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From: Jason Hodge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:15 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Right, it is not. It is a embedded content provider for web sites.
J Hodge
630.445.3779
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burstable.
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From: "John Thomas" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
http://www.nefiber.com/
Recently, I l
started with 1 T1 from Qwest like many others.
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Chuck the issue with most people isn't the cost per meg
List
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Chuck the issue with most people isn't the cost per meg at the port
I've found $5/meg at the port the issue is getting it from the port to
your NOC. :(
Travis
the rock, eventually the rock
gives up. We started with 1 T1 from Qwest like many others.
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Chuck
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
There deals clear down to $7/meg.
Ask vendors for a 2 year contract, GigE 100 Mbps burstable.
- Original Message -
From: John Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008
General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Heh... We started with Westnet here too! Those were the days. Then
MCI, then Sprint... Never heard of Qwest in those days.
Randy
Travis Johnson wrote:
Wow starting with a full T1 we started
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From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:10 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
I'm having a heck of a time finding providers in my area (Eugene, OR) from
which I can backhaul to my network. Anyone
@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
I'm having a heck of a time finding providers in my area (Eugene, OR) from
which I can backhaul to my network. Anyone know of a good site or have
contacts for people who could quote in my area? We're looking for 30-40
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From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:05 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Heh... We started with Westnet here too! Those were the days
wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Is there a central resource for this type of information?
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Link Technologies
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From: Randy Cosby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 10:05 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Heh... We started with Westnet here too
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:15 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Right, it is not. It is a embedded content provider for web sites.
J Hodge
630.445.3779
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From
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:04 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
ember 24, 2008 11:04 AM
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Can anyone provide the ASN the streams come from?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing S
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From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:04 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Can anyone provide the ASN the streams come from?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent
208.111.168.6
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:40 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Do you happen to have the IP blocks it was coming
Hammett wrote:
208.111.168.6
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:40 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Do you happen to have the IP blocks
Mike Hammett wrote:
208.111.168.6
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
From: Travis Johnson
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:40 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Do you happen to have the IP
al Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:43 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Hi,
So I grabbed all of Limelight Networks' IP blocks and created a queue on
my MT c
AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Almost all is port 80 and the worst part is this rule comes after my
all-p2p rule, so I'm missing at least that much in torrent traffic. :(
Travis
Microserv
Jason Hodge wrote:
Sounds like bit torrent. What
, November 29, 2008 11:41 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Sounds like bit torrent. What ports is the traffic on?
J Hodge
630.445.3779
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
]
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:41 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Sounds like bit torrent. What ports is the traffic on?
J Hodge
630.445.3779
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
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From: Jason Hodge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 12:15 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Right, it is not. It is a embedded content provider for web sites.
J Hodge
630.445.3779
-Original
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From: Jason Hodge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:47 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
http://www.limelightnetworks.com/
It is online games and streaming
-Original Message-
From: Adam Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:31:43
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
I oversubscribe 10/1. I try to keep it down to 30-35 subs per AP
(mostly 900MHz=3mbps radios
, November 28, 2008 8:10 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Problem with 900 is the lack of spectrum. Most fast equipment uses 10 to
20MHz. In 900 there is only a total of 26MHz. The fastest solution on the
market is to use
CTED]
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 8:10 AM
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Problem with 900 is the lack of spectrum. Most fast equipment uses 10 to
20MHz. In 900 there is only a total of 26MHz.
In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up to
provide video on-demand services to all of the XBox 360 users. Not only
can you start one of 12,000 videos in a matter of seconds on your
computer, but you can also do this right on your Xbox 360, bringing it
mainstream
Sony 40 Bravia S and the console is connected via HDMI. Netlfix looks good
to me. Sony even confirmed I have a defective TV (2 days old) and is
getting someone to repair it.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
Those who don't
Sony 40 Bravia S and the console is connected via HDMI. Netlfix looks good
to me. Sony even confirmed I have a defective TV (2 days old) and is
getting someone to repair it.
2mbps connection or what?
Matt
, November 28, 2008 11:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up to
provide video on-demand services to all of the XBox 360 users. Not only
can you start one of 12,000 videos in a matter
was much worse.
YMMV
Brad
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 11:23 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
In case you did not know, recently
Been watching it for a good while now. Doing a number of TV Episodes,
and no issues on a 40 Inch LCD. Near DVD quality what it says at the
highest resolution! Don't have ANY issues with it as of yet!
What data rate are you seeing when streaming?
Matt
2.2 MEG + Starting getting 3-4meg easy.
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314-735-0270
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, November 24, 2008 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
I think the canopy 450 will do something like 30 down and 10 up.
So that could give you 20 simultaneously which statistically could
work if you had 50-100 on an AP
with
them as long as you pay for what you actually use.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
I was charging high usage
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From: "Drew Lentz" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
The point that I was getting at when this thread started
much closer to 2 gigs than 3.
It's gone up by a gig in the last 12 to 18 months though.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: support
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Marlon,
6
Drew,
I once thought the world was full of rednecks and southern bells, until I got
out of the southern United States a few times. As a matter of fact, I thought
Vegas hung the moon!
I am not sure where you hail from, but can you give us an idea of what your
upstream cost are? That makes ALL
Obviously upstream costs vary depending on where you are located. That isn't
the whole issue here. At the last wisp we built out, we were accessing dual
DS-3s at 2 central points and distributing them via 155Mbps radios
throughout 6000 square miles. We found the lowest cost upstream provider at
- Original Message -
From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Drew,
I once thought the world was full of rednecks and southern bells, until I
got out
wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
$23/meg. Dude, you suck!
Out here I pay 250/meg at one location and $140 per at another. That's
JUST
the bw. Tack on hundreds more for the pipe and it gets ugly fast.
Century Tel
Of Charles Wu (CTI)
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Best practices tell
you to build your network for your needs tomorrow, not for today, not for
yesterday.
Until the cold reality of cash flow
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Charles Wu (CTI)
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Best practices tell
you to build your network for your needs tomorrow
One nice feature of this Blockbuster device is that it seems to
download and store the video, so it doesn't rely on streaming.
Also, I looked at their website and it seems like the good videos
cost $3.99 (not 1.99). The videos did seem to be more recent than the
ones Netflix offers.
On Nov
With my consumer hat on I don't care if it is streaming or not really - they
both of their small ups and downs. If I have to pay for storage it would
bother me but I got the feeling they'll provide you with a unit that does
the storage.
With my WISP hat on I would prefer people to store the data
: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:36 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
With my consumer hat on I don't care if it is streaming or not really -
they
both of their small ups and downs. If I have to pay for storage it would
bother
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From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 11:36 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
With my consumer hat on I don't care if it is streaming or not really -
they
both
area. I'll bet it's
amazingly different.
laters,
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
The point that I
Drew,
Being in favor of not limiting bandwidth may seem very altruistic but
I'm not sure you are aware of the bandwidth/throughput limitations of
todays wireless equipment used for last mile access. It's not a question
of fitting the business model; it's a question of fitting today's
current
You have hit the problem directly on the head. You think a simple
Canopy AP is going to solve the problem? Let's say you are allocating
10Mbps downlink on this AP... that would mean 5 customers per AP (@
2Mbps each). Nobody in this market can survive on those ratios.
This service needs capped
Yes. I am up to 25 gig this month. Course me and my wife have been
watching older TV shows over the weekend. ;)
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* Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP
Couple of things to mention here...
I believe (not certain!) that Netflix will do lower quality streams based on
your downstream connection. How low it will go I can't say.
If a customer wants something they have to pay for it. The majority of
customers go with the smallest package (something
, November 24, 2008 8:30 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
You have hit the problem directly on the head. You think a simple Canopy AP
is going to solve the problem? Let's say you are allocating 10Mbps downlink
on this AP... that would mean 5
It is important to understand the business impact on this. If you can
deliver these speeds, this also could be a method to enable upgrades
of your service. I.e. Customer calls in and says their netflix video is
bad, if they do not have at least 2-3 meg , and you offer that speed,
upgrade
I have several customer's that stream some kind of data (I've always assumed
it was a patch or new game) from Valve's servers. These customers are all
on one AP - I think they're a family of gamers. Each of them do a good
2meg+ during the night time or weekends.
Josh Luthman
Office:
Since I moved out here onto the side of the coastal mountains in a
little cabin, I have not bought cable or dish. I use my internet.
One thing that does happen is I watch a lot less tv and really now only
watch some movies, maybe one or two a week. Mostly I watch the news
www.foxnews.com or
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
You have hit the problem directly on the head. You think a simple Canopy AP
is going to solve the problem? Let's say you are allocating 10Mbps downlink on
this AP... that would mean 5 customers per AP (@ 2Mbps each). Nobody
You have hit the problem directly on the head. You think a simple Canopy AP
is going to solve the problem? Let's say you are allocating 10Mbps downlink
on this AP... that would mean 5 customers per AP (@ 2Mbps each). Nobody in
this market can survive on those ratios.
This service needs
Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
You have hit the problem directly on the head. You think a simple Canopy
AP is going to solve the problem? Let's say you
@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up to
provide video on-demand services to all of the XBox 360 users. Not only
can you start one of 12,000 videos in a matter of seconds on your
computer, but you can also
OK, then buy a Canopy 430.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
rantThis is why we need gear capable of higher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:39 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
OK, then buy a Canopy 430.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
--
From: Dennis Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:42 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up to
provide video on-demand
simultaneously which statistically could work if you had
50-100 on an AP.
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
You have hit the problem directly
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:31:41AM -0600, Mike Hammett wrote:
I will not purchase another AP unless it is able to deliver 40 mbit of
throughput, end of story. Fortunately for me, they're out there...
Mikrotik can (though uses a lot of spectrum). Deliberant is working on it.
I believe the
@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up to
provide video on-demand services to all of the XBox 360 users. Not only
can you start one of 12,000 videos in a matter of seconds on your
computer, but you
General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
I think we will eventually see people just leave constant streams open day
and night. How many of you leave your TV on much of the time whether you are
watching it or not? This throws off the over-subscription model which
relates
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Mike,
There are real physical limits to the amount of throughput that a radio
channel (X MHz wide) can handle. Ranting at manufacturers isn't going to
change this very much. You can only flow so
Johnson
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Now we just need Mikrotik to add a category like all-p2p but called
all-video so I can throttle that too. :)
TV belongs on satellite. It's the best use
if you had
50-100 on an AP.
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
You have hit the problem directly on the head. You think a simple Canopy
AP
-100 on an AP.
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
You have hit the problem directly on the head. You think a simple Canopy
AP is going to solve
: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
I couldn't imagine how the logistics of this would work. What makes
sense is if your customer uses more bandwidth, then they pay
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
You have hit the problem directly on the head. You think a simple
Canopy
AP is going to solve the problem? Let's say you are allocating 10Mbps
downlink
Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Dennis Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:42 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
In case you did not know
General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up to
provide video on-demand services to all of the XBox 360 users. Not only
can you start one of 12,000 videos in a matter
List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
I couldn't imagine how the logistics of this would work. What makes
sense is if your customer uses more bandwidth, then they pay for it.
Everything else is just an inefficient way to do the same.
Lets
Charging a customer by their actually usage is the most 'real' method of
billing. In fact the unlimited model is the artificial one that is used
to entice people into buying. If the customer always fully utilized
their $30/month worth of bandwidth you would go broke.
That is a great point.
Don't forget VoIP and it's unlimited calling plan versus ATT and Verizon's
several cents per minute over the last several years.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Jack Unger wrote:
Being in favor of not limiting bandwidth may seem very altruistic
but I'm not sure you are aware of the bandwidth/throughput
limitations of todays wireless equipment used for last mile access.
It's not a question of fitting the business model; it's a
like 30 down and 10 up. So that
could give you 20 simultaneously which statistically could work if you had
50-100 on an AP.
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming
ltaneously which statistically could work if you had
50-100 on an AP.
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
You have hit the problem directly on the head
ly which statistically could work if you had
50-100 on an AP.
- Original Message -
From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
You have hit the problem directly on the head. You think a s
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
You have hit the problem directly on the head. You think a simple
Canopy
AP is going to solve the problem? Let's say you are allocating 10Mbps
downlink on this AP... that would mean 5
My telephone service is unlimited (home landline with Qwest) and could be
unlimited cell phone with ATT or Sprint. My water is unlimited.
There is almost always 'fine print' in these unlimited plans.
Unlimited long distance is almost always not completely unlimited.
People want unlimited
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
You have hit the problem directly on the head. You think a simple
Canopy
AP is going to solve the problem? Let's say you are allocating 10Mbps
downlink on this AP
The local Gas Co here has budget billing The bill changes ever 4
months. During the winter its low, and the summer its way high, why.
Winter we use it to heat with, normally I would have 300-400 bills, for
a few months, but the summer we only use it for cooking, so it would be
30-40 bucks!
This is the statement that got me:
One argument that I have had people tell me, is that the ISP should know
this is coming and should have planned for it.
Whether it is through watching the amount of bandwidth used over periods of
time as a trend or doing market research to find out what is
Yep. And I would agree there. I also think, WISPs, and even cable cos
have the issue that the technology will limit their ability to take this
increase rapidly.
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* Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:50 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Mike Hammett wrote:
The billing
List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Mike Hammett wrote:
The billing model is irrelevant if the gear can't do it in the first
place.
You could charge $10/megabyte transferred and it would be meaningless if
you
can't deliver what
]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:42 PM
Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up to
provide video on-demand services to all of the XBox 360 users. Not only
can you start
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Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
In case you did not know, recently NetFlix and Microsoft teamed up to
provide video on-demand services to all of the XBox 360 users
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From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
sigh
We've also started getting a lot of calls from
Best practices tell
you to build your network for your needs tomorrow, not for today, not for
yesterday.
Until the cold reality of cash flow and running a profitable business smacks
you right in the face and then you're stuck trying to keep yesterday's network
running as long as possible...
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
I think the canopy 450 will do something like 30 down and 10 up.
So that could give you 20 simultaneously which statistically could
work if you had 50-100 on an AP.
Ok, so you have 20 people on one AP pulling 2Meg each which is 40
meg stream. If
are building out our
network.
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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:06 PM
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
I think
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Mike Hammett wrote:
Where has the innovation in the last few years gone?/rant
How many in this industry bitch and moan over the cost of gear? How
many would purchase an AP at under $200 and STILL think that's too
high? How many in this industry are willing to purchase
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
I deliver 100 mbps wholesale to many rural areas for $3-4K/month
type of figure. That includes transport. And stastically, you can
oversub it, even with streaming content. You are never going to
have all 20 streaming movies all at the same time. I
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