On Thu, Sep 11, 2008, yannick wrote:
> This has been fixed. Try the new packages from today.

 Will do.  Or I guess I should jhbuild my own to make sure I don't lag
 WRT fixed bugs.

> >  - popup on startup about network settings which need to be configured
> >    manually; looks like it was an issue with either ufw or some vm stuff
> >    I have installed, clearing iptables rules fixed it
> Ekiga is not designed to bypass security unlike Skype... It should work
> without any configuration most of the time.

 I think ekiga should report what the actual issue; all I got was an
 error about network problems.  The link to the wiki is a good idea.

 Concerning ufw, ekiga might need to ship an ufw config to open certain
 ports.  Concerning vm stuff, I reported later that what happened is
 that Ekiga actually tried REGISTERing from two IP addresses
 concurrently, I don't see how sending two REGISTERs can ever be a good
 idea.

> If Ubuntu is kind enough to provide a proxy for VoIP, it could work all
> the times... The same apply to Empathy using protocols like SIP.

 What do you mean by Ubuntu and a proxy?  You mean a proxy on some
 public servers in *.ubuntu.com?  Not sure how it would help traversing
 firewalls and routers.

> >  - doesn't show v4l device name in setup wizard when listing audio and
> >    video input devices
> The V4L API is deprecated since *years* in the kernel. V4L2 is the
> standard for Linux.
> 
> Still, some driver, like yours (gspca) did not upgraded to the new API.
> This is mostly a packaging issue; installing the package
> "libpt-2.3-plugins-v4l" provide V4L support.

 When I wrote "v4l" above, I was really thinking v4l2 as I didn't expect
 that a driver which was just merged in the mainline would still use
 v4l...  but indeed I only installed libpt-2.3-plugins-v4l2 from ekiga's
 snapshots.  Bizarrely, I did get video in ekiga from the webcam.

> But adding this support will pop up 2 choices for most webcams users:
> V4L and V4L2, which doesn't mean anything for the average user...

 I see.

> Please report a bug against your driver which do not support the
> standard for Linux.

 Hmm it strikes that this should be already known since the driver was
 just merged to mainline.

> >  - locking assertion failures on console in libxcb  :-/
> Please try the latest package, or report the bug upstream.

 Well it was the latest this morning!  Sure, I'll report the bug.

> >  - icon is almost exactly the same as empathy in notification area
> Well, we have those icons since something like early 2007 in our SVN...
> They are easy to understand and based on traffic light. There is no copy
> here.

 It might been in your SVN for so long, it's not what's used in the
 current version of the Ubuntu ekiga packages, and I could until now
 distinguish ekiga from gossip / empathy.   :-/

> >  - "Chat" menu to "Quit" is weird, probably not GNOME HIG compliant
> It is compliant, see:
> http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/menus-standard.html.en#the-file-menu
> especially:
> "If your application does not operate on documents, name this item for
> the type of object it displays. For example, many games should have a
> Game instead of a File menu. However, place the Quit menu item last on
> this menu nonetheless."

 The Game example makes sense to me, but I still feel disturbed by Chat
 > Quit, especially since I don't use ekiga for "chat" but really for
 "calls" or "conferences", but I understand why you settled for Chat and
 put Quit in there.  Still feels kind of weird to me.   :-/

> >  - "Account" menu in Accounts window doesn't look like a menu (no
> >    underscore); not easy to see where to add an account
> This has been fixed, please test last package.

 (it was the last one when I tried ;-)

 But I'll give it another shot.

> >  - When actually using SIP: "Cannot copy from empty list to master RTP
> >    session list" error
> I reported it here, and it is fixed:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545366
> Please try the new packages...

 Same remark...

-- 
Loïc Minier

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