Holmlid is currently suffering from the fusion dilution. He wants the
hydrogen atoms to be very close together "Ultra dense" because it fits in
with the theory that atoms that are close together will fuse.

Just like the fusion delusion of P&F, the LENR mechanism has nothing to do
with ordinary fusion. Holmlid is chasing a wild goose.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Jones, your description below about metallic hydrogen stimulates me to
> wonder about atoms, molecules, particles, and condensed matter.  Obviously
> a single atom of H is not metallic hydrogen.  A single molecule of hydrogen
> is more "dense" than the H/D(1) species of Rydberg matter.  I don't think
> anyone would categorize an ordinary H2 molecule as metallic or condensed
> matter. The X(1) species of Rydberg matter is shown to exist in particular
> for H/D and the alkali metals having commonly 7 or more atoms.  Are these
> Rydberg clusters better described as large molecules?  A small particle of
> metal? Generalized condensed matter?  How do you ascribe mass density to
> something only one atomic layer thick?  It is interesting to consider.
>
> The Rydberg matter "snowflakes" called X(1), where X is usually an alkali
> metal, are called Rydberg because the electron orbitals are highly excited
> Rydberg states in high order flattened (nearly planar) orbitals.  The
> nuclear separation of H(1) is bigger than that for the H2 molecule.
> Existence for X(1) Rydberg matter particles (clusters, molecules) is well
> reproduced, modeled, measured, and is utilized by many based on the well
> described characteristics of the snowflakes obtained, in a large part, from
> rotational spectroscopy.
>
> The existence of Holmlid's ultra-dense form is not reproduced, and what
> form it might take is completely speculative.  The evidence for it appears
> to be solely from the accelerated species found in supposed Coulomb
> Explosion (CE).  Why is this species not be examined by conventional
> rotational spectroscopy, as has been used to verify the existence of the
> X(1) Rydberg matter?  I would think that the comprising atoms could NOT be
> in a DDL state, because if they were, they would not be susceptible to
> photonic ionization (DDL states are supposed to have too little angular
> momentum to form a photon), which Holmlid claims causes CE and is his basis
> for the existence of the D(-1) / D(0) state of matter in the first place.
> Since the D(-1)=D(0) matter is supposedly susceptible to photo-ionization
> and CE, it seems like it should also be detectable in a rotational spectrum.
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> Fran - The only way Holmlid’s claims make sense is that the dense
>> hydrogen he describes is a more stable phase of hydrogen than metallic
>> hydrogen. This means it is a phase or isomer which does not require extreme
>> containment.
>>
>>
>>
>> For instance, we know that alloys with alkali metals will lower the
>> pressure requirements for metallic hydrogen by 400%. In the case of the
>> Holmlid phase, which I still call DDL until it is shown to be different,
>> the species could be stable without any pressure or with slight containment.
>>
>

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