a  major selling point can focus on out of district response; often
FDs know their own area well, but when they go to support other
companies they often don't know a whole lot about the place they're
responding to.

richard

On 2/3/20 6:59 PM, Mike N wrote:
> Mike,
>      It is a rather unique set of circumstances that make this project a
> good fit:
>    - The county does not map most driveways
>    - The degree of rural-ness, hills, and trees
>    - Most trees are deciduous, making the off-leaf imagery good for
> locating hidden driveways.
>    - The region is a mix of economics - some nice newer houses, many
> older houses / trailers.   The FD must manage their budget carefully:
> they declined the $15K app from the county that probably just shows GIS
> data with latest roads and address numbers.  It wouldn't necessarily
> locate driveway entrances since the data doesn't have those.  Even if it
> showed off-leaf imagery, a co-pilot wouldn't have time to study out a
> driveway on the way to a call.
> 
>    If the official data source did have driveways and a navigation app,
> I'll admit it would be hard to try OSM.  Or even the fire district I
> live in with much shorter driveways, {CommercialMapper} would find
> nearly every address almost exactly.
> 
>   The fire chief is eager to present the project to the next meeting of
> fire chiefs in the area.   I'll be interested to hear the comments from
> the other districts.
> 
>   Mike
> 
> 
> On 2/3/2020 9:57 AM, Mike Thompson wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> That is a very compelling story.  Thanks to you and the other OSM
>> folks involved for making it happen and to you for writing the diary
>> entry.  I have often thought that OSM would be a great resource
>> emergency responders because in some areas it contains data that no
>> one else has, but generally the reaction that I have gotten when I
>> have suggested this to such officials was "we have our own data", "we
>> have already invested in xyz system" (sunk cost fallacy), or "how can
>> we trust OSM?".  The exception was a search and rescue group that used
>> OSM to help locate missing people in the back country because OSM
>> contains trails that no other source has.
>>
>> Is this being publicised outside of the OSM community?  There are
>> probably associations for fire fighters and other emergency response
>> professionals and perhaps someone from the FD involved could speak
>> about this project at one of their conferences to get agencies in
>> other parts of the country (or world) interested.
>>
>> Mike
>>
> 
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