Nope. It does in fact make the lines higher, but it simple ads more
'space' at the top of the text, not actaully adding it to the top AND
the bottom. It also does nothing to make the image display at its full
height.
Damn. Any other suggestions?
On 12/14/05, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can anyone please tell me how to fix the following script to get the
div the stay in the center of the page in IE. It works fine in
Firefox, but stay left in IE.
body {
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12px;
line-height: 22px;
G'day
Al Kendall wrote:
Can anyone please tell me how to fix the following script to get the div the
stay in the center of the page in IE. It works fine in Firefox, but stay
left in IE.
Add this to your existing CSS:
body { text-align:center }
#content { text-align:left }
Regards
--
Bert
Try this Al
#content {
padding: 10px;
margin:5px auto;
background-color: #fff;
border: 1px solid #000;
width: 70%; /* remove this because you are setting your margin to auto*/
}
Regards,
Ric
Al Kendall wrote:
Can anyone please tell me how to fix the following script to get the
div the
On 12/14/05, Ric Jude Raftis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try this Al
#content {
padding: 10px;
margin:5px auto;
background-color: #fff;
border: 1px solid #000;
width: 70%; /* remove this because you are setting your margin to auto*/
}
errr...then the div will fill the page...
Apologies...you're right. Leave the width, although I would be setting
it to 760px so it was effectively 100% in 800 x 600 and have margins in
larger resolutions. I really don't understand why people want these
margins though. I feel a site should be fluid to 100% irrespective of
G'day
I feel a site should be fluid to 100% irrespective of
resolution.
While I agree with you in principle... Have you ever seen a site
at 1280x1024 or higher resolution, 100% width and (as some
designers seem to be keen on), microscopic (12px or smaller)
text? Not easy to read.
Yes, I have and in my humble opinion, poor design. Px heights for fonts
are not recommended and will cause problems with higher resolution
monitors at 96px and in future above.
Recommendations are to set font sizes at percentages or ems. I set my
font size to 100% in my body of the css and
I would just like to share the solution to my problem.div#menu a:hover {border-right:0;}I do not understand why this makes IE show the hover text, but it does so I guess I'm happy. If anyone knows why it works please let me now. Otherwise just tuck it into the IE is weird category for future
CSS rules state clearly background-position vertical and horizontal
settings.
I can get a backgound anyplace from center to far right, but cannot get it
any distance from the top???
Is there any reason a backgound would not position with any values to be
down a certain distance from the top?
body
morten fjellman wrote:
I would just like to share the solution to my problem.
div#menu a:hover { border-right:0; }
I do not understand why this makes IE show the hover text, but it
does so I guess I'm happy. If anyone knows why it works please let me
now. Otherwise just tuck it into the IE
Al,
Since, my whole point has been that using a simple layout table, as
opposed to a nested monstrosity, can sometimes be a good thing
I'm glad you are championing my original cause, which somehow got way
off course in the thread.
Not only can a simple table be a good thing, it is still
A trick I've used, though some may not care for this especially, is to
use padding on the top and bottom, such as:
HTML:
ullia href=#My Link/a/li/ul
CSS: (going for 25 pixels high)
li{height:25px;}
li a{font-size:12px;padding-top:6px;padding-bottom:6px;}
Usually its works great, so long as
Bob Schwartz wrote:
I had hoped for some real solutions when I posted my original two
cents, but none came. I can only conclude there are none, yet.
I did think more than Rimantas would pop-up with a quick answer for your
question, Bob:
Which browser can correctly render the
Paula Petrik said:
Using caption seems to pose difficulties.
What difficulties does the caption pose? This is an interesting point
because, in my experience, people have issues with captions *only* becuase
they are used to using a heading when preparing documents in Word which
doesn't have
On Dec 13, 2005, at 1:37 PM, Ric Jude Raftis wrote:
Alt attribute content only provides tool tips in IE because it is a
non-compliant browser. They do not display in other browsers. The
title attribute however, does display in Firefox, but not sure
about Opera et al.
On my tests,
Bob Schwartz said:
I had hoped for some real solutions when I posted my original two
cents, but none came. I can only conclude there are none, yet.
Here's an easy solution: don't create designs that look like they're from
1998 (e.g the 2-col cnet yellow stripe and it's ilk)... there are so
On 12/14/05, Nathan Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nope. It does in fact make the lines higher, but it simple ads more
'space' at the top of the text, not actaully adding it to the top AND
the bottom. It also does nothing to make the image display at its full
height.
Damn. Any other
I'm using a series of definition lists for my syllabus:
http://www.tdrake.net/palomar/100-schedule.html
Ted
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On Behalf Of Paula Petrik
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 9:50 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject:
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On Behalf Of Ben Curtis
Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2005 7:55 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] positive-discrimination === not positive and IMG
properties
so I wrote
an htc called Alt Destroyer that
AFAIK the flash portion of this site was developed with the help of MM to
make it accessible for screen readers.
They *do* offer a text-only version so yes, they can claim to be accessible.
kind regards
Terrence Wood.
Felicity Farr said:
Read the article:
I love the attitude of the big players...provide a text alternative and
it's instantly accessible.
It's a great message.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terrence Wood
Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:25 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
The fact that the text-only version fails basic checkpoints is very
disappointing however. I don't know about the rest of you but I certaily let
them know my feelings via email.
Strength in numbers and all that.
There's been a lot of MM propaganda around of late with regards to
high-profile
Felicity Farr wrote:
I love the attitude of the big players...provide a text alternative and
it's instantly accessible.
...and a direct violation of US Section 508:
A text-only page, with equivalent information or functionality, shall be
provided to make a web site comply with the provisions
Jared Smith wrote:
Felicity Farr wrote:
I love the attitude of the big players...provide a text alternative and
it's instantly accessible.
...and a direct violation of US Section 508:
A text-only page, with equivalent information or functionality, shall
be provided to make a web site comply
On 12/14/05, Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AFAIK the flash portion of this site was developed with the help of MM to
make it accessible for screen readers.
They *do* offer a text-only version so yes, they can claim to be accessible.
Let's put this into perspective:
- Macromedia
Hopefully a quick question, I hoope, as the W3C specs are no help on this
one.
I want to centre align text and justify it at the same time. I've applied
the following mark-up which, surprisingly, does the trick. But can justify
be applied as an optional extra parameter, or does this just work
Stephen Stagg wrote:
Jared Smith wrote:
Felicity Farr wrote:
I love the attitude of the big players...provide a text alternative and
it's instantly accessible.
...
I'm no lawyer, but it sounds to me like using a text-only page as an
excuse for otherwise inaccessible content is a violation.
what are you applying it to? a heading or a paragraph of text?
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From: Paul Noone
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: 15/12/05 14:18
Subject: [WSG] Justify this
Hopefully a quick question, I hoope, as the W3C specs are no help on
this
one.
I want to centre align text
Sorry. A paragraph.
Don't ask me why I'm trying this eitherlet's just call it an exercise.
;)
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On Behalf Of Herrod, Lisa
Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2005 2:30 PM
To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org '
Subject: RE: [WSG]
Paul Noone wrote:
Hopefully a quick question, I hoope, as the W3C specs are no help on this
one.
No, they are usually always helpful but you need to know what you're
looking for.
I want to centre align text and justify it at the same time. I've applied
the following mark-up which,
Hi Lachlan,
Thanks for that but I was actually wanting to center align justified text
for a particular purpose. Evidently my experiment is invalid.
Thanks anyway.
--
Paul A Noone
Webmaster, ASHM
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Justified text really isn't a good idea in terms of usability/readability.
Maybe there was a conscious effort not to support it :)
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From: Paul Noone
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: 15/12/05 14:49
Subject: RE: [WSG] Justify this
Hi Lachlan,
Thanks for that but
Everyone's a comedian today. :P
T'was purely an aesthetic venture for a client and one which I'll now gladly
leave behind. They're getting pre tags and they're just going to have to
live with it. :)
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On Behalf Of Herrod,
Really? Why not?
I wouldn't have said that of justified text, but maybe my response is
an aesthetic one rather than a conscious approach to readability. Is
it something to do with not being able to find the line you were on at
the end/beginning as easily?
(And if we're going to go down this
no, I'm a comedian every day, it's just that I don't post every day :P
but seriously, are you adding paragraphs of justified text to the page...?
(irrespective of which element you're using to mark up).
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From: Paul Noone
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: 15/12/05
We're talking about paragraphs of text here.
It's harder to read, presents 'rivers of white' running through the text as
lines stretch and contract to fit the line. it's unnatural. it's probably
unaustralian somewhere too :)
some links:
Rivers of white:
Well, I've been interested in the whole justified text issue for a while and
think Joshua raises an interesting point. I don't generally use it to style
paragraphs because I personally don't like its appearance but I wasn't aware
there were accessibility concerns.
In this instance I was merely
In answer to your actual original question...
Wouldn't it just involve setting the paragraphs container to
padding: 0 3em; text-align: center;
and then in the paragraph have something like
text-align: justify;
where 3em is the space on either side of the para to make it look centred.
style
Also good is Colin Wheildon paper - Communicating or just making pretty
shapes. It's written for print but has some good stuff.
It used to be available at:
http://www.ianmc.com.au/articles/cojmps.pdf
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On 15/12/05 2:49 PM, Paul Noone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Lachlan,
Thanks for that but I was actually wanting to center align justified text
for a particular purpose. Evidently my experiment is invalid.
Thanks anyway.
Justified text runs full-width and aligns to both left and right
From: Paul Noone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, I've been interested in the whole justified text issue for a
while and
think Joshua raises an interesting point. I don't generally use it
to style
paragraphs because I personally don't like its appearance but I
wasn't aware
there were accessibility
Paul Noone wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Paul Noone wrote:
I want to centre align text and justify it at the same time. I've applied
the following mark-up which, surprisingly, does the trick.
text-align:center justify;
p { width: 50%; margin: 0 auto; text-align: justify; }
Thanks for that
Hi Kevin,
That's just another limitation of the parameter. Justified text actually
comes in several flavours - left, right and both. I believe there are also
settings to use it vertically to fill a box but I'm not even going to begin
to paddle down that white river. ;)
--
Paul A Noone
Hi Lachlan,
My original question was intended to get a simple anser on the limitations
and correct use of justify with text-align, not to open a whole can of worms
on how else I might achive the result. I'll leave that discussion for
anyone else who cares to pursue it.
Thanks for all your
Al Sparber wrote:
From: Paul Noone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, I've been interested in the whole justified text issue for a
while and
think Joshua raises an interesting point. I don't generally use it to
style
paragraphs because I personally don't like its appearance but I wasn't
aware
On 15 Dec 2005, at 2:15 pm, Al Sparber wrote:
If you're into justified text, the only browsers that can do a
reasonable job are IE5.5x+ Windows, using a proprietary property.
The programming is pretty darn good. It's nearly as good as the NY
Times, actually. But it ain't standards and
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