>Hey Keith, >I'm sorry, but I can't buy into this. You certainly can't buy into algae.
>Even on a small scale algae >will out produce anything out there. Sigh... Let's try it again. I'll SHOUT this time. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BIODIESEL FROM ALGAE. FULL STOP. You're living in a fantasy. >Even if it's harder to do at the beginning; it can actually solve >this problem. I can't see any good >reason to go for another crop that really doesn't have a chance to do >it. >I mean with palm oil, you'd need close to 2 million acres just to fill >the order you had a few weeks >ago, and that's only a portion of a portion of a portion of what we >need. >Right now, (if I can get the permits, which I might have to move to >another county, we'll see.) My scale >will be just under the small scale limits leading into commercial >production. >Of course this will be dependent on gaining the proficiency of growing >algae. When I get the experience under my belt, I'm hoping for a >strand that will produce 40% oil. It will >easily outstrip any crop out there. And they're not extremely >expensive $30-70 for the culture. >The difficulty is really in getting to optimum growth rate. >The rest of the business is the technicals of making the oil. > >So please don't try to kill algae; I have always supported the production of biofuels from algae, for more than 10 years, often helping people who were attempting to produce it on a DIY scale. None of them ever got anywhere. So don't accuse me of trying to "kill" it, you're talking through your hat. >it is probably one of the only >crops that will be able to fill the demand we >need. Let's try giving you another link that you'll ignore: How much fuel can we grow? How much land will it take? http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html#howmuch >I think it's a lot easier to grow when you understand the >properties of it. >The opportunity that it presents makes it less a dream and a little >closer to reality of us being >independent. Yes, Christopher, if you say so, Christopher. LOL! > I appreciate the links, No you don't, you didn't even look at them properly, if at all. You prefer your fantasy world. Not only that, you're taking no notice of the rest of the current discussions on the list. And not only that, you're failing to use the list resources, which you were instructed to do when you joined. In fact you're right out of line. Beware. Keith Addison Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner >was just looking for anyone out there that >have found some >things along the way. And I'm not discounting the manual at all; >just always learning. > > >On Mar 31, 2011, at 5:30 PM, Keith Addison wrote: > >> Hello Christopher >> >>> Does anyone have any tips about the production of b100 using ethanol >>> from wvo and/or algae? >> >> I already told you this: >> > > "There's no such thing as biodiesel from algae apart from a few lab >> samples. When it does eventually emerge it will almost certainly be >> on the industrial scale, most likely using patented bio-engineered >> strains of algae. Not for backyarders." >> >>> I believe ethanol will be the best bet for me b/c of cost and danger/ >>> regulations, even though it's >>> harder to work with. >> >> http://journeytoforever.org/ethanol_link.html#ethylester >> Ethyl esters -- making ethanol biodiesel >> >> This is the first thing it says: >> >> "1. Get plenty of experience making biodiesel with methanol before >> you try it with ethanol." >> >> You're starting in the wrong place. Start here: >> >> "Where do I start?" >> <http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start> >> >> Follow the instructions, step by step. Forget anything else you've >> read. Study everything on that page and the next page and at the >> links in the text. It tells you everything you need to know. >> >> It's not just us who say so, it's largely the result of a >> collaborative effort over 10 years involving thousands of people >> worldwide, it's what works. > > >> Keith Addison >> >> >>> All the tips will be much much appreciated, >>> especially for the times I don't >>> have pitfalls! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 >> messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
