New diseases caused by new bacteria or viruses are simply variation within a 
species.  The bacteria never change to become something else other than 
bacteria.  This is not Macro-Evolution, this is micro-evolution.



Jojo


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sunil Shah 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots


  I really don't know if "new diseases" counts as an example of evolution to 
you,
  but a quick search came up with this
  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK45714/

  A weird example of this I suppose, is this contagious cancer.
  http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140123141742.htm

  I was rather awestruck by the implications of such a disease (the fact that it
  carries the genome of the ORIGINAL bearer!)

  But I will also agree, that contagious cancer isn't a disease-spreading 
"species"
  (a virus or bacterium). So we could disqualified it from the "new diseases" 
suggestion.

  /Sunil




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  From: jojoiznar...@gmail.com
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots
  Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:27:46 +0800


  Baloney, if you "know" the subject as you claim, and there are thousands of 
books; then it should not be a problem for you to give me ONE example.

  Just one example of an observed macro-evolution event where we can see one 
species change into another.  JUST ONE...



  Jojo


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jed Rothwell 
    To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
    Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 10:51 AM
    Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists As Idiots


    Jojo Iznart <jojoiznar...@gmail.com> wrote:


      To Jed and the rest of Darwinian Evolutionists here:

      I have a simple question:

      1.  What is your best evidence of Darwinian Evolution occuring? 


    There are thousands of books full of irrefutable proof that Darwinian 
evolution is occurring. For you, or anyone else, to question it is exactly like 
questioning Newton's law of gravity, or the fact that bacteria causes disease.


    I am not going to debate this. Anyone who denies basic science on this 
level is grossly ignorant. These nonsensical distinctions between macro- and 
micro-level evolution have no basis in fact. They are the product of religious 
creationism, which is sacrilegious nonsense, since it posits God as a cosmic 
deceiver who filled every nook and cranny of life with proof of evolution just 
as a trick to fool us.


    If you want to learn about evolution and biology, read a textbook. Don't 
annoy people who know the subject.


    I will not try to spoon-feed you facts about nature that you should have 
learned in 3rd grade. Anyone who makes the kind of ridiculous assertions about 
evolution that you make is beyond my help. I spent far too much time trying to 
educate people about cold fusion. When people have no idea of how the laws of 
thermodynamics operate, or the difference between power and energy, there is no 
chance they can understand cold fusion. It is a waste of time trying to explain 
it. I have uploaded papers on cold fusion, including some guides for beginners. 
Other people have uploaded beginner's guides to evolution. Learn from them, or 
wallow in ignorance. Your choice. As Arthur Clarke used to say: over and out!


    - Jed

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