Bert Doorn wrote:
I sense an utterly erroneous presumpton that the designer knows best
what suits people they have never met.
Bert - Isn't that what all good 'designers' do? The 'consumers' then
decide if they like the design and whether they want it or not. There
is little point in anyone
About 4-5 months ago they built a new national library here in Norway, the architects worked alot with making the place accesible for users with different disabilites. Essentially they did everything wrong. The biggest mistake was of course not to talk with anyone blind or in a wheelchair. There
Vincent Hasselgård wrote:
When it comes to font-sizes I'd really like to blame the browsers. I
don't think it's up to us to provide tools for enlarging or shrinking
fonts, just like it's not up to newspapers to provide a spyglass with
every paper. Both Windows and MacOS are shipped with
Designer wrote:
Maybe 'provider' is a better term than designer. Or Georg's term :
'Web carpenter' is more to the point here.
Depends on what you put into that term... :-)
A good carpenter should know how to do his/her job in order to make a
building functional for inhabitants and visitors,
Designer wrote Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:06:36 +:
Bert Doorn wrote Sat, 18 Feb 2006 00:22:22 +0800:
I sense an utterly erroneous presumpton that the designer knows best
what suits people they have never met.
Bert - Isn't that what all good 'designers' do? The 'consumers' then
decide if
Bert Doorn wrote:
To use similarly strong wording, I sense an utterly erroneous presumpton
that the designer knows best what suits people they have never met.
A Designer gets paid to understand their audience.
The vast majority of users, even those working in high-tech firms
here in Silicon
Hassan Schroeder wrote Sat, 18 Feb 2006 05:21:36 -0800:
The vast majority of users, even those working in high-tech firms
here in Silicon Valley, *never* change *any* settings -- of the OS
or any applications -- from the supplied defaults.
Where is the data that backs up this assertion? Why
Felix Miata wrote:
The vast majority of users, even those working in high-tech firms
here in Silicon Valley, *never* change *any* settings -- of the OS
or any applications -- from the supplied defaults.
Where is the data that backs up this assertion?
That assertion is based on my experience
Hassan Schroeder wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
The vast majority of users, even those working in high-tech firms
here in Silicon Valley, *never* change *any* settings -- of the OS
or any applications -- from the supplied defaults.
Where is the data that backs up this assertion?
That
On 2/18/06, Vincent Hasselgård [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My argument:
Newspapers comes out with fixed font-size, but people who's got low vision
may very easily use a spyglass to read easier. People in need of a spyglass
gets themselves one. The same thing applies to web and computers, it's
Christian Montoya wrote:
How many websites do we come across with some Java or server-side
option to increase text size? It's almost as common as the XHTML and
CSS validator links. Is it really useful? No, not really...
Completely agree.
how about
if these sites had a link to a page that
Patrick H. Lauke wrote Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:00:21 +:
But is it our job as web *content* developers to teach our users how to
use their browsers? The onus is on the browser developers to make their
tools more intuitive and user friendly, and to expose that functionality
to users in a much
Christian Montoya wrote:
[snip]
How many websites do we come across with some Java or server-side
option to increase text size? It's almost as common as the XHTML and
CSS validator links. Is it really useful? No, not really... how about
if these sites had a link to a page that explained how
Felix Miata wrote:
Nobody seems to want to take the first step on this. I doubt M$ will, so
it's probably up to open source contributors to make the first move, but
from what incentive? If you know any you can convince, here are two
places to start:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 05:21:36 -0800, Hassan Schroeder wrote:
To ignore the fact that the most common browser has crap defaults
and minimal resizing capability is to abdicate your responsibilities
as a Designer.
Hassan,
With all due respect, I find that IE's default settings are just fine for
i might leave this site the way it is but on my next site i will try and
implement a font size adjuster.
lisa,
If you provide the user with a Javascript pop-up window that they
right-click to display a pretty flash-based font-increasing
app, the user
could increase the font as much as they
kvnmcwebn
lisa,
If you provide the user with a Javascript pop-up window that they
right-click to display a pretty flash-based font-increasing
app, the user
could increase the font as much as they like.
It's known as the 'Clydesdale Hack'.
can you give me an example of the
Lisa forgot to put the sarcasm tags around her content. She wasn't being
serious there...
...lisa please stop horsing around...
i guess i will have to research the issue more...
try and find the balance..
-best
kvn
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kvnmcwebn wrote:
i guess i will have to research the issue more...
try and find the balance..
When your page respects the user's decision what size fonts are most
appropriate for him, your page needs no resizer, because the user won't
need to again resize just for having visited your page.
Felix Miata wrote:
When your page respects the user's decision what size fonts are most
appropriate for him, your page needs no resizer, because the user won't
need to again resize just for having visited your page. He's presumably
already done that in his browser.
..which is the utterly
Hassan Schroeder wrote Fri, 17 Feb 2006 07:36:35 -0800:
Felix Miata wrote:
When your page respects the user's decision what size fonts are most
appropriate for him, your page needs no resizer, because the user won't
need to again resize just for having visited your page. He's presumably
Hassan Schroeder wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
When your page respects the user's decision what size fonts are most
appropriate for him, your page needs no resizer, because the user won't
need to again resize just for having visited your page. He's presumably
already done that in his browser.
Hassan Schroeder wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
When your page respects the user's decision what size fonts are
most appropriate for him, your page needs no resizer, because the
user won't need to again resize just for having visited your page.
He's presumably already done that in his browser.
Hassan Schroeder wrote:
Felix Miata wrote:
When your page respects the user's decision what size fonts are most
appropriate for him, your page needs no resizer, because the user won't
need to again resize just for having visited your page. He's presumably
already done that in his browser.
Mark Harris wrote:
Then you should try educating them, rather than 'managing' them
So then educated users set their preferred font size, and then (apart
from a few sites that do the right thing and don't go below 100%) the
rest of the web appears even smaller (or in any case differently
Patrick H. Lauke wrote Fri, 17 Feb 2006 22:26:54 +:
Mark Harris wrote Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:39:00 +1300:
Then you should try educating them, rather than 'managing' them
So then educated users set their preferred font size, and then (apart
from a few sites that do the right thing and
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Mark Harris wrote:
Then you should try educating them, rather than 'managing' them
So then educated users set their preferred font size, and then (apart
from a few sites that do the right thing and don't go below 100%) the
rest of the web appears even smaller (or in
Yes but Patrick,
If you provide the user with a Javascript pop-up window that they
right-click to display a pretty flash-based font-increasing app, the user
could increase the font as much as they like.
It's known as the 'Clydesdale Hack'.
L
-Original Message-
From: Patrick H.
Herrod, Lisa wrote:
Yes but Patrick,
If you provide the user with a Javascript pop-up window that they
right-click to display a pretty flash-based font-increasing app, the user
could increase the font as much as they like.
It's known as the 'Clydesdale Hack'.
But only if the button for
Herrod, Lisa wrote:
Yes but Patrick,
If you provide the user with a Javascript pop-up window that they
right-click to display a pretty flash-based font-increasing app, the user
could increase the font as much as they like.
It's known as the 'Clydesdale Hack'.
L
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I've always wanted my own theme song.
I believe I have finally arrived.
-Original Message-
From: Mark Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 17 February 2006 12:27 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] site check: FONT sizes
Herrod, Lisa wrote:
Yes
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