[zfs-discuss] impressive

2007-02-01 Thread Dennis Clarke
boldly plowing forwards I request a few disks/vdevs to be mirrored all at the same time : bash-3.2# zpool status zfs0 pool: zfs0 state: ONLINE scrub: resilver completed with 0 errors on Thu Feb 1 04:17:58 2007 config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM zfs0

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS inode equivalent

2007-02-01 Thread Darren J Moffat
Neil Perrin wrote: No it's not the final version or even the latest! The current on disk format version is 3. However, it hasn't diverged much and the znode/acl stuff hasn't changed. and it will get updated as part of zfs-crypto, I just haven't done so yet because I'm not finished designing

[zfs-discuss] ZFS checksums - block or file level

2007-02-01 Thread Nathan Essex
I am trying to understand if zfs checksums apply at a file or a block level. We know that zfs provides end to end checksum integrity, and I assumed that when I write a file to a zfs filesystem, the checksum was calculated at a file level, as opposed to say, a block level. However, I have

[zfs-discuss] Re: UFS on zvol: volblocksize and maxcontig

2007-02-01 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I hope there will be consideration given to providing compatibility with UFS quotas (except that inode limits would be ignored). At least to the point of having edquota(1m) quot(1m) quota(1m) quotactl(7i) repquota(1m) rquotad(1m) and possibly quotactl(7i) work with zfs (with the exception

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS checksums - block or file level

2007-02-01 Thread Jeremy Teo
On 2/1/07, Nathan Essex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to understand if zfs checksums apply at a file or a block level. We know that zfs provides end to end checksum integrity, and I assumed that when I write a file to a zfs filesystem, the checksum was calculated at a file level, as

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS checksums - block or file level

2007-02-01 Thread Neil Perrin
ZFS checksums are at the block level. Nathan Essex wrote On 02/01/07 08:27,: I am trying to understand if zfs checksums apply at a file or a block level. We know that zfs provides end to end checksum integrity, and I assumed that when I write a file to a zfs filesystem, the checksum was

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS checksums - block or file level

2007-02-01 Thread Darren J Moffat
Nathan Essex wrote: Thank You, so that means that even if I use something that writes raw i/o to a zfs emulated volume, I still get the checksum protection, and hence data corruption protection. yes it does. Also consider how BAD performance could be if it were actually calculated on a per

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS checksums - block or file level

2007-02-01 Thread Richard Elling
Neil Perrin wrote: ZFS checksums are at the block level. This has been causing some confusion lately, so perhaps we could say: ZFS checksums are at the file system block level, not to be confused with the disk block level or transport block level. -- richard

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS or UFS - what to do?

2007-02-01 Thread Marion Hakanson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: That is the part of your setup that puzzled me. You took the same 7 disk raid5 set and split them into 9 LUNS. The Hitachi likely splits the virtual disk into 9 continuous partitions so each LUN maps back to different parts of the 7 disks. I speculate that ZFS thinks

Re: [zfs-discuss] hot spares - in standby?

2007-02-01 Thread Al Hopper
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand all the math involved with RAID 5/6 and failure rates, but its wise to remember that even if the probabilities are small they aren't zero. :) Agreed. Another thing I've seen, is that if you have an A/C (Air Conditioning) event in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: What SATA controllers are people using for ZFS?

2007-02-01 Thread Al Hopper
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Tom Buskey wrote: [i] I got an Addonics eSata card. Sata 3.0. PCI *or* PCI-X. Works right off the bat w/ 10u3. No firmware update needed. It was $130. But I don't pull out my hair and I can use it if I upgrade my server for pci-x [/i] And I'm finding the throughput

Re: [zfs-discuss] FYI: ZFS on USB sticks (from Germany)

2007-02-01 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Feb 1, 2007, at 10:51 AM, Richard Elling wrote: FYI, here is an interesting blog on using ZFS with a dozen USB drives from Constantin. http://blogs.sun.com/solarium/entry/solaris_zfs_auf_12_usb My German is somewhat rusty, but I see that Google Translate does a respectable

[zfs-discuss] ZFS limits on zpool snapshots

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Moloney
The ZFS On-Disk specification and other ZFS documentation describe the labeling scheme used for the vdevs that comprise a ZFS pool. A label entry contains, among other things, an array of uberblocks, one of which will point to the active object set of the pool it is a part of at a given

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS limits on zpool snapshots

2007-02-01 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/01/2007 01:17:15 PM: The ZFS On-Disk specification and other ZFS documentation describe the labeling scheme used for the vdevs that comprise a ZFS pool. A label entry contains, among other things, an array of uberblocks, one of which will point to the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS limits on zpool snapshots

2007-02-01 Thread Darren Dunham
Recreation of the active uberblock would occur, for example, if we took a snapshot of the pool and changes were then made anywhere in the pool. The uberblock is updated quite often, not just on snapshots. Since a new uberblock is required in this snapshot scenario, and since it appears that

[zfs-discuss] ZFS and thin provisioning

2007-02-01 Thread Andre Lue
I found this article (http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=729) but I have 2 questions. I am trying the steps on Opensolaris build 54. Since you create the filesystem with newfs, isn't that really a ufs filesystem running on top of zfs? Also I haven't been able to do anything in

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS limits on zpool snapshots

2007-02-01 Thread Andre Lue
As far as I know the recalled on paper number of snapshots you can have in a filesystem is 2^48. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and thin provisioning

2007-02-01 Thread Darren Dunham
I found this article (http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=729) but I have 2 questions. I am trying the steps on Opensolaris build 54. Since you create the filesystem with newfs, isn't that really a ufs filesystem running on top of zfs? In this case, yes. I wonder if you could

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and thin provisioning

2007-02-01 Thread Darren Dunham
In this case, yes. I wonder if you could create a second zfs pool on the volume. (Starting such pools at boot time might be problematic though!). The idea is that you have sparse raw storage available to you. The example placed a UFS filesystem on it, but you could do otherwise. Followup

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: What SATA controllers are people using for ZFS?

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Little
On 2/1/07, Al Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Tom Buskey wrote: [i] I got an Addonics eSata card. Sata 3.0. PCI *or* PCI-X. Works right off the bat w/ 10u3. No firmware update needed. It was $130. But I don't pull out my hair and I can use it if I upgrade my server for

[zfs-discuss] ZFS vs NFS vs array caches, revisited

2007-02-01 Thread Marion Hakanson
I had followed with interest the turn off NV cache flushing thread, in regard to doing ZFS-backed NFS on our low-end Hitachi array: http://www.mail-archive.com/zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org/msg05000.html In short, if you have non-volatile cache, you can configure the array to ignore the ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS checksums - block or file level

2007-02-01 Thread Victor Latushkin
Richard Elling wrote: Neil Perrin wrote: ZFS checksums are at the block level. This has been causing some confusion lately, so perhaps we could say: ZFS checksums are at the file system block level, not to be confused with the disk block level or transport block level. Saying that ZFS