*Cesium can be dangerous*

*See *

*http://www.espimetals.com/index.php/msds/492-cesium-chromate*

*for hazards data*


On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  Creating cesium vapor is easier said than done.
>
> This way may be the least expensive way to do it.
>
> http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA524737
>
> From this reference on page 60
>
>
>
> Cesium Source Materials
>
>
>
>    1. Titanium:Cesium Chromate Dispenser
>
>
>
> The first generation UM dispenser cathodes contained a bi-metallic
> compound made of titanium powder and cesium chromate (Ti:CrCs2O4) mixed at
> a 5:1 ratio and hand pressed into small pellets. At a temperature of 425°C
> the chromate reacts with titanium leaving free cesium in the dispenser
> cavity.
>
>
>
> This may fit in with your design since chromium and titanium are
> non-reactive in what you are doing.
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
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> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>> Axil, thanks mucho.  You've given me a lot to chew on.  This will take me
>> a while to intergrate all your design guidelines.  These are the kinds of
>> design directions that I would like to hear more of.
>>
>> Already, I've figured out a way to integrate your "double wall" design.
>> This was something that did not cross my mind.  Your input bringing this to
>> my attention is very helpful.  I've been struggling a little bit on how to
>> improve convection and flow inside the reactor and frankly, your novel
>> double wall design did not enter my mind.  Thanks
>>
>> Now, I need to figure out a way to integrate an adjustable powder plate
>> and think of a way to include a transparent glass for viewing.
>>
>> Keep it coming.  I appreciate it.
>>
>>
>> Jojo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> *Cc:* jth...@hotmail.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2012 4:41 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rydberg matter and the leptonic monopol
>>
>> JoJo:
>>
>> Sorry for taking so long, but I wanted to think about my response for a
>> while.
>>
>>
>>
>> This maybe a lot more feedback then you ever wanted, it so … apologies.
>>
>>
>>
>> You need not take this following design whole cloth; it is an attempt to
>> describe some design priorities I think are important.
>>
>>
>>
>> The vertical cylinder is a good design because it is best to confine high
>> pressure hydrogen. You cannot find a square hydrogen tank.
>>
>>
>>
>> Temperature control inside the reactor is important. Your reactor should
>> include a number of heat zones.  Experimentally, it is important to know
>> how hot each zone gets. If you don’t do this you are flying blind. Without
>> knowing what is going on inside your reactor in detail, it will be hard to
>> determine if you are making progress.
>>
>>
>>
>> The more debugging tools that you can come up with, the more progress you
>> will make in the long run.
>>
>>
>>
>> One zone would be close to the spark.  Another would be on the powder;
>> finely, the coldest part of the cylinder (where it contacts the steam)
>> where condensation of the catalyst might take place.
>>
>> I would include a transparent window that lets through visible light and
>> infrared radiation in your design.  Place it in a convenient location on
>> the surface of the cylinder… maybe at its top… where you can see all or at
>> least most of these zones. This will allow you to remotely measure their
>> temperature somehow, say with an infrared thermometer.
>>
>>
>>
>> Design the experimental reactor so that you can clean the inside of the
>> window. It is no good having a window if you can’t see through it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Include a thin walled pipe axially positioned inside the cylinder to act
>> as a chimney. Hot gas will rise up the pipe to the top of the cylinder, and
>> then the gas will cool at the top of the cylinder then descend down the
>> exterior side of the pipe between that exterior pipe wall and the inside
>> surface of the cylinder. The gas will be further cooled by the inside
>> surface of the cylinder if its outside surface is in contact with water
>> and/or steam.
>>
>>
>>
>> This double wall configuration will establish a strong circular
>> convective gas flow between hot zones and cold zones.
>>
>>
>>
>> Place the spark at the bottom of the pipe. Next place the catalyst near
>> the spark covering the surface of a flat half ring. High heat is needed to
>> vaporize the catalyst completely.
>>
>>
>>
>> The catalyst is initially in the form of a hydride and must vaporize. The
>> flat ring (called the catalyst ring) is located on one side of the wall of
>> the pipe. It should be positioned so that you can see the spark from the
>> top of the cylinder. The flat half ring will allow you to see the spark
>> through the hole in the ring. The spark should produce enough heat to
>> vaporize the catalyst.
>>
>>
>>
>> The powder should also be placed on a half ring.  This flat ring (called
>> the powder ring) is located on the other side of the wall of the pipe
>> opposite the catalyst ring. It should be positioned so that you can see
>> both the spark and the catalyst ring through the window. This flat half
>> ring will allow you to see the spark through the hole in the ring.
>>
>>
>>
>> The powder ring should be adjustable such that the distance from the
>> spark can be varied.
>>
>>
>>
>> JoJo Jaro said: *I will be including all elements suggested as catalyst
>> - ie iron, carbon, copper, tungsten, sodium,  potassium and cesium,
>> although cesium might be harder to acquire.*
>>
>>
>>
>> IMHO, the catalyst used should vaporize at least in part or completely.
>> The operational temperature of your reactor should be high enough to keep
>> the catalyst vaporized.
>>
>>
>>
>> For example, the potassium catalyst type reactor should operate at about
>> 600C.
>>
>>
>>
>> Put elements that don’t vaporize in with the powder, if you don’t the
>> catalyst and the powder cannot interact.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don’t use magnetic fields, they might kill the reaction and be very
>> careful of radiation exposure.
>>
>>
>>
>> Don’t exceed safe hydrogen pressures during catalyst hydride vaporization.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards: Axil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Jojo Jaro <jth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> Axil, Excellent series of posts on Rydberg Matter.  Very informative.
>>> Thanks.  I now have a better understanding.
>>>
>>> My question centers on speculation about how Rossi might be creating
>>> Rydberg matter of Cesium or Potassium as you speculate.  Tell me if my
>>> speculation makes sense.
>>>
>>> In Rossi's earlier reactor design, I speculate he had a cylindrical
>>> reactor with a wire in the middle which he subjects to high voltage.  The
>>> high voltage creates sparks.  The high voltage may have been applied at a
>>> specific frequency.  I suspect the high voltage applied at just the right
>>> frequency would create tons of and tons of Rydberg matter via sparking.  I
>>> am thinking that if the frequency were too low, there would not be enough
>>> Rydberg matter created.  If the frequency were too high, it would possibly
>>> create a too high localized temperature to "cook" and melt the nickel
>>> powder rendering its nanostructures inert thereby killing the LENR
>>> reactions.  I'm thinking the trick is to find out the right amount of
>>> sparking - enough to create tons of Rydberg matter but not too much to melt
>>> the nickel nanostructures.  It would also be important to design the heat
>>> and convective flow inside the reactor to properly distribute the heat.
>>>
>>> With this cylindrical setup, the nickel powder would be "bunching" at
>>> the bottom of the cylindrical reactor.  Applying repeated sparking onto
>>> this pile would increase the chances of melting the nickel nanostructure
>>> due to increased localized high temperatures due to sparking.  This would
>>> explain Rossi's quiescence problem.  He can only apply sparks for so long
>>> till the Ni powders would melt.
>>>
>>> To solve this quiescense problem, Rossi had to figure out how to
>>> distribute the sparks over a wider area - basically he has to spread the
>>> nickel powder.  I believe this is what prompted Rossi to design his "FAT
>>> Cat" design.  If I remember correctly, his home E-Cat was shaped like a
>>> laptop with the reactor itself being only 20x20x1 cm in dimensions.  This
>>> is essentially two metal plates separated by a thin layer of pressurized
>>> hydrogen.  The nickel is spread out thinly over the surface of the plate.
>>> He then subjects the plates to high voltage to create sparks.  He controls
>>> the amount of sparks by varying the frequency of the high voltage.  If he
>>> needs more reaction, he increases the frequency of the sparks creating more
>>> Rydberg matter to catalyze more reactions.  If he lowers the amount of
>>> sparks, he lowers the reaction rate.  Spreading the Ni powder would also
>>> have the effect of spreading the heat thereby minimizing the chances of too
>>> high localized temperatures.
>>>
>>> In DGT's design, they have cylindrical reactors machined from a big
>>> block of steel.  I believe they would then put a wire in the middle just
>>> like Rossi's original design.  (I believe that the purpose of the "window"
>>> in DGT's test reactors is to observe the sparks during testing.)  DGT
>>> minimized the quiescene problem by using Ni sparingly and spreading it  out
>>> over a longer cylindrical reactor.  Rossi's cylindrical reactor was short
>>> and fat, hence his Ni powder would be bunched up in the bottom.  DGT's
>>> cylindrical design was longer and thinner, thereby spreading the Ni powder,
>>> minimizing quiescense as they claimed.
>>>
>>> To me this appears to be evident.  I believe part of the electronics in
>>> Rossi's blue control box is electronics for controlling the sparking rate,
>>> which he calls "RF".
>>>
>>> So basically, I think you may be right about Rydberg matter.  I think
>>> the strategy is to design a reactor that would subject the Ni and catalyst
>>> mix to sparks promoting the creation of Rydberg matter.  Then make sure
>>> that there is sufficient turbulence inside the rreactor to agitate and blow
>>> the powder all over thereby minimizing the chances of "cooking" the powder
>>> while simultaneously increasing the chances of a chance encounter
>>> between the Rydberg matter catalyst and the Ni nuclei.
>>>
>>> So, essentially, I think the secret is sparks with lots of  turbulent
>>> mixing. I have designed a new reactor setup to try out these ideas.  I will
>>> have a horizontal cylindrical reactor with a "stripped" spark plug
>>> electrode as the high voltage source.  I will then drive this spark plug
>>> with an Ignition coil actuated by a Power MOSFET driven by the PWM output
>>> of my MF-28 data acquisition module.  I will program the sparking frequency
>>> by controlling the rate of PWM output.  (Later on, I will program a
>>> feedback mechanism to lower the sparking rate if the temperature gets too
>>> high.)  The trick would then be to find the right amount of sparking for
>>> the highest amount of heat production.  To increase chances of success, I
>>> will be including all elements suggested as catalyst - ie iron, carbon,
>>> copper, tungsten, sodium,  potassium and cesium, although cesium might be
>>> harder to acquire.
>>>
>>> What do you think of my plan?
>>>
>>> Once again, thanks for sharing your theoretical understanding so that we
>>> engineers can build and do the experiments.
>>>
>>> Jojo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:31 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rydberg matter and the leptonic monopol
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Bob,
>>>
>>> Much thanks for your interest in this post.
>>>
>>> In order to answer your question properly, it’s going to take some time…
>>> so be patient.
>>>
>>> I will respond in a series of posts.
>>>
>>> Post #1
>>>
>>> Bob Higgins asked: “Rydberg hydrogen has a very loosely bound electron”.
>>>
>>> Axil answers:
>>>
>>> Besides hydrogen, many other elements and even various chemical
>>> compounds can take the form of Rydberg matter.
>>>
>>> For example in the Rossi reactor, I now suspect that the ‘secret sauce’
>>> that Rossi tells us catalyzes his reaction is cesium in the form of Rydberg
>>> matter. I say this because of the 400C internal operating temperature range
>>> that Rossi says his reactor operates at.
>>>
>>> If this internal operating temperature is actually 500C, then the
>>> reactor may be hot enough for his secret sauce to be potassium based
>>> Rydberg matter.
>>>
>>> Bob Higgins asked: “With such large orbitals as Rydberg electrons
>>> occupy, how can such a phenomenon be considered inside a nickel lattice?”
>>>
>>>
>>> Axil answers:
>>>
>>> This Rydberg matter never gets inside the lattice of the micro powder.
>>> This complex crystal can grow very large (1). It sits on the surface of the
>>> pile of micro-powder where under the influence of its strong dipole moment,
>>> coherent electrostatic radiation of just the right frequency lowers the
>>> coulomb barrier of the nickel nuclei.
>>>
>>>
>>> Because this is an electrostatically mediated reaction, only the surface
>>> of the nickel micro-grain is affected. The electromagnetic field cannot
>>> penetrate inside the nickel grain.
>>>
>>> But this field does penetrate deeply in and among the various grains of
>>> the pile of powder to generate a maximized reaction with every grain
>>> contributing.
>>>
>>> The electrostatic radiation of this dipole moment catalyzes the fusion
>>> reaction. In detail, this strong dipole moment lowers this coulomb barrier
>>> of the nuclei of the nickel just enough to allow a entangled proton cooper
>>> pair to tunnel inside the nickel nucleus, but not enough to allow the
>>> nickel atoms of the lattice to fuse.
>>>
>>> Micro powder allows for a large surface area relative to the total
>>> volume of nickel. More surface area allows for more cold fusion reaction.
>>> This is why the use of micro powder is a breakthrough in cold fusion
>>> technology.
>>>
>>> On page 7 of the reference, this aspect of the experiment is revealing:
>>>
>>> “In order to complete the story of transformation, we should consider
>>> this problem: where does the transformation take place, either throughout
>>> the whole space of the explosion chamber or only in the plasma channel? To
>>> answer this question, we carried out experiments with uranium salts (uranyl
>>> sulfate, UO2SO4) [3].”
>>>
>>> The answer that they found was as follows: throughout the whole space
>>> of the explosion chamber.
>>>
>>> This is to be expected because the coherent dipole moment of Rydberg
>>> matter is extremely strong and long ranged.  It is like an electromagnetic
>>> laser beam that can exert its influence over a distance of centimeters.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (1) LeClair said he saw the size of one of his crystals as large as a
>>> few centimeters.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Bob Higgins 
>>> <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice posts on the Rydberg effects, Axil.  I like reading them.  Please
>>>> continue posting them.  But, I am confused.  Could you can help me
>>>> understand these questions:
>>>>
>>>> Rydberg hydrogen has a very loosely bound electron.  How would these
>>>> Rydberg electrons survive high temperature phonon collisions without the
>>>> atom becoming ionized and as a result breaking up the condensate?
>>>>
>>>> With such large orbitals as Rydberg electrons occupy, how can such a
>>>> phenomenon be considered inside a nickel lattice?  The electron orbitals
>>>> would extend greater than the nickel lattice spacing.  Other condensates
>>>> are possible, but why would you think these are Rydberg?  While we know
>>>> that the LENR appears to happen at the surface, and it also appears to
>>>> require support from within the lattice (loading) - so it sounds like some
>>>> kind of condensate effect is needed within the lattice.
>>>>
>>>> In the NanoSpire case, it is not clear how the H-O-H-O- crystals that
>>>> form are Rydberg.  What evidence supports this?  They may be some kind of
>>>> condensate, but not necessarily Rydberg.
>>>>
>>>> The large dipole moments you describe would certainly make it easy for
>>>> the Rydberg atoms to couple to other atoms electronically and form a
>>>> condensate from that coupling.  However, I don't see how that strong dipole
>>>> provides support for the charge evidence that you described from
>>>> NanoSpire.  Can you explain that a little more?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:03 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>  Rydberg matter and the leptonic monopol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This post is third in the series on Rydberg matter which includes as
>>>>>> follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cold Fusion Magic Dust
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rydberg matter and cavitation
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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