Re: [Wikitech-l] Preliminary git module splitup notes (MediaWiki core extensions)

2011-10-05 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 7:18 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: There are 615 extensions in trunk/extensions With the new setup, would someone which has a checkout of everything need to open 616 connections (network latency, ssh authentication, etc.) whenever he wants to pull?

Re: [Wikitech-l] Preliminary git module splitup notes (MediaWiki core extensions)

2011-10-05 Thread Brion Vibber
On Oct 5, 2011 1:03 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: I know about ControlMaster (which we can only those of us with ssh+git can benefit), but just launching a new process and waiting if there's something new will slow-down. OTOH git skips the recurse everything locking all subfolders

Re: [Wikitech-l] Preliminary git module splitup notes (MediaWiki core extensions)

2011-10-05 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Oct 5, 2011 1:03 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: I know about ControlMaster (which we can only those of us with ssh+git can benefit), but just launching a new process and waiting if there's something new

Re: [Wikitech-l] Help setting up mysql.cnf for local WIki mirror

2011-10-06 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Fred Zimmerman zimzaz@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I am hoping that someone here can help me - I realize there is an xmlwikidumps mailing list but it is pretty low volume and expertise relative to this one. THere is a lot of conflicting advice on the mirroring

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Brion Vibber
2011/10/7 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Hoi. One distinct advantage of daily builds is that you use these to distribute improved localisations... Will this app come to translatewiki.net ? If so, it does make sense to build this functionality that is similar to what is offered by

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Brion Vibber
2011/10/7 church.of.emacs.ml church.of.emacs...@googlemail.com How about making a free version and an (identical!) Support Wikipedia version that has absolutly the same features, but costs $2 that go to WMF as a donation? :) Why we should do this: It's an extremly simple way for users to

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikipedia Android app – Support Wikipedia version

2011-10-07 Thread Brion Vibber
2011/10/7 Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com On a separate topic, it would probably be useful if someone built nightlies of the repo, so that those of us who are good usability test types but not necessarily coders or set up to build can contribute too; the original announcement didn't sound like

Re: [Wikitech-l] Bug 31424 - Anecdotal evidence of IE 8 problems

2011-10-07 Thread Brion Vibber
Just to note: we deployed an upgrade to jQuery 1.6.4 earlier today, which appears to have stopped successfully the IE 8 crashing for people who were able to test with us. There was some slight breakage in UploadWizard, which has been patched. -- brion

Re: [Wikitech-l] WikiEditor dialogs and caching? (fwd)

2011-10-17 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Daniel Barrett d...@vistaprint.com wrote: (Reposted from mediawiki-l due to zero responses.) I've been adding custom tools to the WikiEditor toolbar (MW 1.17.0 version) and am running into difficulty with browser caching. When I do something simple, such as

Re: [Wikitech-l] File::getPath() refactoring

2011-10-20 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Happy Melon happy.melon.w...@gmail.comwrote: On 19 October 2011 20:41, Russell Nelson russnel...@gmail.com wrote: In order to support viewing deleted files (currently a blocker bug in SwiftMedia), I'm going to refactor File::getPath() into a new public

Re: [Wikitech-l] Open positions with Wikimedia Germany

2011-10-24 Thread Brion Vibber
I just want to chime in with a yee-haw! on getting this project going! -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Welcome, Antoine Musso! (hashar)

2011-10-24 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Rob Lanphier wrote: He has been working in our community for quite some time, going by the name Ashar Voultoiz on mailing lists, and by hashar on IRC.Now that he's working as a contractor for WMF, he's decided

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki unit testing and non-MySQL databases

2011-10-24 Thread Brion Vibber
Hey all -- I've got a stack of issues discussed during the last couple months' conferences and hackathons to raise, so there may be a few more manifestos on the way. But don't worry, this one will be short! I had a great chat at the New Orleans hackathon with D J Bauch who's been working on

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki unit testing and non-MySQL databases

2011-10-24 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Fred Zimmerman zimzaz@gmail.comwrote: while we're on the subject, a question about MySQL: is it possible to make MW independent of MySQL innodb tables? Innodb tables have a number of attributes that can make set up a pain (e.g. file and log sizes). There

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki unit testing and non-MySQL databases

2011-10-25 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Antoine Musso hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Looks like there is a free Oracle version named 'Express' which we might use [1]. They are providing a Debian package [2] so we can get it installed on Jenkins host easily, just need some configurationw hich can

Re: [Wikitech-l] Heads up: Online coding challenge

2011-10-25 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: That's a lot! :) I wonder how many of them will proceed to code something useful and submit it. And how good will it be. An issue I see with the challenge is that it encourages the cathedral model,* so we lose the

[Wikitech-l] Visual Editor / parser status update meeting notes 2011-10-26

2011-10-26 Thread Brion Vibber
I've copied the live etherpad notes from today's Visual Editor / New Parser update meeting onto wikitext-l for those who may be interested: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitext-l/2011-October/000463.html -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mobile site rewrite implementation

2011-05-13 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Patrick Reilly prei...@wikimedia.orgwrote: The reason that I went the route of creating an extension vs a skin was that I wanted the most flexibility in adapting the content for mobile device rendering. There are a number of sections that need to be removed

Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki tech poster ideas?

2011-05-13 Thread Brion Vibber
Ooooh that would be AWESOME with an update fotr the Ashburn DC! -- brion On May 14, 2011 1:35 AM, Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com wrote: ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] Hackathon parser session initial notes

2011-05-14 Thread Brion Vibber
://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Future -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org / brion @ pobox.com) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Hackathon parser session initial notes

2011-05-15 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: In the meantime, if you're brave you can peek at the raw session notes: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/mwhack11Sat-Parser We're reviving the wikitext-l mailing list for people interested in the project; it's gotten some

Re: [Wikitech-l] Hackathon parser session initial notes

2011-05-16 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: I've stubbed out a couple sections on: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Future/Parser_plan More specific things to follow based on the notes previously posted. Added a stub 'get involved' section on http

Re: [Wikitech-l] Shell requests backlog

2011-05-17 Thread Brion Vibber
to accentuate the positive -- find specific projects that need some effort, and help round up people to help with them. -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org / brion @ pobox.com) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Wikitech-l] Interwikis

2011-05-17 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:35 PM, John McClure jmccl...@hypergrove.comwrote: I am wondering if interwikis can be be more powerfully leveraged. For instance, I'd like much to say ZZZ:my_ns:my_page to indicate a page in a particular subset of pages within a namespace in my wiki. Ultiimately an

Re: [Wikitech-l] Output as ePub or Mobi?

2011-05-17 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Tomasz Finc tf...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm having some discussions about adding it to the Books collection extension (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection). Will update as I have more info. OP has filed a request for review of an EPub exporter

Re: [Wikitech-l] Feedback on online communications around the Berlin hackathon (including remote participants)

2011-05-23 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: At Nikerabbit's suggestion, an excerpt from a LWN article about Ubuntu Developer Summit describing how to thoroughly encourage participation from remote local audiences: All of the UDS meetings are set up

[Wikitech-l] Any issues with pending jQuery 1.6.1 update on trunk?

2011-05-23 Thread Brion Vibber
Passing on an issue from IRC -- there's some talk of updating the core jQuery copy from 1.5.2 to the recently-released 1.6.1, which among other things fixes a bug mdale was encountering with certain JSON loads with $.ajax() being evaluated in the incorrect way. Krinkle mdale are doing some quick

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review process (was: Status of more regular code deployments)

2011-05-31 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Russell N. Nelson - rnnelson rnnel...@clarkson.edu wrote: Robla writes: 1. We say that a commit has some fixed window (e.g. 72 hours) to get reviewed, or else it is subject to automatic reversion. This will motivate committers to make sure they have a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review process (was: Status of more regular code deployments)

2011-05-31 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: On 31.05.2011, 22:41 Rob wrote: So, there's a number of possible solutions to this problem. These are independent suggestions, but any of these might help: 1. We say that a commit has some fixed window (e.g. 72

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of more regular code deployments

2011-05-31 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Alex Mr.Z-man mrzmanw...@gmail.comwrote: On 5/31/11, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote: There's been tons of discussion about what is an ideal release schedule for us (probably literally if you printed it out at 12pt on standard copy paper). At

Re: [Wikitech-l] LiquidThreads - drag to new location does not work. Does it work for you?

2011-05-31 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Thomas Gries m...@tgries.de wrote: RE: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:LiquidThreads Let me talk about talk pages with Lqt. The function to drag to new location a LiquidThread is not working for me. Looks like this got resolved now via

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of more regular code deployments

2011-05-31 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 3:20 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Yes, it's incredibly frustrating to the point that volunteer developers have walked away from MediaWiki code development. This is the wiki project; things are supposed to be fast! When someone makes a patch or a commit and

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of more regular code deployments

2011-05-31 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com wrote: Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote in message news:BANLkTinZzef=orvuw9dwicvahybuwxn...@mail.gmail.com... Sing it, brother! We're getting *some* stuff through quicker within the deployment branches, but not nearly

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review process (was: Status of more regular code deployments)

2011-06-01 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: This, for me, is the remaining problem with the 72-hour rule. If I happen to commit a SecurePoll change during a hackathon in Europe just as Tim leaves for the airport to go home, it's pretty much guaranteed that he

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review process (was: Status of more regular code deployments)

2011-06-01 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I *do* think we should enforce a 48hr revert if broken rule. If you can't be bothered to clean up your breakages in within 48 hours of putting your original patch in, it must not have been very important. Officially

Re: [Wikitech-l] tests for branches (was: Code review process)

2011-06-01 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com wrote: On 01.06.2011, 20:56 Ashar wrote: I am planning to add the REL1_18 branch to the CruiseControl system as a new project The prerequisite being to make it works for trunk :-) Would be great! Though even greater

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of more regular code deployments

2011-06-01 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: Alright, we've had fun with all caps for a while, so let's focus on solutions now. Ok, I'm turning in my caps lock key. ;) So let me sketch how I see us getting there. 1. Get 1.18 reviewed 2a. Get 1.18 deployed

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review process (was: Status of more regular code deployments)

2011-06-01 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] The point is, people's code should only be rejected with some specific reason that either a) lets them fix it and resubmit, or b) tells them definitively that it's not wanted and they shouldn't waste

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review process (was: Status of more regular code deployments)

2011-06-01 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: So then what happens if volunteers' contributions aren't reviewed promptly? Indeed, this is why we need to demonstrate that we can actually push code through the system on a consistent basis... until we can,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review process (was: Status of more regular code deployments)

2011-06-01 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 1:53 PM, bawolff bawolff...@gmail.com wrote: As a volunteer person, I'm fine if code I commit is reverted based on it sucking, being too complicated, being too ugly, etc provided there is actually some objection to the code. However, I'd be rather offended if it was

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review process (was: Status of more regular code deployments)

2011-06-01 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Happy-melon happy-me...@live.com wrote: +1. Pre-commit-review, post-commit-lifetime, branching, testing, whatever; all of the suggestions I've seen so far are IMO doomed to fail because they do not fix the underlying problem that not enough experienced manhours

Re: [Wikitech-l] Status of more regular code deployments

2011-06-01 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 6:52 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: This topic has come up several times and each time, it seems like the people with any kind of power are conspicuously absent. Where is Danese?

[Wikitech-l] On the IE6 query string security check breakage (bug 28235)

2011-06-02 Thread Brion Vibber
Is there a way we can narrow down this security check so it doesn't keep breaking API requests, action=raw requests, and ResourceLoader requests, etc? Having the last param in a query string end in say .png or .svg or .jpg or .ogg is. very frequent when dealing with uploaded files and file

Re: [Wikitech-l] On the IE6 query string security check breakage (bug 28235)

2011-06-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: Is there a way we can narrow down this security check so it doesn't keep breaking API requests, action=raw requests, and ResourceLoader requests

Re: [Wikitech-l] On the IE6 query string security check breakage (bug 28235)

2011-06-02 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: However, I don't think POST is that much of a problem. Problematic dots can only result from 'variable' pieces of data being put in your query string, and with POST you'd typically put the variable parts in the POST

Re: [Wikitech-l] On the IE6 query string security check breakage (bug 28235)

2011-06-03 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 03/06/11 06:56, Brion Vibber wrote: For 1) I'm honestly a bit willing to sacrifice a few IE 6 users at this point; the vendor's dropped support, shipped three major versions, and is actively campaigning to get

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code review process (was: Status of more regular code deployments)

2011-06-03 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: So, can we make it a goal to get to 1329 by this time next week? That first 265 should be a lot easier than the last 265, so if we can't get through the first 265, then we don't really stand a chance. I accept this

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Foundation-l] YouTube and Creative Commons

2011-06-03 Thread Brion Vibber
(I'm not sure offhand if I'm set up to cross-post to Foundation-l; if this doesn't make it, somebody please CC a mention if necessary. Thanks!) On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:42 PM, aude aude.w...@gmail.com wrote: Aside from the very real privacy issue, YouTube videos can disappear at any time. I

[Wikitech-l] I'm in ur trunk, reviewing pre-1.18 branch code

2011-06-07 Thread Brion Vibber
Currently working (mostly backwards) to fill in the Code Review holes from before 1.18 branch point: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWikioffset=87519path=%2Ftrunk%2Fphase3 Roadmap provisionally says July for 1.18 deployment:

Re: [Wikitech-l] I'm in ur trunk, reviewing pre-1.18 branch code

2011-06-07 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: Currently working (mostly backwards) to fill in the Code Review holes from before 1.18 branch point: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title

Re: [Wikitech-l] I'm in ur trunk, reviewing pre-1.18 branch code

2011-06-08 Thread Brion Vibber
That reminds me I should merge docs to the roadmap page! For now those live at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Future -- brion On Jun 8, 2011 4:13 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru wrote: I wish there was WYSIWYG

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-08 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: Why don't we first ask Tim how complicated it would be, and get someone else to do it if it's more than 2-3 hours of work? I'm also not sure the scripts Tim uses to create a tarball are even in SVN anywhere, maybe he'd

Re: [Wikitech-l] Intended purpose of MediaWiki:Common.js anno MW 1.19/RL 2.0

2011-06-08 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:16 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: Subject was: Update Gadgets extension on WMF wikis This part of the thread is hereby forked to discuss MediaWiki:Common.js. I do not believe MediaWiki:Common.js should be deleted (atleast not yet), I'm merely curious what

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-08 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: Currently the installer's support for extensions is limited; Yes :( some won't actually set up right, Examples? Whatever was listed in bugzilla

Re: [Wikitech-l] Cache Expiry

2011-06-08 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.comwrote: I've looked around for methods to manipulate the cache duration for a given article. There are methods to facilitate the expiration of an article, and there are extensions that can disable caching for articles via

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-08 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Whatever was listed in bugzilla on that one bug where something didn't run its installer stages or something? I don't remember; the point is that we know we don't hook all hooks etc. That would be bug 28983, which is

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-08 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com wrote: This argument completely misses the point. The (probably trivial) extra work is in the tarballing process and doesn't touch anything else.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:59 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: * WikiEditor Possibly I guess, although I would actually prefer it in core compared to a extension, I'm not a fan of how it takes a little longer to load and the screen jumps around. Note that the jumping isn't because

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: Note that the jumping isn't because it's an extension, but rather because of the specific way the toolbar and editor bits get injected and activated

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: Well if I'm setting up an internal wiki for 10 people, saving space may be beneficial over supporting 250+ languages no one speaks. At the moment the *entire* languages/ dir in trunk comes to... 43 megabytes. (Not counting

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:11 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I'm not sure if the same trick can work for the new toolbar, as the new toolbar doesn't have a consistent height. The height fluctuates depending on which sub-modules have been expanded previously. This could probably be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Testing the new php mobile extension

2011-06-10 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:39 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Tomasz Finc wrote: We're moving into our first testing stage for the new mobile extension and we'd love your help. You can find all the details on todays blog post at

Re: [Wikitech-l] JSGantt inside wiki articles

2011-06-11 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.comwrote: There's also the technique Raphael JS uses. I'm quite fond of Raphael for interactive graphics -- it provides a nice little JS API that maps things to native elements in either SVG or VML (for older versions of IE

[Wikitech-l] We hit 90k in subversion!

2011-06-13 Thread Brion Vibber
. :) Keep on truckin' y'all! -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org / brion @ pobox.com) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] I'm in ur trunk, reviewing pre-1.18 branch code

2011-06-13 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Ashar Voultoiz hashar+...@free.fr wrote: This is a linear progression, the revision become harder and harder to review since, with time, most of the easy stuff got reviewed :-) Make it

Re: [Wikitech-l] Alternate/remote editor API?

2011-06-13 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.orgwrote: The way the WikiEditor works right now, the textbox can be replaced with anything that can support a few methods, such as getSelection

[Wikitech-l] BlockTest bugs resolved -- test board is clear!

2011-06-15 Thread Brion Vibber
We've been fighting some weird regressions in the test cases for the Block class which handles IP user blocks, some of which took us a while to even reproduce consistently. After Chad others cleaned up some sqlite-related issues, we still had a remaining stubborn one which failed in the full

Re: [Wikitech-l] wikistream: displays wikipedia updates in realtime

2011-06-16 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: I've been looking to experiment with node.js lately and created a little toy webapp that displays updates from the major language wikipedias in real time: http://wikistream.inkdroid.org That's pretty cool -- and having

Re: [Wikitech-l] statistics about skin usage

2011-06-17 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote: We also used this to keep track of specific preferences, some interesting info there.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefStats

Re: [Wikitech-l] Alternate/remote editor API?

2011-06-17 Thread Brion Vibber
the ParserPlayground demos more tightly integrated into the editor widget, and will try to hack up some temporary handling for the bold/italic/link etc on the provisional dom structure. -- brion On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Brion

Re: [Wikitech-l] Enabling protocol relative URLs on Wikimedia sites week of July 18th

2011-06-17 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: In anticipation for proper HTTPS support on Wikimedia sites, we will be enabling protocol relative URLs. This means that things like logos, references to resources, and interwiki links will use links like:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Enabling protocol relative URLs on Wikimedia sites week of July 18th

2011-06-17 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: We'll enable this for test.wikipedia.org some time before enabling it globally, so that there will be at least a short time to test beforehand.

Re: [Wikitech-l] ICANN expansion, relative URLs

2011-06-17 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: While the topic of how Mediawiki handles URLs is on the table, let me point out today's Slashdot piece, which notes that ICANN is about to open up the gTLD namespace... *to everyone*, not just commercial registries.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Enabling protocol relative URLs on Wikimedia sites week of July 18th

2011-06-17 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: Is there a handy config snippet people can use to test things against their local installs in the meantime? Afraid not. We have to change

Re: [Wikitech-l] Enabling protocol relative URLs on Wikimedia sites week of July 18th

2011-06-17 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: Great that we have a list! :D Do make sure that all of those individual settings get tested before touching the production cluster; Well

Re: [Wikitech-l] Enabling protocol relative URLs on Wikimedia sites week of July 18th

2011-06-17 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Victor Vasiliev vasi...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: * email What about user preference for cases like this? With four options: Prefer HTTP, Prefer HTTPS, Force HTTP, Force HTTPS. The current case

Re: [Wikitech-l] Enabling protocol relative URLs on Wikimedia sites week of July 18th

2011-06-17 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: [snip] or it defaults to HTTP for something formatted from default. s/default/background job running on CLI/ :P -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sections as first-class citizen

2011-06-18 Thread Brion Vibber
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Misdre misdre+mediaw...@gmail.com wrote: The most cumbersome situation is when you want to watch only one section, especially on talk pages. You have no choice but to watch the entire page and that can be really painful. Is there an easy way to improve this

Re: [Wikitech-l] Store IP using varchar(40) is enough?

2011-06-21 Thread Brion Vibber
On Jun 21, 2011 9:29 AM, Ryan Chan ryanchan...@gmail.com wrote: According to this: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_newtalk_table, IP was stored using varchar(40) . But seems 45 should be the safe instead of 39?

[Wikitech-l] Sortable tables broken in 1.18 trunk; needs tests fixes or revert

2011-06-22 Thread Brion Vibber
The sortable table system in MediaWiki was completely rewritten in r86088; unfortunately this was done without benefit of any unit testing or regression testing, and there seem to be a lot of new bugs introduced. I've started adding test cases for table sorting in r90595; this adds a qunit test

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sortable tables broken in 1.18 trunk; needs tests fixes or revert

2011-06-22 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: Brion Vibber wrote: The sortable table system in MediaWiki was completely rewritten in r86088; unfortunately this was done without benefit of any unit testing or regression testing, and there seem to be a lot of new

Re: [Wikitech-l] Sortable tables broken in 1.18 trunk; needs tests fixes or revert

2011-06-22 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: [snip] The ascending sort by name usually works, but if called twice on two tables, the second table usually gets sorted *completely* incorrectly. This can be easily confirmed by manual inspection by copying a page

Re: [Wikitech-l] should we join the Unicode Constortium?

2011-06-27 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.orgwrote: I'm not sure who would be in charge of this, but I think it would be useful if the WMF was a liaison member of the Unicode Constortium: http://unicode.org/consortium/memblogo.html This body makes all sorts of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Google Chrome

2011-06-29 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:02 PM, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: I am having some difficulties editing with Google Chome. The browser adds extra spaces with many edits and is unable to add lines to the middle of infoboxes (when you hit the enter key it just moves you to the bottom of

Re: [Wikitech-l] RL dynamic parameters

2011-06-30 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.comwrote: How do I pass parameters dynamically to an RL module? I need to pass a FileRepo object to the RL module when I call $wgOut-addModuleStyle(). I'm not sure this is really possible; all that happens when you call

[Wikitech-l] ResourceLoader JavaScript validation on trunk (bug 28626)

2011-07-06 Thread Brion Vibber
Some of you may have found that ResourceLoader's bundled minified JavaScript loads can be a bit frustrating when syntax errors creep into your JavaScript code -- not only are the line numbers reported in your browser of limited help, but a broken file can cause *all* JS modules loaded in the same

Re: [Wikitech-l] ResourceLoader JavaScript validation on trunk (bug 28626)

2011-07-06 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:18 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: How is JSMin+ different to the plain JSMin that we had and was removed due to licensing conflicts? It's a different program, written by different people, based on code from another unrelated project, under a different

Re: [Wikitech-l] Do we need Selenium for anything anymore? (was: [Selenium] IDE test for regressing bug)

2011-07-07 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: Thanks for the test test suite! Just wanted to update you that it seems like fewer and fewer MediaWiki developers are interested in

Re: [Wikitech-l] Heads-up: WMF engineering process improvement meetings

2011-07-07 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:40 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Thanks very much for the heads-up. Posting the minutes or any notes from the meeting on Meta-Wiki or mediawiki.org would be fantastic. We're taking notes on an etherpad for now; some process flowcharts are being done on a

Re: [Wikitech-l] testing mobile browsers?

2011-07-11 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Ashar Voultoiz hashar+...@free.fr wrote: * Safari, Opera Mozilla for mobile : they are probably mostly the same as the desktop version. I have not found emulators for them. * Android : has an emulator. On my computer it is painfully slow and not usable for

Re: [Wikitech-l] testing mobile browsers?

2011-07-11 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: - Original Message - From: Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com * default redirection to the appropriate view based on device Please remember that some people with high-function browsers *want* the low-function

Re: [Wikitech-l] ResourceLoader JavaScript validation on trunk (bug 28626)

2011-07-11 Thread Brion Vibber
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: Only the parser is being used right now, in two places: - on the JavaScriptMinifier test cases to confirm that results are valid JS (should be extended to a fuzz tester, probably) - on each individual file loaded via

Re: [Wikitech-l] Minor API change, ApiUpload

2011-07-12 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:25 PM, Ian Baker iba...@wikimedia.org wrote: I've made a minor API change ApiUpload, for stashed files. It's not a commonly used API and the change shouldn't break anything external, but I figured I should post just in case. Temporarily stashed files now have their

Re: [Wikitech-l] improving bugzilla patch review: Splinter?

2011-07-12 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: We have about 150 MediaWiki patches in Bugzilla that await review. To make reviewers' lives easier, we could install an interactive patch review extension called Splinter on our Bugzilla installation. A

Re: [Wikitech-l] Supporting Extension authors

2011-07-17 Thread Brion Vibber
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Mark A. Hershberger mhershber...@wikimedia.org wrote: MediaWiki.org is great for extension authors, as far as it goes. Today, though, someone asked on #mediawiki how to create development branches for their extension in their SVN repo. I told him I didn't

Re: [Wikitech-l] Rebranching 1.18

2011-07-18 Thread Brion Vibber
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I've already said this before and I'm going to say it againPlease do not take this as an invitation to begin breaking trunk with huge refactorings. It makes backporting fixes a major PITA and pushes the 1.18 release

[Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

2011-07-18 Thread Brion Vibber
Bug 24207 requests switching the math rendering preference default from its current setting (which usually produces a nice PNG and occasionally produces some kinda ugly HTML) to the always render PNG setting. I'd actually propose dropping the rendering options entirely... * HTML if simple and if

Re: [Wikitech-l] Rendering preferences for math - PDFs

2011-07-19 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Carl (CBM) cbm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: A second issue that has been raised on the wiki is the poor quality of math in PDFs generated from articles. The math shows up as a low-quality bitmap which is very pixelated and noticeably different from the body

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extensions needing a maintainer

2011-07-21 Thread Brion Vibber
That doesnt look like it would actually work -- anybody could still get at those pages' source through: * edit * special:export * action=raw * api * search result extracts -- brion On Jul 21, 2011 9:32 AM, Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 07/21/2011 10:39 AM, Mark A.

Re: [Wikitech-l] RFC: Should we drop the rendering preferences for math?

2011-07-21 Thread Brion Vibber
+1 on that -- using the wiki's the right thing! The list is great for devs but it's a high bar to figure out for feedback. My position for now is to recommend reducing the existing options to just PNG and text, and after that look more solidly at auto-enabling mathjax etc for the next major

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