All responses off list please.
Please people, it's common sense to read emails before you reply to
them. :-)
It's even more common sense not to ask for off-list answers to a on-list
post...
m.
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b.n. wrote:
All responses off list please.
Please people, it's common sense to read emails before you reply to
them. :-)
It's even more common sense not to ask for off-list answers to a
on-list post...
m.
Plus some of us like to read them. ;-)
Dale
:-) :-)
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On 06/01/2024 00:54, John Blinka wrote:
I’ve often found that it gives one estimate when multiple packages are
being built, then a much longer estimate for still-in-progress builds
once some of the builds have finished.
That result defies common sense. Less remaining work has to take less
quoth the Dale:
b.n. wrote:
All responses off list please.
Please people, it's common sense to read emails before you reply to
them. :-)
It's even more common sense not to ask for off-list answers to a
on-list post...
m.
Plus some of us like to read them. ;-)
Really
On 9/7/06, Chris White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All responses off list please. Please people, it's common sense to read emails before you reply to them. :-)-- David Granthttp://www.davidgrant.ca
builds have finished.
> >
> > That result defies common sense. Less remaining work has to take less,
> > not more (much more), time.
>
> Common sense isn't common and, well, often doesn't make sense.
>
> If there's a bunch of small builds skewing the "time per build" esti
I think you confused my message. When I said I've always been told...
I didn't mean I was told it was part of the standard, I mean it is
common knowledge, common sense, rule-of-thumb, best practice --
whatever. Yes there is FHS but I don't consider it the Bible. most
distros break FHS in some
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:15:13 -0400, James Homuth wrote:
My instinct tells me unmerge the current version, emerge the new version
sans dependancy, then update world. But common sense is trying to tell
me that's likely to cause all kinds of sideways breakage.
They're only man pages, removing
Nicholas Hockey wrote:
I don't know why ppl just want to bitch about top posting and HTML?
just because you *can* do it, doesn't mean you should. General common
sense. I'd much rather fill up my harddrive with mp3's rather than 400
replies that top post the original, which basically mean you
: scofflaw on EFnetThanks!--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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the
information.
W
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because they d \phi common-sense.
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Hi,
Currentlu my newly created system is installed on a harrdisk, which
sit in a docking station connect via USB to my PC.
The system is intended to be complete in the sense, that can
boot bu itsself without accessing any other storage device.
What is the most common behaviour here:
If I change
of common sense, I just choose to ignore it. --- Calvin
David Morgan wrote:
It's not kernel related, it's glibc telling you that you screwed up with
memory allocation somewhere.
The only 'fix' is to fix your code, so no one can help without seeing it
(apart from maybe listing some common mistakes that cause this).
Okay. My difference is that I
on this list is higher than, say, on
the forums? Or the IRC channels?
From the OPs, no. Any newcomers with zero knowledge are welcome to ask
questions on this list. It's just a matter of trying to use provide useful
info, trying to apply common sense, being responsive and trying to learn from
-headers it warns me that
!!! 'sys-kernel/linux-headers' is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
Common sense tells me that anything 2.6.19 renders all things
obsolete that relate to 2.6.17. Am I right?
Also, where is it recorded that linux-headers 2.6.17
and the system just crashed. I don't see anything in any logs at all
prior to the crash.
W
--
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character attributes of New Yorkers, common sense snuck in
at number 79.
When it's fall in New York, the air smells as if someone's
been frying
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Willie Wong wwong at math.princeton.edu writes:
I built my tables using the commandline. A good quick intro guide is
at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml , section 5.
Nice ref.
My philosophy is common sense. I white list those ips that I want to
be able to access
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 01:33:38 -0500, Dale wrote:
Naturally this returned a lot so we have to use common sense before
deleting something. That said, what about these:
/usr/bin/cc
/usr/bin/c++
/usr/bin/c89
/usr/bin/gcc
/usr/bin/gcov
/usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-c++
I think
after studying Logic
than he could before, if he is sincere about it and has common sense.
--- Carveth Read, “Logic”
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, which I am
relatively certain handles the same types of plugins that FF and
Chromium do.
--- Mike
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--- Carveth Read
, but doesn't have have the right one.
Are there any firmware-related messages in your dmesg?
--- Mike
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2!
*ducks*
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by disabling the boot-up logo.
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deliberately, manages it better after studying Logic
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that is common sense.
A core piece of KDE didn't work for you, and you need that core piece
to work right.
I wouldn't call KDEPIM a core piece of KDE. If it were core, it probably
wouldn't have been allowed to get into the state it is in.
--
Neil Bothwick
Linux like wigwam. No windows, no gates
Logic
than he could before, if he is sincere about it and has common sense.
--- Carveth Read, “Logic”
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it better after studying Logic
than he could before, if he is sincere about it and has common sense.
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On 10/30/2012 9:26 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Actually, I hadn't tried that. I use channel 8 and this is at my house.
I've only ever seen 2 other neighbour's APs show up and they both use
channel 1.
But then common sense kicked in. All previous APs have been 802.11g,
this is the first 802.11g
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 04:52:47 -0500
Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
It's my sincere hope that someone's persistence hammered some common
sense and email etiquette into his attitude.
Other Gentoo Developers did; but, I'll make an exception for this list.
The mailing list
message.
Oh, lose the dollar sign. It's common to prepend a dollar sign to a name
to signify that it's a variable. It borrows from shell, perl, PHP, etc.
which all do something similar for variables. It's ugly and redundant
there, but email is actually one place where I think it makes sense.
On 22/03/15 17:58, Philip Webb wrote:
Because of that, the default of allowing ctrl+alt+del for local users
makes more sense than disabling it.
That doesn't follow : if you have multiple users,
you don't want some rogue user rebooting randomly
You can't stop a local user from doing
On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 11:21 PM wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Currentlu my newly created system is installed on a harrdisk, which
> sit in a docking station connect via USB to my PC.
>
> The system is intended to be complete in the sense, that can
> boot bu itsself without accessing
On 4/5/20 11:21 PM, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
Hi,
Currentlu my newly created system is installed on a harrdisk, which
sit in a docking station connect via USB to my PC.
The system is intended to be complete in the sense, that can
boot bu itsself without accessing any other storage device.
What
On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 at 01:28, Steven Lembark wrote:
>
> Before I spend a lot of time backtracking all of this...
>
> Q: Are either of these issues well-known pathologies of emerge?
Python target troubles are indeed common around major python version
upgrades, which we've had
has PHP installed as a module.
Thanks for the attention,
Raphael.
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deliberately, manages it better after studying Logic
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is invariably shorter.
I think that as long as common sense prevails we should be able to nail this
one to most participants satisfaction.
PS. On the other hand one would think that common sense ought to also help to
avoid top posting and html messages /sigh
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. Common sense always prevails. Of course a
person cleaning out an /etc/ dir that you hasn't been cleaned out in
five years is going to require considerably more common sense than one
who cleaned theirs out last month.
I've also modified the script to exclude /usr/portage and /usr/local
(they were
and so are not recorded by
portage as belonging to a package. Common sense always prevails. Of
course a person cleaning out an /etc/ dir that you hasn't been
cleaned out in five years is going to require considerably more
common sense than one who cleaned theirs out last month.
I've also modified
know that play can do it itself... sox needs
better documentation)
play -n -c1 synth 10.0 waveform
waveforms that I've tried: saw, sine, square
Have fun.
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--
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character attributes of New Yorkers, common sense snuck in
at number 79
I'm having trouble compiling modules since I moved to
vanilla-sources-2.6.24-rc6 from hardened-sources-2.6.23-r4. My
/usr/src/linux link is correct but alsa-driver, vmware-modules,
acer_acpi, and madwifi-ng all fail. I can't seem to find a common
denominator between the errors:
1.
Preparing
tells me unmerge the current version, emerge the new version
sans dependancy, then update world. But common sense is trying to tell me
that's likely to cause all kinds of sideways breakage. Is there a better way
to go about that process. I know I've installed this on both my servers, but
I think man
is the best approach.
Yep.
Alexander Skwar
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It is common sense to take a method and try it. If it fails,
admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something.
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt
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to understand
because they d \phi common-sense.
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and to what extent you want to quote
someone.
I think this whole thread is common sense. To me anyway. You give a
short little quote to refresh people's memory of what you're replying
to and give it just enough context without it getting too long and
right under the quote you put your own
did all this as root.thanks in advancebye--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
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into there first and use common sense :) For that avifile stuff, I have no idea which package it came from, but probably you can remove it too (or is it something installed not from portage?)
I think some libraries are really broken, because the sound of my vlc player stutters sometimes lately.I don't suppose
-2.6.19-r1 using genkernel).
When I run emerge -C linux-headers it warns me that
!!! 'sys-kernel/linux-headers' is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
which is correct.
Common sense tells me that anything 2.6.19 renders all things
obsolete
of power in the hands of
a few people. But when people are denied an appeal and devrel unilaterally
decides, ignoring policies and common sense, what is one supposed to think?
Developer Relations haven't denied any appeals at all. You'll have to
back this statement up with facts if you want
have plenty of common sense, I just choose to ignore it.
--- Calvin
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the SSH is listening.Apache has PHP installed as a module.
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On Tuesday 22 September 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
What's with Linux support of external drives? Is it just not reliable
enough to depend on? This was not a drive failure but just a bunch of
sense code message problems and everything quit. I probably could have
spent time removing drivers, etc
of their coffee cups?
It seems to be increasingly unreasonable to expect a certain amount of
common sense and willingness to help oneself, even among Gentoo users.
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and exec lines) into the configuration file
when grub(2)-mkconfig is run.
For the paranoid, you can put a failsafe boot option in that file.
--- Mike
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than he could before, if he is sincere about it and has common sense
system stopped booting. Now most of
those are Windows breakages. :-)
--- Mike
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, or will any newer
one support your card? Which chipset is your card using?
--- Mike
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Other than that, though, you should be good.
--- Mike
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radical. I would say that is common sense.
A core piece of KDE didn't work for you, and you need that core piece
to work right. You probably need and want to work in a consistent DE
also.
So, the thing to do is to move to something that does work. Being that
you need a complete DE, you tried out
used to it but I like it.
No, I wouldn't say that's radical. I would say that is common sense.
A core piece of KDE didn't work for you, and you need that core
piece to work right.
I wouldn't call KDEPIM a core piece of KDE. If it were core, it
probably wouldn't have been allowed
the scroll-up/scroll-down trickery every time I start
a stream in Banshee or Rhythmbox.
--- Mike
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thing that I don't fully have
that I want. That, and I want to check out the GNOME boxes feature...)
--- Mike
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1.
But then common sense kicked in. All previous APs have been 802.11g,
this is the first 802.11g, and it sits next to a cordless phone. I
really should mount the AP up high and extend the cable.
--
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alan.mckin...@gmail.com
On 23/03/2014 12:11, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 04:52:47 -0500
Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
It's my sincere hope that someone's persistence hammered some common
sense and email etiquette into his attitude.
Other Gentoo Developers did; but, I'll make
On 3/23/2014 12:06 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23/03/2014 12:11, Tom Wijsman wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2014 04:52:47 -0500
Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote:
It's my sincere hope that someone's persistence hammered some common
sense and email etiquette
database $temp;
I'm getting an error message.
Oh, lose the dollar sign. It's common to prepend a dollar sign to a name
to signify that it's a variable. It borrows from shell, perl, PHP, etc.
which all do something similar for variables. It's ugly and redundant
there, but email is actually one
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerarmin at googlemail.com writes:
who told you that 'bloated' buzz word? The same people who told you
about 'the cloud' or 'web 2.0'?
Nobody, common sense from practicle experience. Here's what you
*should* do to experince just how bloated most desktops have become
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:
Well, we've found 2 projects that at least in part seek to achieve our
general goals - chronos and Martin's new project.
Why don't we both fool around with them for a bit and get a sense of
what it will take to add features etc? Then we can
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
Is After really necessary as an option? I've never come across a
service that uses After without a Requires or a Wants but I've
never taken the time to look.
Hmm, I found After more common that Wants, but maybe I only look
.
And indeed he would be right, in the sense that we cannot determine it. If you
measure it many times even though each measurement affect the trajectory you'll
learn that some positions are more likely than others and you may even catch
it sometimes :)
The problem is that it is really hard
/5/20 11:21 PM, tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Currentlu my newly created system is installed on a harrdisk, which
> sit in a docking station connect via USB to my PC.
>
> The system is intended to be complete in the sense, that can
> boot bu itsself withou
tu...@posteo.de wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Currentlu my newly created system is installed on a harrdisk, which
> sit in a docking station connect via USB to my PC.
>
> The system is intended to be complete in the sense, that can
> boot bu itsself without accessing any other sto
the network at /mnt/portage/local.
My boxes have different stuff in their overlays, and one uses no
overlay packages at all. Sharing overlays doesn't make much sense for
my set-up.
It makes sense for me because everything is in one place, making
maintenance and backups simpler. Even
On Tuesday 18 October 2005 17:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you cat /etc/gentoo-release it give back Gentoo Base System
version 1.4.16.
Though being LSB compliant may not make sense for Gentoo as a whole,
there is sense in having an ability to remotely identify the system
as a
Gentoo
append --prefix=/usr/local/test to the
call to econf. All of this assumes usage of autoconf, of course.
Another common approach is to set DESTDIR to ${D}/usr/local/test for
make install.
See
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2chap=1
Probably a better a reference
kernel: [17700.131687] sr 16:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK
driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE
kernel: [17700.131698] sr 16:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Illegal Request
[current]
kernel: [17700.131707] sr 16:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Read of scrambled sector
without authentication
Note the scrambeld
it and has common sense.
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when read in conjunction
with the wiki page (link is in the news statement).
Unless you have a very complex setup with multiple NICs (and especially
if they are USB based) you will find that the docs probably cover your
case completely (just add common sense and a bit of understanding about
what
USE FLAGS. His point is about
algorithms. Only that. Gentoo does not change algorithms in the (widely
spread) softwares supported by the distribution. And I'm not going to
talk about specialized hardware for cryptography that almost nobody here
will ever use.
I never talked about a sense
Does anyone else get entries like this in their apache2 access_log:
127.0.0.1 - - [26/Sep/2007:03:10:08 -0700] GET / 400 470
I get a whole slew of them every day. They always show up in batches
and each entry in a batch is logged at almost the same second.
That make sense, since 400
I need feedback on this cunning plan.
I have five (virtual machine) systems which are mostly identical.
Originally I customized each one with a different set of use flags.
Each one has a different set of applications with a common core. I
started updating them last night and woke up
On 9/17/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 17 September 2006 13:43, Alexander Skwar wrote:
· Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Sunday 17 September 2006 09:21, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 07:50:28 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
It makes very little sense to ditch the unix
without fear of a hardware failure.
Not with todays clusters and cheap hardware. As you pointed out
expertise (and common sense) are the quintessential qualities for staff
and managers.
However, you pay a small fortune for all of this.
Not today, that was then those absorbant prices. Sequ
think the ROOT environment variable when emerging is what
you want. I think you can just append --prefix=/usr/local/test to
the call to econf. All of this assumes usage of autoconf, of
course. Another common approach is to set DESTDIR to
${D}/usr/local/test for make install.
Probably
and *disable* it using
package.use where you do *not* want it.
Personally, I have better things to do than examine every new or changed
package that shows up after avuND world and edit package.us for every single
flag in that huge list.
If a user has gtk+ installed, the common case
is sincere about it and has common sense.
--- Carveth Read, “Logic”
come up with is Use common sense and build stuff that can be
used and maintained which is wonderfully descriptive but really sucks
as a definition.
[1] For lack of a better term, let's just call systemd here a system
controller. What is this ONE thing a system controller should do and do
it well
not
know my elder brother/acquaintance from the street nearby who can
easily hit you down!
If you don't think Greg's words have any weight in a Linux-related
technical discussion, then I'm afraid we will need to agree to
disagree on any technical subject.
You know, common sense should
not trying to post details on a specific USE flag,
just picking a common one that makes the point of how it can be handled.
>> Basically, make.conf is the rule for USE flags. Package.use is for
>> exceptions to that rule.
> Or, if the USE flag is documented in /usr/portage/p
like. It makes it harder to figure out how
passwords are generated and tracked. Each tool has its own methods.
It's sort of like the password strength sites. I didn't rely on one
site. I used several plus some common sense as well. If all sites
think a password will take thousands of years or more to
on libraries provided by CUPS even if you
don't want to print?
That's not the point: the point is that you want to force *another*
configuration that the devs have to test and maintain and QA, and you
don't seem to care that your use-case is not very common.
In other words: if the devs keep
/gsettings-desktop-schemas
-I../../ -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"common-cc-panel\" -DPANEL_ID=\"common\"
-pthread -I/usr/include/gnome-desktop-3.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-3.0
-I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/cairo
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/harfbuzz
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I
I/usr/include/gio-unix-2.0/ -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
> -I/usr/lib64/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/gsettings-desktop-schemas
> -I../../ -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"common-cc-panel\" -DPANEL_ID=\"common\"
> -pthread -I/usr/include/gnome-desktop-3.0 -I/usr/include/gtk-3.0
> -I/u
/arphicfonts/ Only when I created a link
in: /usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript/
ln -s /usr/share/fonts/arphicfonts/gbsn00lp.ttf gbsn00lp.ttf
to this font it converted from pdf2ps
Yes, might happen. But it is common sense that you should embed all
needed fonts into the PDF anyway. For older
:
[...]
Where these paths are coming from?
Compiled into the binary?
Not a good solution but, it would be better if we input the path via a config
file.
Yes, might happen. But it is common sense that you should embed all
needed fonts into the PDF anyway. For older versions of PDFs there was
an exception
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