Keith et al, I stand by what I said about safety and pollution. I don't want to see or hear of anyone hurting themselves, that was my raison d'etre behind the message. If it makes one person look at the MSDS and be aware of the dangers presented by e.g. methanol, then such debate has a very high value indeed. Yes, some "backyard" solution to the sparking boxes may well be found, lets hope so.
Just like to take a few of your points here Keith: >You're talking about a commercial operation here. So there's no commercial benefit to making your own then? >We've just been discussing the toxicity of methanol, So its resolved and now a non-issue is it? >we've just established that the environmental implications of waste water are >essentially a >non-issue, This is an issue and a big one. Don't avoid it. >we've just agreed that glycerine "disposal" is also a >non-issue because it's too useful to dispose of. Only useful when its pure. So how to clean it up? Very energy intensive. The thought of putting hydrochloric acid to it and feed it to cattle was, on a scale of creativity from 1-10 about 9. Burning it was around 1-2. I would also like to reply to the last post on this topic from Christian who wrote: >There«s not much I can say on VOC«s and all the rest of the environmental >concerns, but most R&D must leave these issues aside to be able to get >somewhere. In Europe, we have had a piece of legislation from an EC directive (96/61/EC)on Integrated Pollution Prevention and Control. The directive clearly states that research and development of products and processes can be carried out in installations and/or parts of installations and such work is not covered by the directive. The UK Governement has interpreted this into UK legislation to mean just a fume cupboard meeting a British standard for fume cupboards. Not complying with this legislation is unlawful and they will prosecute. The only work excluded from the legislation is "the crown", one of the few pieces of UK legislation to allow "crown immunity". For those in countries without a monarch, this means the Queen can make as much biodiesel as she wants in the backyard of Buckingham Palace in London, but if I try, I get sent to prison. This action stifles, in effect, all research and development, whether in academic or industrial institutions. It would mean that work to minimise risks and hazards associated with renewable products or process development. Are there any list members out there in Europe or elsewhere who have this same problem in their own countries? Best regards Mad Dave -- ------------ Recycling - not a chore more a way of life Dave Preskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] The BioComposites Centre University of Wales, Bangor Deiniol Road Bangor Gwynedd LL57 2UW ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Universal Inkjet Refill Kit $29.95 Refill any ink cartridge for less! Includes black and color ink. http://us.click.yahoo.com/QzLWzD/MkNDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
