Re: [zfs-discuss] Convert Raid-Z to Mirror

2007-09-15 Thread Brian King
Thanks for your idea. That would be useful if we had the extra space. After playing with a test zpool for a bit, I found that this also works, but you have to make the pool unavailable for a while. I'm just posting it in case it helps someone else. - destroy the raidz pool - reuse one of the

[zfs-discuss] good source for semi-obscure mobos and other components

2007-09-15 Thread Harold Ancell
At 11:23 PM 9/14/2007, Rob Windsor wrote: Tim Cook wrote: Won't come cheap, but this mobo comes with 6x pci-x slots... should get the job done :) http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon1333/5000P/X7DBE-X.cfm Yes, but where do you buy SuperMicro toys? Newegg is the first place

[zfs-discuss] reccomended disk configuration

2007-09-15 Thread Peter Bridge
Hi All, Thanks for the recent info on my controller problems. So now I'm taking a different approach but had a more basic question. I have: 2x150GB SATA ii disks 2x500GB SATA ii disks Is it possible/recommended to have something like a pool of two raidz pools. This will hopefully maximize

Re: [zfs-discuss] reccomended disk configuration

2007-09-15 Thread Mario Goebbels
I have: 2x150GB SATA ii disks 2x500GB SATA ii disks Is it possible/recommended to have something like a pool of two raidz pools. This will hopefully maximize my storage space compared to mirrors, and still give me self healing yes? You can't create a RAID-Z out of two disks. You either

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS RAIDZ vs. RAID5.

2007-09-15 Thread Tuomas Leikola
On 9/10/07, Pawel Jakub Dawidek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem with RAID5 is that different blocks share the same parity, which is not the case for RAIDZ. When you write a block in RAIDZ, you write the data and the parity, and then you switch the pointer in uberblock. For RAID5, you

[zfs-discuss] Project proposal: Block selection policy and space map enhancements

2007-09-15 Thread Victor Latushkin
I'm proposing new project for ZFS community - Block Selection Policy and Space Map Enhancements. Space map[1] is very efficient data structure for keeping track of free space in the metaslabs, but there is at least one area of improvement - space map block selection algorithm which could be

Re: [zfs-discuss] reccomended disk configuration

2007-09-15 Thread Mario Goebbels
Hi, thanks for the tips. I currently using a 2 disk raidz configuration and it seems to work fine, but I'll probably take your advice and use mirrors because I'm finding the raidz a bit slow. What? How would a two disk RAID-Z work, anyway? A three disk RAID-Z missing a disk? 50% of the

[zfs-discuss] ZFS and Live Upgrade

2007-09-15 Thread Coy Hile
Is there any update/work-around/patch/etc as of the S10u4 WOS for the bugs that existed with respect to LU, Zones, and ZFS? More specifically, the following: 6359924 live upgrade needs to include support for zfs I can't even find that bug ID on bugs.opensolaris.org (or via sunsolve when I'm

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Live Upgrade

2007-09-15 Thread Mike Gerdts
On 9/15/07, Coy Hile [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any update/work-around/patch/etc as of the S10u4 WOS for the bugs that existed with respect to LU, Zones, and ZFS? More specifically, the following: 6359924 live upgrade needs to include support for zfs I bet that Live Upgrade never

Re: [zfs-discuss] hardware sizing for a zfs-based system?

2007-09-15 Thread Kent Watsen
Hey Adam, My first posting contained my use-cases, but I'd say that video recording/serving will dominate the disk utilization - thats why I'm pushing for 4 striped sets of RAIDZ2 - I think that it would be all around goodness It sounds good, that way, but (in theory), you'll see random

Re: [zfs-discuss] hardware sizing for a zfs-based system?

2007-09-15 Thread Kent Watsen
Nit: small, random read I/O may suffer. Large random read or any random write workloads should be ok. Given that video-serving is all sequential-read, is it correct that that raidz2, specifically 4(4+2), would be just fine? For 24 data disks there are enough combinations that it is not

Re: [zfs-discuss] hardware sizing for a zfs-based system?

2007-09-15 Thread Kent Watsen
Sorry, but looking again at the RMP page, I see that the chassis I recommended is actually different than the one we have. I can't find this chassis only online, but here's what we bought: http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i10561/intel-storage-server.php?cat=625 That is such a cool looking

Re: [zfs-discuss] hardware sizing for a zfs-based system?

2007-09-15 Thread Kent Watsen
[CC-ing xen-discuss regarding question below] Probably a 64 bit dual core with 4GB of (ECC) RAM would be a good starting point. Agreed. So I was completely out of a the ball-park - I hope the ZFS Wiki can be updated to contain some sensible hardware-sizing information... One option I'm

Re: [zfs-discuss] reccomended disk configuration

2007-09-15 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
On 9/15/07, Mario Goebbels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't create a RAID-Z out of two disks. You either have to go with two mirrors (150GB and 500GB) in a pool, or the funkier variation of a RAID-Z and mirror (4x150GB and a 350GB mirror). Actually, you can. It may not make sense but it is

Re: [zfs-discuss] reccomended disk configuration

2007-09-15 Thread Wee Yeh Tan
On 9/15/07, Peter Bridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have: 2x150GB SATA ii disks 2x500GB SATA ii disks I will go with a mirror. You need at least 500GB in parity anyway (since you want to survive any disk failure). That means the maximum you can get out of this setup is 800GB. With a mirror,

[zfs-discuss] ZFS storage appliance?

2007-09-15 Thread Nate B
I've been doing a lot of reading about ZFS lately, and I'm quite enamored of its design goals. The reliability considerations are particularly attractive, and the snapshot scheme is more robust than anything I'm familiar with. I would very much like to keep my personal data in such a

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS storage appliance?

2007-09-15 Thread MC
That doesn't exist yet because everything about OpenSolaris is pretty young. The demand is there though because there is a constant stream of people interested in ZFS as a home file archive system. By the time Indiana is off its feet, popularity will grow, the distro constructor will exist,