I'm not terribly confused by the omission of a direct reference to 13R in that section. As the text reads "...for buildings that are not sprinklered throughout in accordance with NFPA 13."
Wouldn't you agree that 13R is other than NFPA 13?
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It appears there's a conflict in understanding, as section 10.6.1.1.6 outlines a requirement for a flow rate of 1,250 gallons per minute (gpm) for buildings lacking sprinkler coverage, in line with NFPA 13 standards. Yet, 10.6.1.1.6 omits any mention of NFPA 13R, leading to confusion about the necessity of meeting the 1,250 gpm requirement in scenarios where NFPA 13 standards might not be mandated by the building code but NFPA 13R. Furthermore, NFPA 14 does not discuss provisions for buildings with partial sprinkler protection according to NFPA 13R.
On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 9:07 AM John Denhardt <jdenha...@firesprinkler.org> wrote:
Correct - for standpipe calculations purposes, buildings protected with NFPA 13R systems do not meet the requirements to limit the flow to 1,250 GPM
10.6.1.1.6 in NFPA 14 - 2024
John August Denhardt, P.E.Vice-President Engineering and Technical ServicesAmerican Fire Sprinkler Association301-343-1457
On Apr 3, 2024, at 09:49, Fpdcdesign <fpdcdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
13R buildings are not considered to be fully sprinklered.
Why would you do 1250 if it’s a fully sprinklered building?
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On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 08:43 <rimrock.design.servi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Asking this on behalf of Rowe Sprinkler Systems (Temporally Un-Retired)
We have a 4-story modular apartment building sprinklered in accordance with NFPA 13R with allowed exceptions, with 4 standpipes. The standpipes are connected at the 1st floor level. One each at the ends of the L shaped building and two at the approximate mid-point on either side of a 2-hour separation wall with self-closing, rated doors in the corridor.
The question is for purposes of calculating the standpipe can these be treated as two separate buildings? For example, 250 gpm at the far end of the 4th floor, 250 gpm at the far end of the 3rd floor and 250 gpm at the at the connecting point of the middle standpipe, for a total of 750 gpm.
Or do we have to calculate the additional standpipes up to 1250 gpm. Available water is the issue.
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