Re: [zfs-discuss] Terrible zfs performance under NFS load

2008-08-03 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Paul Fisher wrote: Syslog is funny in that it does a lot of open/write/close cycles so that rotate can work trivially. Those are meta-data updates and on NFS each implies a COMMIT. This leads us back to the old solaris nfs over zfs is slow discussion, where we talk

Re: [zfs-discuss] Terrible zfs performance under NFS load

2008-08-01 Thread Chris Siebenmann
| Syslog is funny in that it does a lot of open/write/close cycles so | that rotate can work trivially. I don't know of any version of syslog that does this (certainly Solaris 10 U5 syslog does not). The traditional syslog(d) performance issue is that it fsync()'s after writing each log message,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Terrible zfs performance under NFS load

2008-08-01 Thread Miles Nordin
cs == Chris Siebenmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cs (Some versions of syslog let you turn this off for specific cs log files, which is very useful for high volume, low cs importance ones.) To ensure that kernel messages are written to disk promptly, syslogd(8)

[zfs-discuss] Terrible zfs performance under NFS load

2008-07-31 Thread Stephen Stogner
Hello, We have a S10U5 server sharing with zfs sharing up NFS shares. While using the nfs mount for a log destination for syslog for 20 or so busy mail servers we have noticed that the throughput becomes severly degraded shortly. I have tried disabling the zil, turning off cache flushing

Re: [zfs-discuss] Terrible zfs performance under NFS load

2008-07-31 Thread Paul Fisher
Stephen Stogner wrote: Hello, We have a S10U5 server sharing with zfs sharing up NFS shares. While using the nfs mount for a log destination for syslog for 20 or so busy mail servers we have noticed that the throughput becomes severly degraded shortly. I have tried disabling the zil,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Terrible zfs performance under NFS load

2008-07-31 Thread Richard Elling
Stephen Stogner wrote: Hello, We have a S10U5 server sharing with zfs sharing up NFS shares. While using the nfs mount for a log destination for syslog for 20 or so busy mail servers we have noticed that the throughput becomes severly degraded shortly. I have tried disabling the zil,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Terrible zfs performance under NFS load

2008-07-31 Thread Stephen Stogner
True we could have all the syslog data be directed towards the host but the underlying issue remains the same with the performance hit. We have used nfs shares for log hosts and mail hosts and we are looking towards using a zfs based mail store with nfs moutnts from x mail servers but if

Re: [zfs-discuss] Terrible zfs performance under NFS load

2008-07-31 Thread Paul Fisher
Stephen Stogner wrote: True we could have all the syslog data be directed towards the host but the underlying issue remains the same with the performance hit. We have used nfs shares for log hosts and mail hosts and we are looking towards using a zfs based mail store with nfs moutnts from

Re: [zfs-discuss] Terrible zfs performance under NFS load

2008-07-31 Thread Richard Elling
Stephen Stogner wrote: True we could have all the syslog data be directed towards the host but the underlying issue remains the same with the performance hit. We have used nfs shares for log hosts and mail hosts and we are looking towards using a zfs based mail store with nfs moutnts from