Hi Lowell

>A lot of lit on this subject during 1980s. Search on "NTIS" which is U.S.
>gov repository for gov funded research. The critters you want info on are
>called "Microalgae" not algae and they produce Lipids" which you and I call
>"oil". If you want info about getting the oil out of the microalgae search
>on the net for "Lipid Extraction". Most of NTIS research on this is under
>program called "Aquatic Species Program". Try to get 1987 and 1985 reports.
>Each report cost me at least $30 to $60. Solar Energy Institute in Golden
>CO. published a neat small report in 1985 called Fuel options from
>Microalgae dated July 1984. If you get into this you will need to buy quite
>a few chemicals, some common like Epsom Salt, baking soda and some pretty
>exotic. If you want to look at "houses" for your critters search on the net
>for "photobioreactor" . Tried this once and failed. Also wife and daughters
>saw no humor in growing "pond scum" in the house. May try this one day when
>I get some space out of the house but am more interested in finding cheap
>sources of oil seeds. Hope this helps. Good luck.

You're not the first to reach that conclusion. Previously a list 
member set up ponds and so on and was going ahead full-steam but we 
never heard any more about it. Another list member researched the 
subject, he had good technical resources, and concluded that it's a 
waste of time right now, it just isn't there yet, at least not at a 
doable small-scale level.

Marc Carduso of Ecogenics has posted several upbeat messages on the 
subject in the last few weeks. He's talked of "Algae production for 
food fuel and fertiliser", "algaeculture technology for oil 
production and algae based " Living fuel cell" technology", and 
referred list members to his website for further information. 
www.dabney.com/ecogenics/

I didn't find much information there, maybe I should have looked 
harder. I saw some photographs that looked to me like water hyacinth 
and duckweed, nice for greywater/blackwater treatment systems. I 
guess there's something I'm missing. I'm not being sceptical, just 
need more info I think. What's not clear to me is whether Marc has 
actually succeeded in producing lipids from algae in usable form and 
quantity. When last we heard Marc hadn't made any biodiesel yet but 
would be doing so soon. I don't know if Marc has made yet biodiesel 
from algae lipids. Can you tell us a bit more Marc?

Meanwhile, personally I take your view Lowell, cheap sources of oil 
seeds are more interesting. There's huge and very largely unexplored 
potential in oil-bearing plants, as well as in productive and 
efficient ways of producing them. For instance, a quick search of 
James Duke's Handbook of Energy Crops finds 62 legumes, both plants 
and trees, either of which can be fitted to the cropping and growing 
patterns on integrated sutainable farms in a variety of ways, perhaps 
as cover crops, interplanted or undersown, for forage or green 
manure, earning their keep independently of their oil potential, 
which would come as a bonus produced without the dedicated use of of 
any land, or time and labour. Trees can be even more interesting. 
That's just some of the legumes.

http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/dukeindex.html
Handbook of Energy Crops Index

Best

Keith


>Lowell
>
>>From: "balaji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>>To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>>Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
>>Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 19:48:23 +0530
>>
>>Hi all,
>>So am I.
>>Balaji,
>>Chennai, TN, India
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
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>>To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 1:26 AM
>>Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: oil from algae...
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>>
>> > I am interested as well.
>> >
>> > Met vriendelijke groet,
>> > Pieter Koole
>> > Netherlands.
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>> > > I asked a while ago if anyone had any info on Oil from algae.
>> > >
>> > > What I would like to do is an experiment.
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone have any info on how exactly to extract the oil from
>>algae?
>> > Could I do it in a home lab?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > > Bill



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