Jed, In medieval times there were rules decided by people in a certain trade if they would allow any new person to establish business in that trade. They were supposed to be able to see the need for more resources. Guess what? They made competition non-existent. Today the licensing has ambition to protect the consumer. In reality it is just no protection but plenty of job opportunity and income to government. (Just FYI 1790 is not medieval time to me. In addition the building codes is not what I talked about.) You say 'for good reasons' which reasons are those good one. That rules has not changed and that we have laws that cannot be enforced as they should have been eliminated 50 years ago is hardly a good reason. It is rather a sign for inefficient government and inability to adopt to modern times. Examples can be laws about adultery.
You know Jed, who really make the rules is of less importance. The politics, involved in making the rules, are so outrageously free from common sense that trying to justify regulations with such statements is like shooting oneself in the foot. ( I have my problem with the language but tautology?) You have never been involved in the setting of industry standards I can hear. Reality is that it is filled with lobbying and people protecting there own ways of doing things by forcing legislation to force other to go the same (often expensive and meaningless). As I said the same impact as medieval trust laws. So bringing private industry to the table is just increasing the stupidity and eliminating competition. The last paragraph shows a very low opinion of your peers and the population in general. No, things does not become chaos because government is not involved. There are not that many areas where we can see the difference between one and the other. In some areas there are parallels but than, when not government organized it is criminal and that skews the picture. Examples are prostitution, weed sales etc. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 Whatever you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon, must inevitably come to pass. (PJM) On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> wrote: > > >> See the licensing system for different trades, which is close to medieval >> rules for trade. >> > > Not just close; they are the same in many instances, for good reason. > People in medieval times were not fools. In another example, many building > codes in Pennsylvania are the same today as they were in 1790. > > > I understand that there need to be requirements for certain services. The >> question is who is capable of judging - I for sure know government is >> totally incapable. >> > > All of these standards are set by industry, not by government. The > government enforces standards which are set by organizations such as the > ASME. Many laws simply reference ASME publications saying that products > "will meet these standards." So this statement makes no sense. It is a > tautology: > > Standards set by industry are set by industry. > > Naturally, government experts at places like NIST contribute to the > standards, but no standard is ever implemented without consultation and > expert input from industry. > > Without standards industry would be in chaos, unable to accomplish > anything. The most important U.S. person of the industrial standards > movement in the 20th century was Secretary of Commerce and later President > Herbert Hoover. He was not a left wing figure, opposed to capitalism or > industry. > > - Jed > >
