Re: [Wikidata-l] datawikis?

2012-04-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, First things first ... that is getting Wikidata to work for its initial purposes. Automated updates from elsewhere are nice but introduce a complete new set of issues including reliability. Thanks, Gerard On 9 April 2012 03:25, JFC Morfin jef...@jefsey.com wrote: Is there an objection

Re: [Wikidata-l] list for bug emails

2012-04-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The Wikidata project is probably the software used by OmegaWiki, the original Wikidata. Thanks, Gerard On 14 April 2012 16:12, Jeroen De Dauw jeroended...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, Wikidata WikidataClient WikidataRepo Although the project is called WikiData, the software is called

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata efforts for wiktionaries

2012-05-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Have a look at OmegaWiki.. It is the grand daddy of such projects and it is what Wikidata can aspire to. Thanks, Gerard On 8 May 2012 21:38, Sébastien Druon druon.sebast...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! Are their also wikidata efforts to give structure to wiktionaries? Do someone have

Re: [Wikidata-l] SMW and Wikidata

2012-06-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, There are several points WHY a centrally administered info box makes sense. The most important one can be found in what the Wikimedia Foundation aims to achieve: Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge [1

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Transclusions

2012-06-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Technically there is nothing stopping Wikidata from hosting multiple infoboxes on the same subject. The big thing about such infoboxes is that their layout is the same for all subjects in the same category. This does not mean that every one looks the same but it does mean they follow a

Re: [Wikidata-l] changing wikidata-item properties with multilingual labels

2012-08-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It being a database you will find that someone in Germany will take care of a new mayor in German places and determines for every wiki using the same instance of that person and consequently such relations are implicitly available. When people choose NOT to use the benefits of a database, on

Re: [Wikidata-l] language switching turned off for anonymous users

2012-11-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It probably is another bug ... *Bug 42064*https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42064 - Make AbuseFilter aware of Wikibase content models. is not applicable Thanks, Gerard On 16 November 2012 12:07, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.dewrote: Heya folks, We

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata-l Digest, Vol 14, Issue 9

2013-01-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Expanding to the full name of a language eh, do I speak Dutch, Niederlandisch or Nederlands ? And when I speak all those languages, how do I get all the different names for the language that I recognise as my mother tongue ? Thanks, Gerard On 10 January 2013 13:06,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Multilingual categories on Wikimedia Commons

2013-01-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Several years ago there was a working prototype developed to do exactly that. It is lexical in nature and it did include the interwiki links. It should not be that hard to build upon Wikidata to achieve something similar... It is called omegawiki. Thanks, GerardM On 20 January 2013

Re: [Wikidata-l] Multilingual categories on Wikimedia Commons

2013-01-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The one thing that is necessary is to have translations for the category. When an image uses a particular category it shows the translations conform a setting somewhere.. Having the files and their descriptions is a lot more complicated. Just consider, people select an image by its looks..

Re: [Wikidata-l] Complaint about the partial Phase II deployment

2013-02-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When Commons started, you could not use pictures from Commons on any Wiki. There are advantages to provide functionality once it is available. It allow for it to grow into its own being. When you provide functionality all in one go, it will take much longer to get anything at all and there

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

2013-03-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If there is one thing that would be extremely powerful, it would be combining lexical information with Commons. I presented about this in Alexandria at Wikimania and, it is still true. It makes sense to allow people to search for a paard or a cheval or a

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikimedia-l] Are there plans for interactions between wikidata and wiktionaries ?

2013-03-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There is no point at all in maintaining the software currently used by OmegaWiki. That would be foolish. Nobody who knows OmegaWiki will ask for that. What we are asking for is that we ensure that the structures that exist in OmegaWiki are replicated in Wikidata for reasons that are clear

Re: [Wikidata-l] Expiration date for data

2013-03-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The qualifiers, would that be something like ... if the language is English, the string can be a noun, a verb, an adjective When the sting is a Dutch noun, it can be masculine, feminine or neuter ?? When a qualifier allows for such constructs, we are halfway there to implementing a

Re: [Wikidata-l] Creating an item from another item

2013-05-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Typically when you want to do this, you are working on info-boxes. The assumption should be that those info boxes are the same for a certain category of subjects (eg all the emirs of Cordoba). An Emir of Cordoba belongs to Noble family Emirate of Cordoba and many of the associated fields could be

Re: [Wikidata-l] accepted GSoC proposals

2013-05-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Where can I read about the DBpedia Wikidata project ? Thanks, GerardM On 27 May 2013 23:40, Hady elsahar hadyelsa...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All , i'm Hady , i'll be working on the project DBpedia + WikiData , i'm very excited to start !! :) indeed it would be an awesome summer

Re: [Wikidata-l] Proposed guidelines for sourcing statements

2013-06-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have been thinking about requirements like any assertion must be sourced. I think they will kill much of the embryonic community Wikidata has. When people of any Wikipedia want to make sure that the data of Wikidata contains sources to assertions, they are welcome to add them. Requiring

Re: [Wikidata-l] Proposed guidelines for sourcing statements

2013-06-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
it is a good idea to replicate what they do. Cheers, Micru On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I have been thinking about requirements like any assertion must be sourced. I think they will kill much of the embryonic community Wikidata

Re: [Wikidata-l] Proposed guidelines for sourcing statements

2013-06-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
is not sourced. On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, In my opinion is Wikidata a collection of assertions. By providing sources respectability is provided to assertions it does however not provide certainty to what is asserted and consequently

Re: [Wikidata-l] Some Wiktionary data in Wikidata

2013-06-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Denny, when you look at the data currently in Wikidata, you find what is in essence more than a basis for a translation dictionary. The notion that we need something separate is a notion you should reasses. What we need is some clean-up of the labels currently in use. What we also need are

Re: [Wikidata-l] A solution with finality is needed for P107 - maintype (GND)

2013-07-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The reason why it is NOT good enough and what you fail to understand is that this is NOT an attribute that we should morph into something else. Its name makes it clear: main type (GND) this implies that the definition and its values are external to Wikidata; they are the definition as per the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Accelerating software innovation with Wikidata and improved Wikicode

2013-07-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi Michael, The one thing that makes it easy for you is that you speak English. For other languages there are not the same amount and diversity of resources. While I have my reservations about the feasibility of what Scott proposes, his proposal is for all the Wikipedia languages and then some.

Re: [Wikidata-l] A short hello

2013-07-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi Saskia, You will have a good time comparing all the apples and oranges. If you care for more information about OmegaWiki and why we think it is possible to include this project in Wikidata you may find the arguments are great. If you do not, please contact me or Kipcool. Thanks, Gerard

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wiktionary-l] Meeting about the support of Wiktionary in Wikidata

2013-08-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Would be interested but I am not there ... As are many other people ... Thanks, GerardM On 9 August 2013 06:43, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: wiktionar...@lists.wikimedia.orgHi, If there is someone in Wikimania interested in participating in the talks about the future support

Re: [Wikidata-l] Make Commons a wikidata client

2013-08-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There is a lot of data that already fits perfectly well in Wikidata. There is one thing that should become absolutely clear. Wikidata is a project in its own right and Wikipedia is only linked through its interwiki links. The relevance is that there will be an increasing number of Wikidata

Re: [Wikidata-l] Scope of a Wikidata entry

2013-08-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When an item is a member of a list, the item is likely to be written differently dependent on the language and script. When there is a free-text referral, it loses its flexibility ... eg 靈高史達 is a member of the Beatles grin obviously /grin Thanks, Gerard On 12 August 2013 11:44,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Make Commons a wikidata client

2013-08-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As far as I am concerned, the categories used for images are not really helpful , While there are many images about Kiribati, you find only a few in the category by that name. The rest can be found in subcategories. In the proposal for Commons there is a provision for tags. These tags can

Re: [Wikidata-l] Make Commons a wikidata client

2013-08-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If anything Wikidata has replaced the interwiki links for both Wikipedia and Wikivoyage. Wikidata DOES allow links to images on Commons and Commons categories already. In Commons it is known where images are used. There is no way in which it is wise to abandon all that. Once Wikidata

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-08-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have been blogging a lot the last two days with DBpedia in mind. My understanding is that at DBpedia a lot of effort went into making something of a cohesive model of properties. Now that the main type GND is about to be deleted, it makes sense to adopt much of the work that has been done

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-08-23 Thread Gerard Meijssen
, Tom Morris tfmor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: I have been blogging a lot the last two days with DBpedia in mind. My understanding is that at DBpedia a lot of effort went into making something of a cohesive model

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-08-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-tech/2013-August/000189.html On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 6:18 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I will answer with questions with more questions... On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-08-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
at the same time /grin Thanks, GerardM On 26 August 2013 15:27, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 8/26/13 4:34 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Two things to consider; the Wikipedia community and the Wikidata community are two separate entities. As far as I am concerned

Re: [Wikidata-l] Coursera course on information and metadata

2013-09-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, is this a course that you have to follow at a prescribed time ? I do not find any such information.. Thanks, Gerard 2013/9/2 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de Heya folks :) Today a course on Coursera started that might be interesting to some of you:

Re: [Wikidata-l] 'Person' or 'human', upper ontologies and migrating 4 million claims

2013-09-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you read about upper ontologies, it says that the answer is highly political. We have already suffered the pain of using the DNB library system. For all our items with a GND identifier we can lookup what the main type (GND) is. We have identifiers to many external sources and for all

Re: [Wikidata-l] Cooperation between Wikidata and DBpedia and Wikipedia

2013-09-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
experience in so many places. Thanks, GerardM On 26 August 2013 17:36, Kingsley Idehen kide...@openlinksw.com wrote: On 8/26/13 10:44 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: I do know how much the DBpedia people want to reach out and connect in any positive way with both Wikipedia and Wikidata. I have

[Wikidata-l] Interview Lydia

2013-10-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am happy that Lydia answered some questions ... I hope you will enjoy them as much as I did. Thanks, GerardM http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/10/10-wikidata-questions-for-lydia.html ___ Wikidata-l mailing list

[Wikidata-l] Really interesting blog post

2013-10-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The new blog post about VIAF is really interesting.. It has many implications so please, as far as I am concerned this is a must read.. http://journal.code4lib.org/articles/8964 Thanks, Gerard ___ Wikidata-l mailing list

Re: [Wikidata-l] Is Wikidata VIAF data being used in Wikipedia?

2013-10-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Tom, On the Occitan Wikipedia they indicate the VIAF (and other) identifiers are shown from Wikidata. When a new identifier is added, this new identifier will be shown as well. When it is changed it is changed as well. When information in both Wikidata and Wikipedia is the same, it would be good

Re: [Wikidata-l] Is Wikidata VIAF data being used in Wikipedia?

2013-10-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
16, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Tom, On the Occitan Wikipedia they indicate the VIAF (and other) identifiers are shown from Wikidata. When a new identifier is added, this new identifier will be shown as well. When it is changed it is changed as well

[Wikidata-l] Statistics

2013-10-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I do not know if you have seen the statistics compiled by Magnus [1]. They are up to date and useful. I blogged about it [2]. As far as I am concerned, the biggest challenge we face is the lack of labels. Given that 280+ languages are represented in Wikidata it clearly demonstrates that

[Wikidata-l] labels for Wikidata items

2013-10-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Is there a bot to add labels to Wikidata ? It seems that the majority of the Wikidata items have only one label. To be useful, to be available to search, it is imperative that a label exists. The obvious value is the name of the Wikipedia article. It is better to have that as a label than

Re: [Wikidata-l] Statistics

2013-10-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
/wikdata-needs-378000-labels.html On 18 October 2013 22:27, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.dewrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I do not know if you have seen the statistics compiled by Magnus [1]. They are up

Re: [Wikidata-l] References

2013-10-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
://lukas.benedix.de/wikidata/stats/ Lukas Am Fr 18.10.2013 07:26, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, I do not know if you have seen the statistics compiled by Magnus [1]. They are up to date and useful. I blogged about it [2]. As far as I am concerned, the biggest challenge we face is the lack

Re: [Wikidata-l] Happy Birthday, Wikidata!

2013-10-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2013/10/wikidata-hip-hip-hurray.html Thanks, GerardM On 29 October 2013 00:59, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.dewrote: Heya everyone! Today is Wikidata's first birthday. One year ago Q1 was created. This is time for a lot of

Re: [Wikidata-l] Questions about statement qualifiers

2013-10-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The head of state is defined on the state involved.. the head of state is ... the prime minister of Japan. When Mr Abe is the current prime minister, you add office held Prime minister of Japan on his item and you can embelish it with the start date, the predecessor. For previous prime

Re: [Wikidata-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is very similar in content as the Commons Creator and Institution namespaces Thanks, Gerard On 2 November 2013 16:30, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.dewrote: Hey everyone, The next sister project to get language links via Wikidata is Wikisource. We're currently

Re: [Wikidata-l] classes and qualifiers

2013-11-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The good news is that the interwiki tangles are a big improvement over what we had. Now there is clarity when an interwiki is wrong. There is one place where to solve it and when solved, it is solved for all linked Wikipedias. The problem I have with all the ontology issues is that they are

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikisource-l] next sister project: Wikisource

2013-11-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This makes perfect sense because Wikidata WANTS to use this information as the source for statements. Thanks, GerardM On 6 November 2013 02:12, billinghurst billinghu...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 17:27:02 +0100, Andrea Zanni zanni.andre...@gmail.com wrote: About this:

[Wikidata-l] Search in Wikipedia AND Wikidata thanks to Magnus

2013-11-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Wikidata supports many more items than any Wikipedia has articles and as our objective is to share in the sum of all knowledge, it is obvious that Wikidata has added value. Thanks to the latest hack by Magnus, it is now possible to include Wikidata in your search result. I blogged about

Re: [Wikidata-l] Clearly define {{#property: }} parser function

2013-11-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi Remember that the stings need to be identifief for their language and by implication script. They can be a mix and match from multiple languages.. Thanks, GerardM Op 8 nov. 2013 09:13 schreef Liangent liang...@gmail.com: Hello, I submitted bug 56763[1] just now, then realized that

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata-Freebase mappings published under CC0

2013-11-11 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If I understand you well, what you propose is adding links that are similar to what we already do to VIAF and so many others. Using data from Freebase is a tantalising option. Is there agreement and a license that allows for this? Thanks, GerardM Op 11 nov. 2013 19:35 schreef Denny

Re: [Wikidata-l] default support for languages

2013-11-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
a 'languages' tab to the user settings. That is where users expect to set their UI preferences. Let us tick boxes for as many 'additional languages' as we want. On 12 Nov 2013 11:05, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, At this moment, it seems like a secret that you need to add

Re: [Wikidata-l] Embedding voice samples in Wikidata

2013-11-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Wikidata is patient. It can hold a lot of data. We hold more references to external that we objectively need to. We can include these sources and they are intended as snippets of text that identify what people sound like. That is enough in my opinion. It does provided something extra.We also

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Design] Reasonator

2013-11-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you like a reasonator guitar, you will like what the Reasonator has to say about it [1].. Thanks, GerardM [1] http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=Q1051615 On 21 November 2013 00:49, Jonathan Morgan jmor...@wikimedia.org wrote: For those who love both beautiful instruments

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Design] Reasonator

2013-11-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, At this time the Reasonator has specific functionality for people, organisms and places.there are many ways it can be improved. It can even become a layer on top of Wikidata with proper caching and all the works that make it perform for the world. Currently it runs on the toolserver.. The

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Design] Reasonator

2013-11-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
2013 12:59, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.comwrote: Hoi, At this time the Reasonator has specific functionality for people, organisms and places.there are many ways it can be improved. It can even become a layer on top of Wikidata with proper caching and all the works that make

Re: [Wikidata-l] How are queries doing?

2013-11-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Please understand that providing functionality like query is something that has to fit into a continuously live environment. This is an environment where the Wikidata functionality is used all the time and where some of the underlying functionality is changed as well. The Wikidata development

Re: [Wikidata-l] Collaboration with scholarly resources?

2013-12-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, FYI Omegawiki.org was originally used for bio-informatics. It included many things that Wikidata does not support yet. The people behind it still exist, they published about it. They might be still interested if support for science fact and micro-publications is something that we would

[Wikidata-l] searching for images

2013-12-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi Maria, At the time I promised you to write something about how you can search for images in languages like Guarani. I finally do but many things have changed for the better making it so much easier. What has changed is that we can now provide different functionalities as a result of a

[Wikidata-l] Wikidata labels

2013-12-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am looking for people who are willing to spend 2 hours adding labels to wikidata in the languages of India and, in their own language. For several languages it will be possible to add 1% more labels in that time. Typically every Wikipedia article has a link to Wikidata. What I want to

Re: [Wikidata-l] How to know The List that all the data sources Connected Through Wikidata

2013-12-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The number of data sources is something that grows all the time. The list can be found here [1]. Search for VIAF for instance and you will find them all together. I blogged about the connectivity of Wikidata recently [2]. I would love to know more of how you want to approach the many

Re: [Wikidata-l] How are queries doing?

2014-01-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I agree that the integration of Wikidata in all the different Wikipedias, Wikivoyages, Wikisources, Wiktionaries and Commons is the most important objective. It is so important because this ensures that the data will be actually used. We are doing fine I think. However, not all the quirks of

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #94

2014-01-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, For your amusement, I was working on a blogpost of my own as a result of what I read.. You may get it in a feed reader or alternatively you can read it here [1] Thanks, Gerard [1] http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2014/01/wikidata-weekly-summary-94.html On 25 January 2014 16:53,

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #94

2014-01-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I do agree with Amir. It would be convenient to receive the updates in my feed reader. Thanks, Gerard On 28 January 2014 07:39, Tom Morris tfmor...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: These updates look a lot like

[Wikidata-l] RFC for a DBpedia import process

2014-02-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have been to the DBpedia conference in Amsterdam. They want to work with us in making the data in both DBpedia and Wikidata as good as we can make it. I have written an RFC [2] where I ask for comments on a proposed process for both the identification of differences between the

Re: [Wikidata-l] Thiemo joins the dev team \o/

2014-02-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Have fun and, make a difference :) Thanks, GerardM On 5 February 2014 16:07, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.dewrote: Hey everyone :) I'm really happy to let you know that we have another addition to Wikimedia Germany's software development department. Thiemo is a

[Wikidata-l] Generated texts

2014-02-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, We have often had discussions about generating texts to be used in Wikipedia articles. The drawback of articles that are generated in this way is that they do not get updated as more information becomes available. The data in Wikidata is comparable with the kind of data often used in such

[Wikidata-l] Adding labels in your language in Wikidata

2014-02-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When the information in Wikidata is to be useful, there have to be labels for the items that are on display in Wikidata. In the Reasonator, the tool that visualises the information from Wikidata, we always show you a label in a language. It is possible to set your babel information to ensure

Re: [Wikidata-l] Meta header for asserting that a web page is about a Wikidata subject

2014-02-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Every Wikipedia, Wikivoyage, Wikisource and Commons article has an indicator that there is a Wikidata item associated with it already. It is part of the tools in the sidebar. Or are you talking about web pages external to the WMF? Thanks, GerardM On 26 February 2014 14:20, Andy

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata pages linked to this item

2014-03-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I do need to include the URL http://tools.wmflabs.org/reasonator/?q=Q2874 On 4 March 2014 15:04, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, The Reasonator will also show you this information [1]. What Reasonator does is show the information that exists in Wikidata's data

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata pages linked to this item

2014-03-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The Reasonator will also show you this information [1]. What Reasonator does is show the information that exists in Wikidata's data. Thanks, GerardM NB given the current problems with backups and replication it may be that the data does not show within 10 minutes.. I hope these issues

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
2014 17:07, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: Am 06.03.2014 16:27, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, I hope this will be revisited. Many items change there name and dependent on a date they or it are called differently. If the name is something that is changed, debated

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
. It is arguably wrong. Thanks, GerardM On 6 March 2014 17:15, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: Am 06.03.2014 17:12, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, So how do I indicate that up to a particular date Jakarta was called Batavia ? Muhammed Ali was called Cassius Clay

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What the RFC is about is actually quite simple. It states that the content of most of the lists and categories can be expressed as queries. So when an item is an instance of Wikimedia list article or Wikimedia category page it can be complemented by an is a list of property. For examples, [1]

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
from when to when they were used. Queries can then some day use this information and display it within the context of a specific query. But that is not what Wikidata labels are there for. I hope that makes sense. On Fri Mar 07 2014 at 12:01:32 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com

Re: [Wikidata-l] Making Wikidata entries at the time of 'Article for Creation' publication

2014-03-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You have it backwards, in my opinion at least. When someone is notable enough for a Wikipedia article, create a Wikidata item and include all the pertinent information for that person. You may even be surprised in finding that the person already exists. There are many people from the USA or

Re: [Wikidata-l] rank related changes

2014-03-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Omegawiki. Thanks, GerardM [1] A defective https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/defective or inadequatehttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/inadequateitem. On 10 March 2014 14:03, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Wikidata-l] New introductory article on Wikidata

2014-03-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, If you have not done so, it is well worth a read. It has details that I have seen for the first time. Thanks, GerardM On 11 March 2014 18:42, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.orgwrote: Dear all, Denny and I are happy to report that our first general overview article on

Re: [Wikidata-l] Making Wikidata entries at the time of 'Article for Creation' publication

2014-03-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In my opinion the notability rules for Wikidata need to change. I have created an RFC to reflect this [1]. Thanks, GerardM [1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Notability_%26_early_creation_of_Wikidata_items On 11 March 2014 12:36, Joe Filceolaire

Re: [Wikidata-l] What's up with our incremental (daily) dumps?

2014-03-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Hopefully next week some time .. There is a bug for it ... Thanks, GerardM On 13 March 2014 17:40, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.orgwrote: On 13/03/14 17:14, Katie Filbert wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Markus Krötzsch mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org

[Wikidata-l] Maps based on Wikidata data

2014-03-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In the latest iteration of the Reasonator, you will find the option to see what items exist in a radius of 15 km around the current item. Obviously, you will find only those items that have a geo-coordinate. There are however many of them :) They are everything from cities to amusement parks

[Wikidata-l] Wikidata and GLAM

2014-03-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Next month I will be presenting a half a day meeting in the Netherlands for a big GLAM partner. This presentation will likely be repeated for other GLAMs in the Netherlands at a later date. I have a tentative program for half a day. I will present about Wikidata, I will show information that

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata for organizing 1000s of extensions in mediawiki.org?

2014-03-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I would seriously consider this for two reasons. Yes, we can include this kind of information, obviously. It is worthwhile information so that is one. The most important reason why I want to seriously have this information is because the audience we gain. It is the developers of MediaWiki.

Re: [Wikidata-l] [OHM] Should we map former endonyms?

2014-03-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, It is in the planning that Wikidata will use its engine for Wikimedia Commons. We are talking about the media files that is currently only 20,503,455 freely usable media files. The model that is considered is one where two Wikidata databases will be used. One for the meta data of the imagery

Re: [Wikidata-l] [OHM] Should we map former endonyms?

2014-03-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Given that we want to collaborate with openstreetmap we could host it for them Thanks GerardM Op 20 mrt. 2014 11:53 schreef David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com: On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: A similar thing can be considered for streets

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikimedia-l] Maps based on Wikidata data

2014-03-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
is maintained at: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-analysis/map/map.html Thanks, Micru On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, In the latest iteration of the Reasonator, you will find the option to see what items exist in a radius of 15 km around

Re: [Wikidata-l] A proposal for a panel that might interest you

2014-03-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Luca I love it. As far as I am aware, this is the first Wikidata project outside of WMF. Chapeau !! I had a look. I saw that you had translations. Would it make sense to have the original text in old Greek and Latin? Would it make sense to show these texts with fonts that represent the way

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikitech-l] Reducing the number of GeoData coordinates stored

2014-04-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi Max, Is it possible to compare your index with the items in Wikidata. There are several things that I would like to do * add all coordinates to Wikidata items * report on all coordinates where what you know differs from Wikidata A next obvious question is how can we keep the two data sets in

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata Toolkit 0.1.0 released

2014-04-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What is the relevance of these tools when you have to have specialised environments to use them ? Thanks, GerardM On 9 April 2014 10:41, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: Am 08.04.2014 23:34, schrieb Denny Vrandečić: I was trying to use this, but my Java is a bit

Re: [Wikidata-l] large dispatch lag currently

2014-04-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Given that the issue is not with the multitude of changes, is there a problem with using bots and Widar as usual.. FYI the changes are happily arriving at Reasonator :) Thanks, GerardM On 16 April 2014 17:23, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.dewrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014

Re: [Wikidata-l] Welcome Helen and Anjali!

2014-04-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am really pleased with more attention for Wikidata.. When and where I can help / collaborate I will.. Of particular importance is the need to explain Wikidata.. Really credible Wikimedians find Wikidata hard, too hard to invest their time. Thanks, GerardM On 28 April 2014 23:56,

Re: [Wikidata-l] Bot request: 250+ thousands person data

2014-04-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When Wikipedia has an approach to specific articles that are not compatible with Wikidata, we can create items that fit our need and keep the original item for what it is .. for instance a list of people (in the case of the Wright brothers). The notion that Wikidata defers to Wikipedia is

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The question is much bigger than British English. If you language is Hindi, Odia or Malayalam you will find that many labels are just not available. The one reason why Reasonator is so important is that it does provide language fall back. Language fallback is not a luxury like it is for

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When you see a label in Reasonator, you will find that when it is not in *YOUR* language, it is underlined in red. You can hover over a label and you will be prompted to add a label in the named language. ONLY your language. Wikidata being Wikidata can provide the option as it already does to

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
that are absolutely useless in most languages. Thanks, GerardM On 5 May 2014 10:19, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: Am 04.05.2014 22:50, schrieb Gerard Meijssen: Hoi, When you see a label in Reasonator, you will find that when it is not in *YOUR* language, it is underlined in red

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When the other languages box needs to become more flexible, it is a different problem that has nothing to do with the ability to understand what statements are made. At this time it is an absolute inability when there is no label in *YOUR* language. Thanks, GerardM On 5 May 2014 10:21,

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am talking about statements.. I am not asking for selecting items that have no label in a language.. This would only work if auto descriptions are in use. Thanks, GerardM On 5 May 2014 12:52, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinz...@wikimedia.de wrote: Am 05.05.2014 10:57, schrieb Gerard

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
of Wikidata, as well as fallback for other languages such as Hindi, Odia or Malayalam. Cheers, Scott On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, I am talking about statements.. I am not asking for selecting items that have no label

Re: [Wikidata-l] weekly summary #108

2014-05-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Purodha what you say about Ethnologue is very biases, wrong and often hardly relevant. When you know your history, Ethnologue was asked if they would bring in their expertise and system in the ISO processes because the existing ISO-639-2 was extremely inadequate. When it was included, it

Re: [Wikidata-l] When the source says the information provided is dubious

2014-05-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In the Netherlands it used to be that people were baptised as soon as possible after birth. The notion that he must have been born a few days earlier is not necessarily correct. Thanks, GerardM On 6 May 2014 17:18, Joe Filceolaire filceola...@gmail.com wrote: Having a property with

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