To get a idea about the speed of the proton, it might be possible to make a comparison with the speed of the neutron at various temperature. This might be OK because the proton and the neutron are about the same size and weight. The neutron is just a proton and an electron together…Right!
2000K – hot - 7060 meters/second 330K – room temperature- 2870 M/S 20K – Real cold - 706 M/S On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:46 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > Robin, I would think the velocity of the proton of the same energy as > compared to an electron would be the square root of 2000 or 45 times slower > due to the velocity squared relationship. Now, if the proton slows down > much faster than the electron then the deceleration would be a lot > greater. Perhaps 10 times greater? If you factor this into account then > the radiation levels of the two particles are relatively close. What do > you think? > > Dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mixent <mix...@bigpond.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Wed, Jun 6, 2012 1:35 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:about Triumph Management (and LENR) > > In reply to David Roberson's message of Wed, 6 Jun 2012 01:12:10 -0400 (EDT): > Hi, > [snip] > > > >I have long wondered whether or not protons generate bremsstrahlung radiation > in the same manner as electrons. It seems that the charge is responsible for > the radiation and not the mass unless you are suggesting that the slower rate > of > deceleration of a proton versus and electron as it travels through matter is > the > reason. > > Precisely. Furthermore the actual velocity of a proton is about 2000 times > lower > than that of an electron of the same energy (relativistic considerations > aside). > > > >Would the same deceleration rate for either particle generate the same > radiation effect? > > I suspect so. > > > > >The flip side of this coin is that the proton would travel proportionally > further as a result of the lower deceleration rate. > > Actually, I don't think they travel as far. I suspect this is because they are > much slower, and consequently have more time to interact with the electrons of > the atoms they pass through than an electron of equivalent energy. Alpha > particles have even shorter trajectories. > Besides, the positively charged particles tend to attract the electrons of > other > atoms, dragging them away from their parent atoms, whereas a fast electron > pushes other electrons away, making them more inclined to simply move over a > little rather then get stripped from their parent atom. > This means that fast electrons don't get as many opportunities to dispose of > their energy and hence travel farther. > [snip] > Regards, > > Robin van Spaandonk > http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html > >
