Mike Pelly wrote:

>Why does a gallon of liquid propane need to be pressurized at 172 PSI to
>stay contained in liquid form and gasoline stays liquid at room temperature?
>  
>

    Those are its physical properties.  Asking this question with 
respect to internal combustion is a bit like asking why ice floats.  
It's a matter of density at pressure and temperature.

>I use the example of propane to illustrate how a vapor mixes so completely
>with air (unlike a sprayed liquid) There are many reasons why propane and
>gasoline are different including their densities and length of carbon
>chains.
>

    Despite propane being a vapor at atmospheric pressure and ambient 
temperatures, there is still a finite amount of energy available in a 
given volume of liquid propane.  It has a LOWER energy density than 
gasoline, hence, even though it's a vapor and mixes completely with air, 
propane delivers less energy per liter than gasoline.  In fact, because 
gaseous fuels in general actually displace air in externally-mixed fuel 
management systems, propane normally delivers about 10% LESS power than 
gasoline.

    I'm writing this from many years of actual experience in burning 
propane as an automobile fuel.  I've built engines for propane, too, and 
by virtue of squeezing the intake charge harder (higher compression 
pressure) I managed to equalize fuel economy between gasoline and 
propane in my old Pontiac sedan.  The same technique can be used in ANY 
high octane fuel, though.  Methane, ethanol, methanol also benefit from 
increased compression pressure.  It has nothing to do with vaporized 
fuel, and the improvements are incremental, at best.

    We've been around this tree before.  You vanish for awhile, then 
come back with the same claims for astonishing fuel efficiency based on 
vaporized gasoline, but you seem to lack understanding of how high 
pressure, computer-feedback fuel injection works.  Internal combustion 
is a complex, dynamic process for certain, but at the end of all the 
analysis, there is very little energy remaining in the exhaust gases of 
a modern engine.

robert luis rabello
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