[zfs-discuss] osol monitoring question

2010-05-10 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
Hi all It seems that if using zfs, the usual tools like vmstat, sar, top etc are quite worthless, since zfs i/o load is not reported as iowait etc. Are there any plans to rewrite the old performance monitoring tools or the zfs parts to allow for standard monitoring tools? If not, what other

Re: [zfs-discuss] osol monitoring question

2010-05-10 Thread Michael Schuster
On 10.05.10 08:57, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: Hi all It seems that if using zfs, the usual tools like vmstat, sar, top etc are quite worthless, since zfs i/o load is not reported as iowait etc. Are there any plans to rewrite the old performance monitoring tools or the zfs parts to allow for

Re: [zfs-discuss] osol monitoring question

2010-05-10 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
- Michael Schuster michael.schus...@oracle.com skrev: On 10.05.10 08:57, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: Hi all It seems that if using zfs, the usual tools like vmstat, sar, top etc are quite worthless, since zfs i/o load is not reported as iowait etc. Are there any plans to rewrite the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best practice for full stystem backup - equivelent of ufsdump/ufsrestore

2010-05-10 Thread Euan Thoms
erik.ableson said: Just a quick comment for the send/recv operations, adding -R makes it recursive so you only need one line to send the rpool and all descendant filesystems. Yes, I know of the -R flag, but it doesn't seem to work with sending loose snapshots to the backup pool. It obviously

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedup stats per file system

2010-05-10 Thread Darren J Moffat
On 08/05/2010 21:45, P-O Yliniemi wrote: I have noticed that dedup is discussed a lot in this list right now.. Starting to experiment with dedup=on, I feel it would be interesting in knowing exactly how efficient dedup is. The problem is that I've found no way of checking this per file system.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Hard disk buffer at 100%

2010-05-10 Thread Emily Grettel
Hi Eric, Problem is the OP is mixing client 4k drives with 512b drives. How do you come to that assesment? Here's what I have: Ap_Id Information sata1/1::dsk/c7t1d0Mod: WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1 FRev: 01.01A01 sata1/2::dsk/c7t2d0Mod: WDC

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirroring USB Drive with Laptop for Backup purposes

2010-05-10 Thread Matt Keenan
On 05/ 7/10 10:07 PM, Bill McGonigle wrote: On 05/07/2010 11:08 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I'm going to continue encouraging you to staying mainstream, because what people do the most is usually what's supported the best. If I may be the contrarian, I hope Matt keeps experimenting with

[zfs-discuss] Problems (bug?) with slow bulk ZFS filesystem creation

2010-05-10 Thread charles
Hi, This thread refers to Solaris 10, but it was suggested that I post it here as ZFS developers may well be more likely to respond. http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5438393messageID=10986502#10986502 Basically after about ZFS 1000 filesystem creations the creation time slows down

[zfs-discuss] Daily snapshots as replacement for incremental backups

2010-05-10 Thread Gabriele Bulfon
Hello, I have a situation where a zfs file server holding lots of graphic files cannot be backed up daily with a full backup. My idea was initially to run a full backup on Sunday through the lto library on more dedicated tapes, then have an incremental backup run on daily tapes. Brainstorming on

Re: [zfs-discuss] Daily snapshots as replacement for incremental backups

2010-05-10 Thread Erik Trimble
Gabriele Bulfon wrote: Hello, I have a situation where a zfs file server holding lots of graphic files cannot be backed up daily with a full backup. My idea was initially to run a full backup on Sunday through the lto library on more dedicated tapes, then have an incremental backup run on

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems (bug?) with slow bulk ZFS filesystem creation

2010-05-10 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 10 May, 2010 - charles sent me these 0,8K bytes: Hi, This thread refers to Solaris 10, but it was suggested that I post it here as ZFS developers may well be more likely to respond. http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5438393messageID=10986502#10986502 Basically after about

Re: [zfs-discuss] Dedup stats per file system

2010-05-10 Thread P-O Yliniemi
Darren J Moffat skrev 2010-05-10 10:58: On 08/05/2010 21:45, P-O Yliniemi wrote: I have noticed that dedup is discussed a lot in this list right now.. Starting to experiment with dedup=on, I feel it would be interesting in knowing exactly how efficient dedup is. The problem is that I've found

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems (bug?) with slow bulk ZFS filesystem creation

2010-05-10 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
- charles ce...@cam.ac.uk skrev: Hi, This thread refers to Solaris 10, but it was suggested that I post it here as ZFS developers may well be more likely to respond. http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5438393messageID=10986502#10986502 Basically after about ZFS 1000

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems (bug?) with slow bulk ZFS filesystem creation

2010-05-10 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk r...@karlsbakk.net skrev: - charles ce...@cam.ac.uk skrev: Hi, This thread refers to Solaris 10, but it was suggested that I post it here as ZFS developers may well be more likely to respond.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Plugging in a hard drive after Solaris has booted up?

2010-05-10 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: Run |cfgadm -cconfigure |on the unconfigured Ids|, see the man page for the gory details.| IF the BIOS is OK ;-) I have a problem with a DELL PC: If I disable the other SATA ports, Solaris is unable to detect new drives (linux does). If I enable other

Re: [zfs-discuss] osol monitoring question

2010-05-10 Thread Richard Elling
On May 10, 2010, at 12:16 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: - Michael Schuster michael.schus...@oracle.com skrev: On 10.05.10 08:57, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote: Hi all It seems that if using zfs, the usual tools like vmstat, sar, top etc are quite worthless, since zfs i/o load is not

Re: [zfs-discuss] osol monitoring question

2010-05-10 Thread Peter Tribble
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk r...@karlsbakk.net wrote: Hi all It seems that if using zfs, the usual tools like vmstat, sar, top etc are quite worthless, since zfs i/o load is not reported as iowait etc. Are there any plans to rewrite the old performance monitoring

[zfs-discuss] zfs performance issue

2010-05-10 Thread Abhishek Gupta
Hi, I just installed OpenSolaris on my Dell Optiplex 755 and created raidz2 with a few slices on a single disk. I was expecting a good read/write performance but I got the speed of 12-15MBps. How can I enhance the read/write performance of my raid? Thanks, Abhi.

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs performance issue

2010-05-10 Thread Erik Trimble
Abhishek Gupta wrote: Hi, I just installed OpenSolaris on my Dell Optiplex 755 and created raidz2 with a few slices on a single disk. I was expecting a good read/write performance but I got the speed of 12-15MBps. How can I enhance the read/write performance of my raid? Thanks, Abhi. You

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Comstar iSCSI BLK size

2010-05-10 Thread Brandon High
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Geoff Nordli geo...@gnaa.net wrote: I am looking at using 8K block size on the zfs volume. 8k is the default for zvols. I was looking at the comstar iscsi settings and there is also a blk size configuration, which defaults as 512 bytes. That would make me

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Comstar iSCSI BLK size

2010-05-10 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
- Brandon High bh...@freaks.com skrev: On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Geoff Nordli geo...@gnaa.net wrote: I am looking at using 8K block size on the zfs volume. 8k is the default for zvols. So with a 1TB zbol with default blocksize, dedup is done on 8k blocks? If so, some 32 gigs of

Re: [zfs-discuss] How can I be sure the zfs send | zfs received is correct?

2010-05-10 Thread Brandon High
On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Jim Horng jho...@stretchinc.com wrote: zfs send tank/export/projects/project1...@today | zfs receive -d mpool This won't get any snapshots before @today, which may lead to the received size being smaller. I've also noticed that different pool types (eg: raidz

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirrored Servers

2010-05-10 Thread Maurice Volaski
It sounds like you are looking for AVS. Consider a replication scenario where A is primary and B, secondary and A fails. Say you get A up again on Monday AM, but you are unable to summarily shut down B to bring A back online until Friday evening. During that whole time, you will not have a

Re: [zfs-discuss] How can I be sure the zfs send | zfs received is correct?

2010-05-10 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
- Jim Horng jho...@stretchinc.com skrev: zfs send tank/export/projects/project1...@today | zfs receive -d mpool Perhaps zfs send -R is what you're looking for... roy -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk (+47) 97542685 r...@karlsbakk.net http://blogg.karlsbakk.net/ -- I all pedagogikk er det essensielt

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirroring USB Drive with Laptop for Backup purposes

2010-05-10 Thread Miles Nordin
bh == Brandon High bh...@freaks.com writes: bh The drive should be on the same USB port because the device bh path is saved in the zpool.cache. If you removed the bh zpool.cache, it wouldn't matter where the drive was plugged bh in. I thought it was supposed to go by devid.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is it safe to disable the swap partition?

2010-05-10 Thread Richard Elling
On May 10, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 10 May 2010, Thomas Tornblom wrote: Sorry, but this is incorrect. Solaris (2 if you will) does indeed swap processes in case normal paging is deemed insufficient. See the chapters on Soft and Hard swapping in:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is it safe to disable the swap partition?

2010-05-10 Thread Miles Nordin
mg == Mike Gerdts mger...@gmail.com writes: mg If Solaris is under memory pressure, [...] mg The best thing to do with processes that can be swapped out mg forever is to not run them. Many programs allocate memory they never use. Linux allows overcommitting by default (but

Re: [zfs-discuss] How can I be sure the zfs send | zfs received is correct?

2010-05-10 Thread Jim Horng
I was expecting zfs send tank/export/projects/project1...@today would send everything up to @today. That is the only snapshot and I am not using the -i options. The things worries me is that tank/export/projects/project1_nb was the first file system that I tested with full dedup and

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import hanging

2010-05-10 Thread Eduardo Bragatto
Hi again, As for the NFS issue I mentioned before, I made sure the NFS server was working and was able to export before I attempted to import anything, then I started a new zpool import backup: -- my hope was that the NFS share was causing the issue, since the only filesystem shared is

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import hanging

2010-05-10 Thread John Balestrini
Howdy Eduardo, Recently I had a similar issue where the pool wouldn't import and attempting to import it would essentially lock the server up. Finally I used pfexec zpool import -F pool1 and simply let it do it's thing. After almost 60 hours the imported finished and all has been well since

[zfs-discuss] Time Slider in Solaris10

2010-05-10 Thread Mary Ellen Fitzpatrick
Is Time Slider available in Solaris10? Or just in Opensolaris? I am running Solaris 10 5/09 s10x_u7wos_08 X86 and wanted to automate my snapshots. From reading blogs, seems zfs-auto-snapshot is obsolete and was/is being replaced by time-slider. But I can not seem to find it for Solaris10.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Time Slider in Solaris10

2010-05-10 Thread John Balestrini
I believe that Time Slider is just a front end for zfs-auto-snapshot. John On May 10, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Mary Ellen Fitzpatrick wrote: Is Time Slider available in Solaris10? Or just in Opensolaris? I am running Solaris 10 5/09 s10x_u7wos_08 X86 and wanted to automate my snapshots. From

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import hanging

2010-05-10 Thread Eduardo Bragatto
On May 10, 2010, at 4:46 PM, John Balestrini wrote: Recently I had a similar issue where the pool wouldn't import and attempting to import it would essentially lock the server up. Finally I used pfexec zpool import -F pool1 and simply let it do it's thing. After almost 60 hours the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Time Slider in Solaris10

2010-05-10 Thread Mary Ellen Fitzpatrick
Oh.. thanks.. I did download the latest zfs-auto-snapshot: zfs-snapshot-0.11.2 Is there a more recent version? John Balestrini wrote: I believe that Time Slider is just a front end for zfs-auto-snapshot. John On May 10, 2010, at 1:17 PM, Mary Ellen Fitzpatrick wrote: Is Time

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Comstar iSCSI BLK size

2010-05-10 Thread Geoff Nordli
-Original Message- From: Brandon High [mailto:bh...@freaks.com] Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:55 AM On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Geoff Nordli geo...@gnaa.net wrote: I am looking at using 8K block size on the zfs volume. 8k is the default for zvols. You are right, I didn't look at

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import hanging

2010-05-10 Thread Cindy Swearingen
Hi Eduardo, Please use the following steps to collect more information: 1. Use the following command to get the PID of the zpool import process, like this: # ps -ef | grep zpool 2. Use the actual PID of zpool import found in step 1 in the following command, like this: echo 0tPID of zpool

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import hanging

2010-05-10 Thread Eduardo Bragatto
On May 10, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Cindy Swearingen wrote: Hi Eduardo, Please use the following steps to collect more information: 1. Use the following command to get the PID of the zpool import process, like this: # ps -ef | grep zpool 2. Use the actual PID of zpool import found in step 1 in

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Comstar iSCSI BLK size

2010-05-10 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Geoff Nordli geo...@gnaa.net wrote: You are right, I didn't look at that property, and instead I was focused on the record size property. zvols don't have a recordsize - That's a property of filesystem datasets, not volumes. When I look at the stmfadm llift-lu

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and Comstar iSCSI BLK size

2010-05-10 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Geoff Nordli geo...@gnaa.net wrote: Doesn't this alignment have more to do with aligning writes to the stripe/segment size of a traditional storage array?  The articles I am It is a lot like a stripe / segment size. If you want to think of it in those terms,

Re: [zfs-discuss] CR# 6574286, remove slog device

2010-05-10 Thread Moshe Vainer
Did the fix for 6733267 make it to 134a (2010.05)? It isn't marked fixed, and i couldn't find it anywhere in the changelogs. Does that mean we'll have to wait for 2010.11 (or whatever v+2 is named)? Thanks, Moshe -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

[zfs-discuss] Any experience with an OCZ Z-Drive R2 with ZFS

2010-05-10 Thread Richard PALO
After a rather fruitless non-committal exchange with OCZ, I'd like to know if there is any experience in this community with the OCZ Z-Drive... In particular, is it possible (and worthwhile) to put the device in jbod as opposed to raid-0 mode... an entry-level flashfire f20 'sort' of card...