shielding Hmmm, is there a way to start and stop a gamma radiation source, as it may be used only to trigger the process? There is no other way than shielding or increasing

Re: [Vo]:Rossi e-cat catalyzer, Gamma rays

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 14.09.2011 01:20, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Sep 13, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 13.09.2011 22:47, schrieb Man on Bridges: Hi, On 13-9-2011 20:44, Horace Heffner wrote: snip calculation of lead shielding Hmmm, is there a way to start and stop a gamma radiation source

Re: [Vo]:Rossi e-cat catalyzer, Gamma rays

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 14.09.2011 02:17, schrieb Man on Bridges: Hi, On 14-9-2011 1:20, Horace Heffner wrote: snip calculation Just a thought. Let's suppose Rossi is using a gamma radiation source as a catalyzer. Is it then possible to determine the source (catalyzer) of the gamma source, if the following

Re: [Vo]:Rossi e-cat catalyzer, Gamma rays

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 14.09.2011 08:20, schrieb Peter Heckert: As soon as it is totally and unmistakenly clear, this is a nuclear reaction that produces large amounts of energy, law will stop him. And international scientific research will start. You cannot discover the stone of philosophers and commercialize

Re: [Vo]:Rossi e-cat catalyzer, Gamma rays

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 14.09.2011 10:08, schrieb Horace Heffner: It is not possible to put enough lead in the device to suppress the 1.33 MeV gammas from cobalt to even a non-lethal level - provided there is enough cobalt to sustain a 15 kW reaction at one gamma per LENR reaction. Yes this is correct. But

Re: [Vo]:E-cat news at Nyteknik

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Heckert
Bologna April 19, 2011 Weight hydrogen bottle (attached, opened, closed, and detached): - before: 13653.1 grams - after: 13652.6 grams Total loaded: 0.5 grams Pressure H2 Bottle: 85 bar Reduced: 25 bar Bologna April 28, 2011 Weight hydrogen bottle (attached, opened, closed, and detached): -

Re: [Vo]:logical jiu-jitsu, continuation

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 14.09.2011 07:08, schrieb Peter Gluck: The 1 MW plant with 333 cats meowing in a chorus is a blasphemy against the Goddess of Engineering who demands simple but reliable tests with individual E-cats, according to the very logic of the things and to the pragmatical common sense. Many

Re: [Vo]:E-cat news at Nyteknik

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 14.09.2011 08:55, schrieb Peter Gluck: a) See the E-cat run in the self sustaining mode http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3264362.ece Here my Analysis: At the end, when the water input valve is opened, then a mixture out of water and steam comes out with

Re: [Vo]:The pump was left running during the self-sustaining event

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 14.09.2011 21:09, schrieb Jed Rothwell: I wrote: I do not see what you mean. (I don't hear what you mean.) In the video, starting around 5:00 they turn off the power. I hear the pump still running. I mean the video minute 5, which occurred at 23:10 real-time. The pump sound

Re: [Vo]:E-cat news at Nyteknik

2011-09-15 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 14.09.2011 22:31, schrieb Horace Heffner: Sticking the one and only output measuring thermometer down inside the device is still as useless as ever for calorimetry purposes. It likely is directly heated by its metal surroundings. The water pulsing out of the device is clearly not 130°C.

[Vo]:Simply using the facts on Rossis new e-cat and nothing else

2011-09-15 Thread Peter Heckert
They did change the measuring method and Im surprised, this are very clever changes: 1) The output hose has thermal isolation now. Also the hose is shorter. So the hose cannot loose (much) thermal energy. Therefore it is possible to measure the /total/ energy at the end of the hose. 2) The

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat

2011-09-15 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 15.09.2011 21:02, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com mailto:sa...@pobox.com wrote: My concern is actually rather different. My concern is that I suspect he knows perfectly well what the flaws were in his analysis, and realizes that the steam wasn't dry.

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat

2011-09-15 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 15.09.2011 21:31, schrieb Jed Rothwell: If as you say the heat does not balance no doubt that is because the machine radiates a great deal and this is not accounted for. The machine is insulated but no insulation is perfect. The insulation is more perfect than this insulation that I have

Re: [Vo]:E-cat news at Nyteknik

2011-09-15 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 15.09.2011 21:48, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Sep 15, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: Am 14.09.2011 22:31, schrieb Horace Heffner: Sticking the one and only output measuring thermometer down inside the device is still as useless as ever for calorimetry purposes. It likely

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Heckert
I think the problem is, that you look too much at unimportant information. First we must decide which of the information is imortant and which is unimportant. Also we must see if there is any important information missing. (This is the most difficult part) If nothing is missing, then we have

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 16.09.2011 21:10, schrieb Alan J Fletcher: Lewan told me that Rossi insists that there are no internal obstructions to the outlet which would cause the internal pressure to be significantly above 1 atmosphere. If that is true, then superheating is the only alternative. Quite often Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 16.09.2011 21:20, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 16.09.2011 21:10, schrieb Alan J Fletcher: Lewan told me that Rossi insists that there are no internal obstructions to the outlet which would cause the internal pressure to be significantly above 1 atmosphere. If that is true, then superheating

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam : Pressure drop

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 16.09.2011 22:13, schrieb Alan J Fletcher: At 12:26 PM 9/16/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: To maintain an internal pressure of 3 Bar (needed for 130C) you'd need a pretty small orifice : less than 1/32 inch ?. http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/steam-flow-orifices-d_1158.html (Unfortunately,

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam : Pressure drop

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 16.09.2011 23:25, schrieb Alan J Fletcher: At 01:13 PM 9/16/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: I'm still looking for the 'orifice' needed to create 3 Bar internal pressure. Napier's formula (accurate to about 3%) for steam going through an orifice in a flat plate, to atmospheric pressure. W

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam

2011-09-16 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 16.09.2011 23:52, schrieb Alan J Fletcher: That's super-heating. So to confirm Rossi's statements (130C, 1 Bar Pressure, No restrictor orifice, No direct fluid overflow) we would need to show that 130C (or maybe 120C) superheated steam (ie NO liquid water) at 11 kg/hr will condense to

Re: [Vo]:130C steam : Lotsa Rossi Updates, Running out of Cash?

2011-09-17 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 17.09.2011 02:05, schrieb Terry Blanton: Exactly the suggestion I made in March, duplicating Naudin's Moller's Atomic Hydrogen Generator (MAHG) setup: http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/index.htm sigh T Hey, this looks interesting! I do however not believe the ZPE theory. I dont think energy

[Vo]:Rossi 1MW plant in a small box - active cooling required?

2011-09-17 Thread Peter Heckert
Hello, I think Rossis 1MW box would need active cooling or ventilation inside. Ok, the ecats are thermal isolated, but as repeatedly stated by Rossi and others, no isolation is perfect. Just watch Rossis Krivit-demonstration. When he touches the isolated surface he pulls back his fingers fast,

Re: [Vo]:130C steam : Lotsa Rossi Updates, Running out of Cash?

2011-09-17 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 17.09.2011 10:05, schrieb Peter Heckert: Am 17.09.2011 02:05, schrieb Terry Blanton: Exactly the suggestion I made in March, duplicating Naudin's Moller's Atomic Hydrogen Generator (MAHG) setup: http://jlnlabs.online.fr/mahg/index.htm sigh T Hey, this looks interesting! I do however

[Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Heckert
http://jnaudin.free.fr/steorn/indexen.htm I think, this is easy to debunk. They say, they have a toroidal magnet. An ideal toroidal magnet has no external field and so there can be no back electromagnetic force. Now this is untrue. In this magical moment, where the permanent magnet passes by

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi Walter! Am 18.09.2011 14:04, schrieb Walter Eager: Regarding your Debunking of Steorn You have some great theory my friend. It sure makes a lot of sense, and I do agree with some of what you are saying (because it makes sense). Just one thing. Have you actually tested your theory? No. I do

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 18.09.2011 17:25, schrieb OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson: From Catania, ... As I've said before I think thermal inertia neatly explains it all. I don't know of anyone who was not disappointed in the abrupt ending of the experiment, after input power had been turned off. Yeah, yeah,

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 18.09.2011 19:03, schrieb OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson: From Peter: ... Also it shows us, the experiment still cannot run unattended. As far as speculation goes, I find myself in sympathy with such speculation. What I find interesting about such speculation is that it suggests to me

Re: [Vo]:The September E-Cat

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 18.09.2011 19:26, schrieb Peter Heckert: Yes, Rossi repeatedly said selfsustained mode is unstable it can runaway. Therefore now he runs it selfsustained only for 50% of time now. Thats what he says. He must have done experiments for this. He has Labview on his computer. So I would think he

[Vo]:Calulations for 1 MW plant.

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Heckert
I did some plausibility calculations for Rossis 1 MW plant. Thermal Energy of saturated steam @1bar, @100 centigrade = 2675 J/g (taken from an industrial steam table) 10^6 J*s^-1 / 2675 (J/g) = 374 g/s. Volume of steam = 1.7l / g So steamflow = 636 l/s = 636 cm^3 / s If the crosssectional

Re: [Vo]:Calulations for 1 MW plant.

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 18.09.2011 21:19, schrieb Peter Heckert: So steamflow = 636 l/s = 636 cm^3 / s If the crosssectional area of the output pipe is 10^2 cm, then the steam speed is 6.36 m/s. Oops immediately after posting I found an error ;-) 1l = 1000 cm^3 636000 cm^3/s / 100 cm^2 = 6360 cm/s = 63.6 m

Re: [Vo]:Calulations for 1 MW plant.

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 18.09.2011 23:22, schrieb Horace Heffner: Assume the condensed water is being fed back at 100°C. The energy to vaporize water at 100°C is 2260 J/g. If 1 MW is heating 100°C water then I estimate the flow has to be 442.5 gm/s, with a volumetric flow of 737.5 liters/sec. This gives a flow

Re: [Vo]:Calulations for 1 MW plant.

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.09.2011 05:28, schrieb Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint: Peter wrote: So steam speed is about 64 m/s if the pipe diameter is 10^2 cm. A pipe diameter of 100cm is one heck of a big pipe! I think you mean cross-sectional area? Correction: So steam speed is about 64 m/s if the pipe cross sectional

Re: [Vo]:Thoughts on the eCat and 130C steam

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 16.09.2011 21:26, schrieb Alan J Fletcher: At 11:57 AM 9/16/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: The important information is: There is no superheated steam because inside the ecat is everything almost at boiling temperature. For superheated steam you need an extra heater that heats the steam

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.09.2011 17:10, schrieb Ron Wormus: Peter, As far as I can see Naudin has never tried an experiment that did not work for him. His MAHG power measurements are in error (which has been pointed out to him). I did not analyze his power measurements. It is clear to me that an error with

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.09.2011 19:30, schrieb Esa Ruoho: The next step for Steorn may be when a client licenses one of their technologies and produces a working product. ;-)

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.09.2011 20:21, schrieb Robert Leguillon: My Two Cents-- I must confess that I'm unfamiliar with the effect of electromagnetism on conductive heating. I thought that I'd throw out a few questions regarding the observations of the 4th paper, hoping to learn: You must first kow, it is

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.09.2011 22:22, schrieb Joe Catania: I'm not going to take it on faith about the AC power being less than DC. I've done these types of calculations before and I can tell you they are not simple. It is simple. The simplest way to calculate such problems is to use the law of enery

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-19 Thread Peter Heckert
the paper? Tell me the price. Best, Peter - Original Message - *From:* Peter Heckert mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2011 4:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo Am 19.09.2011 22

Re: [Vo]:Debunking Steorn Orbo

2011-09-20 Thread Peter Heckert
. This is a known property of the harmonic series (1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4...) which also diverges and is related tothe sawtooth Fourier components. Where is the paper mentioned? - Original Message - *From:* Peter Heckert mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:Calulations for 1 MW plant.

2011-09-20 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.09.2011 20:38, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Peter Heckert wrote: In all demonstrations, January demo, Essen Kulander demo, 3 Ny Teknik demos, the electrical input energy was not enough to heat the water to 100° Celsius. (I dont know aout the Krivit demo

Re: [Vo]:Calulations for 1 MW plant.

2011-09-20 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.09.2011 21:31, schrieb Jouni Valkonen: But I have several times told to Horace if he bothered to look up the report and see the data by himself, but he have refused to even look the data available. This kind of attitude is very sad from him. –Jouni Maybe not everybody has the time. I

Re: [Vo]:Calulations for 1 MW plant.

2011-09-20 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.09.2011 21:51, schrieb Joe Catania: They state there is an auxillary heater. Yes but they examined all cables and even lifted the devices to see whats below and I think this extra heater was connected to the blue control box where they measured the input current. If not, then they

Re: [Vo]:Calulations for 1 MW plant.

2011-09-20 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.09.2011 22:19, schrieb Joe Catania: Still I'm not convinced that those tests you mentioned weren't exactly like the September test. Why shouldn't they be? I dont want to convince anybody. I still have doubts myself. Im just pointing to remarkable aspects that was mostly overseen in

Re: [Vo]:Calulations for 1 MW plant.

2011-09-20 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 20.09.2011 22:55, schrieb Jouni Valkonen: 2011/9/20 Peter Heckertpeter.heck...@arcor.de: I have never understood why do they treat the water and steam system as a secret. Why dont they open up the chimney to look inside. With this big 80 kg box my doubts are even increased. Least thing

Re: [Vo]:stopping

2011-09-20 Thread Peter Heckert
Best wishes for you! Am 20.09.2011 23:24, schrieb Horace Heffner: I have just lost about 50% (left side) of my left eye. It may be a retinal detachment. It seems to be coming back. I may not respond for a bit. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Aw: Re: [Vo]:stopping

2011-09-21 Thread peter . heckert
You should see a doctor as soon as possible. Regardless if this is a stroke or a retina problem, with these problems the chance is much better when it is recognized and treated early. In both cases a delay of hours can be fatal. So far I know they can fix the retina with laser nowadays, but

[Vo]:Rossi reactor ready for market?

2011-09-21 Thread peter . heckert
Comparison to my gas-boiler: My gas boiler has 10 kW heating power. If I need boiling hot water then I get it after 30 seconds. It switches on immediately and switches off immediately when not needed. Also in winter it will not produce 10 kW heat 24/7. It runs only part-time. Service costs and

Re: [Vo]:Rossi reactor ready for market?

2011-09-21 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 21.09.2011 19:37, schrieb Jouni Valkonen: Peter, Most of the high cost is due that it is very expensive and inefficient to produce electricity, especially in small scale. Indeed, it is $2000 per installed kWe of course. It does refer into produced electricity, not heat. This is quite typical

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Review of Travel report by Hanno Essén and Sven Kullander, 3 April 2011

2011-09-21 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 22.09.2011 02:18, schrieb Horace Heffner: FIG. 4 NOTES It is notable the 2 cm of lead is not evident. The insulation looks more like a polyester than fiberglass, and if so its melting temperature is around 250°C. It could be silicone.

Re: [Vo]:Review of Travel report by Hanno Essén and Sven Kullander, 3 April 2011

2011-09-21 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 22.09.2011 05:51, schrieb Alan Fletcher: That presumes that the heat exchange takes place on the surface of the core. But the heat is (supposedly) produced by thermalization of gamma rays, which could be anywhere nearby. Rossi has said that it is partly in the copper tubing and partly in

Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 22.09.2011 14:32 Betreff: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe Jed Rothwell wrote: » In the first test, Galantini used a Delta Ohm monitor to measure the relative

Aw: Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-22 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 22.09.2011 15:53 Betreff: Re: Aw: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Now what happens, when an inventor without deep knowledge

Re: [Vo]: Rossi sells home to finance demo

2011-09-22 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 22.09.2011 17:44, schrieb Mattia Rizzi: Wait a minute. 2011/9/22 Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net mailto:zeropo...@charter.net If this whole thing is a scam, AND the below info is true, then this just doesn't make sense... Rossi's Home Sacrificed for Cold

Re: [Vo]: Rossi sells home to finance demo

2011-09-22 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 22.09.2011 18:10, schrieb OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson: To continue speculating that Rossi is a scam artist is absurd. Unfortunately it is not absurd, because nobody knows which of all these absurd reports are true. If he gets paid for the 1 MW plant soon then he does not need to sell his

Re: [Vo]: Rossi sells home to finance demo

2011-09-22 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 22.09.2011 19:32, schrieb OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson: From Peter Heckert Unfortunately it is not absurd, because nobody knows which of all these absurd reports are true. It's not clear to me what the specific point it is you're trying to make. There is no specific point. Anything

Re: [Vo]: Rossi sells home to finance demo

2011-09-22 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 22.09.2011 20:45, schrieb OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson: From Peter: There is no specific point. Anything that is reported about Rossi and his e-cat is absurd and nobody is able to know what is true and what not. Rossi is mercurial. It's not always wise to shoot the messenger. There

Re: [Vo]: Rossi sells home to finance demo

2011-09-22 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 22.09.2011 21:39, schrieb Alan J Fletcher: At 12:18 PM 9/22/2011, Peter Heckert wrote: Fit a transparent silicone rubber hose to this steam outlet, so we can see the water overflow and remove all doubts. He sort-of did this for Lewan's September demo. The white section at the outlet has

Re: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-23 Thread Peter Heckert
Hi Jed, On Sep 22, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: However, experts skilled in the art have said that Galantini's methods are correct. Did Galantini know whats inside the tower? Did these experts know whats inside? Did the experts get true and complete detail informations? Did they

Re: [Vo]:About measurement of steam with Galantini probe

2011-09-23 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 23.09.2011 23:29, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de mailto:peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: However, experts skilled in the art have said that Galantini's methods are correct. Did Galantini know whats inside the tower? Did

Re: [Vo]:Hypothesis explaining FTL neutrinos

2011-09-24 Thread Peter Heckert
Years ago there was a theory of Professor Günter Nimtz at university Kölln Germany. He had the theory (basing on experimental data) that Light has infinite speed inside Tunnel Effect regions. He made measurements and presented an Experiment where a Mozart Symphony was transmitted over short

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