Tim, I couldn't agree more on the need to drive more sanely, with a good portion of that being to conserve. If you come to Indiana, you'll recognize me as the other guy not exceeding the speed limit. I haven't had the luck that you have with staying in the right lane, but I figure that when folks get irritated with me being so slow, it's their problem not mine.
I wasn't aware of air travel being so fuel costly. I guess I always thought that since so many people were moving at once, it made up for the large amounts of fuel used to move them. Part of what I enjoy in life is to visit other parts of the world and try to get a look at how others live their lives. To give up air travel completely would mean giving up one of the few things I truly enjoy, as well as something that changes the way that I view the world, hopefully for the better. Personally, I think that if more Americans took advantage of the opportunity to see that we aren't the only culture on the planet, the world would be a much better place. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Lyle, > > What I am saying is that it is socially irresponsible to promote > biofuels without at least an equal effort to promote a SIGNIFICANT > reduction in consumption on the order of 1/5th the current amount, > BY ALL OF US. > > For example, Jet Air Travel. I am amazed at the number of so- called > environmentalists that refuse to give up this particular bad habit. > Here we have an industry subsidized with over 18 times the amount > allowed for super efficient train travel. > > Average BTU consumed Per Passenger mile by mode of travel: > > SUV: 4,591 > Air: 4,123 > Bus: 3,729 > Car: 3,672 > Train: 2,138 > > Source: Bureau of Transportation Statistics > http://199.79.179.77/publications/nts/index.html > > Another example, folks insist on racing from red light to red light > as fast as possible, and when on highways and freeways routinely > speed 20 to 30 mph above posted speed limits. The cops have given up > trying to enforce speed limits (a whole other rant) so the race is > on. Now everyone knows the faster one goes the more fuel is > consumed, yet bring up the idea of restoring the 55 MPH speed limit, > and enforcing existing speed limits, and watch the so-called > environmentalists scurry for cover like roaches when the lights come > on. > > This one simple measure could reduce consumption, emmissions & > reliance on imported oil 20% to 50%! Visit the Drive 55 Conservation > website to read several reports and articles in support of this > claim: http://drive55.org/pn/index.php > > > So, all that said, and seeing as you "fundamentally agree" with > my "conservation message" - what commitments are you prepared to > make to reduce your personal consumption of energy? > > I refuse to fly in jet airplanes now. I plan better and stick to > surface transportation. > > When I drive my 78 300D, I obey speed limits, rarely exceeding 55 > MPH. By staying in the right lane I have found this very easy as > that is the maximum for trucks here in California. Guess what, > McDonalds BRAGS about sticking to 55 MPH with stickers on their > trucks! > > I have replaced every light bulb in my home with 13 watt > flourescents and installed dual pane windows among the ongoing > efforts. > > I ride my bike whenever possible for most trips to the store, bank, > and other errands. I even take it on the light rail when I go > downtown. > > When I shop I pay close attention to the source of the products I > buy, and always choose locally produced goods if possible. > > I share this message with everyone I meet, along with the > information I have about cellulosic ethanol, biodiesel, and other > types of biofuel as a PART of the equation. > > I will say this very plainly again now: It is socially irresponsible > to promote biofuels without AT LEAST an equal effort made to promote > conservation. The offense is compounded when someone claiming > concern for the environment refuses to acknowledge this in their own > life, and joins in the funding of petroleum warlords. > > Peace, > > Tim > > > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Lyle Estill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tim, > > > > I fundamentally agree with your conservation message, and your > mantra > > of social responsibility and sustainability, > > but I think questioning feedstock capacities at this point is a > straw > > argument. > > > > Saying we can't grow enough to meet our fuel needs is a little > like > > saying we shouldn't make electricity from wind--after all, the > wind > > doesn't always blow. > > > > Lyle Estill > > V.P., Stuff > > Piedmont Biofuels > > www.biofuels.coop Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/