Yes, and I believe, when we will have worked out Gradle stuff (at least: finishing it, adding plugins, correctly documenting the whole) we should gather to work on this and slowly replace/improve the old good Minilang

Could be the R17 main task?

Jacques


Le 12/08/2016 à 12:34, gil portenseigne a écrit :

+1

Indeed, and moreover in the wiki page you link, there is autocompletion 
configuration in IDE Integration part.

Thanks

Gil


Le 12/08/2016 à 12:13, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
+1

I think Jacopo has more to say about that :)

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Groovy+DSL+for+OFBiz+business+logic

Jacques


Le 09/08/2016 à 19:11, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit :
I would like to add to what Scott already mentioned that minilang is not
only difficult to debug but also overly verbose.

However, minilang exists and continues to be used I think because of the
ctrl-space auto complete combined with XSD definitions for the statements.
This makes it a DSL (not too pretty) and this is something that we did not
provide a reasonable alternative for. Groovy makes a good candidate for an
alternative DSL but we don't have something yet which is comprehensively
documented with an easy auto-complete feature. This is very important for
many developers I think. So we need to think of a good alternative

On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Scott Gray <scott.g...@hotwaxsystems.com>
wrote:

I'm certainly no fan of minilang. I prefer something I can step through
with a debugger.

Regards
Scott

On 9/08/2016 20:55, "Paul Piper" <p...@ilscipio.com> wrote:

Skip,

I fear that you may be right with regards to minilang and the community,
though luckily with your own projects you can set your own standards. I
learned the hard way that minilang leads to more cluttered code and
though
there are some benefits (the automapping of service maps or entity-auto
for
creating crud services), I would strongly recommend anyone to rather
invest
the time into proper java or groovy code.

As for the use of widgets over ftl, perhaps it is worth noting that we
streamlined both for Scipio ERP. They share the same underlying set of
macros and will create the hence create the same HTML & classes as are
defined by your theme. So if people prefer to use widgets, they can. We
relied on this, when cleaning up & converting usable screens alot, as not
always it would make sense to transfer them to ftl.

That being said, our goal is to further replace widgets by ftl logic as
we
move along. For both minilang and widgets the reason on our end is that
neither technology is used anywhere outside of the ofbiz project and thus
adds to the overall learning-curve for newcomers. We much rather rely on
trusted alternatives that are easier to pick up for our project ;)

Cheers,
Paul



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