fusion dilution should read fusion delusion

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Holmlid is currently suffering from the fusion dilution. He wants the
> hydrogen atoms to be very close together "Ultra dense" because it fits in
> with the theory that atoms that are close together will fuse.
>
> Just like the fusion delusion of P&F, the LENR mechanism has nothing to do
> with ordinary fusion. Holmlid is chasing a wild goose.
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Jones, your description below about metallic hydrogen stimulates me to
>> wonder about atoms, molecules, particles, and condensed matter.  Obviously
>> a single atom of H is not metallic hydrogen.  A single molecule of hydrogen
>> is more "dense" than the H/D(1) species of Rydberg matter.  I don't think
>> anyone would categorize an ordinary H2 molecule as metallic or condensed
>> matter. The X(1) species of Rydberg matter is shown to exist in particular
>> for H/D and the alkali metals having commonly 7 or more atoms.  Are these
>> Rydberg clusters better described as large molecules?  A small particle of
>> metal? Generalized condensed matter?  How do you ascribe mass density to
>> something only one atomic layer thick?  It is interesting to consider.
>>
>> The Rydberg matter "snowflakes" called X(1), where X is usually an alkali
>> metal, are called Rydberg because the electron orbitals are highly excited
>> Rydberg states in high order flattened (nearly planar) orbitals.  The
>> nuclear separation of H(1) is bigger than that for the H2 molecule.
>> Existence for X(1) Rydberg matter particles (clusters, molecules) is well
>> reproduced, modeled, measured, and is utilized by many based on the well
>> described characteristics of the snowflakes obtained, in a large part, from
>> rotational spectroscopy.
>>
>> The existence of Holmlid's ultra-dense form is not reproduced, and what
>> form it might take is completely speculative.  The evidence for it appears
>> to be solely from the accelerated species found in supposed Coulomb
>> Explosion (CE).  Why is this species not be examined by conventional
>> rotational spectroscopy, as has been used to verify the existence of the
>> X(1) Rydberg matter?  I would think that the comprising atoms could NOT be
>> in a DDL state, because if they were, they would not be susceptible to
>> photonic ionization (DDL states are supposed to have too little angular
>> momentum to form a photon), which Holmlid claims causes CE and is his basis
>> for the existence of the D(-1) / D(0) state of matter in the first place.
>> Since the D(-1)=D(0) matter is supposedly susceptible to photo-ionization
>> and CE, it seems like it should also be detectable in a rotational spectrum.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Fran - The only way Holmlid’s claims make sense is that the dense
>>> hydrogen he describes is a more stable phase of hydrogen than metallic
>>> hydrogen. This means it is a phase or isomer which does not require extreme
>>> containment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For instance, we know that alloys with alkali metals will lower the
>>> pressure requirements for metallic hydrogen by 400%. In the case of the
>>> Holmlid phase, which I still call DDL until it is shown to be different,
>>> the species could be stable without any pressure or with slight containment.
>>>
>>
>

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