Whatever is the reason may be, Glorifying success accomplished through malpractice by many VI individuals and organisations is going to end soon. I came from poor family. My parents couldn’t afford to feed me 2 times meal. I was enrolled into Marathi medium school. Hard work has no excuse and short cut. I believe authorities will take note of the current trend and will take disciplinary action against culprits.
On 8/17/22, anirudh rao <[email protected]> wrote: > in my view, the schools adopting the English as their medium and > teaching the science and the mathematics in their curriculum is the > way forward. > inclusive education should be pushed but, the question is that, are > the schools that teach the normals equipped to handle the visually > challenged? > > On 8/17/22, Satguru Rathi <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Well, computers are the part of the whole system, but specific subjects >> have their own merrits. First, one can not learn computer without having >> basic English language skills. Despite the availability of the Hindi >> softwares, I see no specific push by the government to make it more >> usable. Even if one argues to learn it the Hindi way, most of the time >> he would find being end up useing "English software" for various tasks. >> We don't yet have a very reliable Hindi OCR available despite of various >> efforts. Projects come and go with much hipe from the government but end >> up dead most of the time. Now, how many English medium schools are there >> in India for VI? Perhaps 1 or 2. Are they sufficient? No! How could we >> few fortunates expect from everyone in the VI community to come on board >> Access India and join this debate? George sir is right! Time has come >> for the government and the NGOs to make the required changes in the >> education system decisively and swiftly. >> >> >> Satguru. >> >> On 8/17/2022 2:39 PM, Amena Kanchwala wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> It is a wonderful conversation going on. I will still support making >>> the examination software accessible with the screen readers, and >>> enabling visually impaired candidates appear in their exams >>> independently. If this happens, then the people who don’t know how to >>> operate computers will start learning computers in order to get the >>> job. People will start learning maths and reasoning. Training centres >>> will also start teaching the same. There will be competition between >>> visually impaired candidates only. Currently, no one wants to give >>> their efforts, because they think that all their efforts will go in >>> vain if they have to compete with sighted scribes. People like us have >>> our own constraints. Even the well prepared VI Candidate cannot >>> compete with the well prepared sighted scribe. I have seen the SBI >>> exam cut off for VI candidates going higher than that of sighted >>> candidates. This is just because of highly paid scribes. And because >>> of this, even the genuine VI candidates stop preparing, and >>> endup entering into the vicious cycle of scribe business. >>> >>> And yes, I feel that it is difficult to do strict invigilation at all >>> the places in the similar manner. Candidates and scribes can use the >>> code words to tell the correct answer. Also, at some places >>> invigilators can be polite. It depends on the person. >>> >>> Giving the exams independently will give them confidence. They will >>> start giving the effort for the same, and can make themselves capable >>> for the applied position. Few months ago, I gave a US based online >>> exam independently, and trust me I feel good after clearing the same. >>> >>> All of us just need to change our mindset. >>> >>> Thanks and regards, >>> >>> Ame >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 2:16 PM Tanmay Srivastava >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Extremely sorry for such a long mail. >>> >>> Earlier, I was not thinking to give my opinion on this issue but, >>> satguru ji's mail compelled me to talk about it. >>> >>> There are a few things which needs to be addressed. >>> >>> Firstly, why there is no separate ministry for people with >>> disabilities? >>> >>> In other words, why MSJE is running department of empowerment of >>> persons with disabilities? >>> >>> It is quite understandable that, when a ministry has so many >>> departments then they set work on a priority basis. >>> >>> Secondly, why MSJE deals with special schools, I mean if education >>> ministry takes charge of special schools then they can do a lot to >>> enhance the entire special education system. >>> >>> Last but not the least, satguru ji I agree with you 100% but, same >>> thing goes with computer as well. >>> >>> I remember, when we were in 11th standard, we had to give an >>> undertaking to pursue computer as an additional subject. >>> >>> According to which, school will not be liable in case of any >>> mishappening. >>> >>> School can afford well experienced computer teachers but, they >>> left us with a computer instructer who did not have any experience >>> to teach computer in 11th and 12th standard to a totally blind >>> person, however it is important to mention that, she tried her >>> best to get the result. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 17 Aug, 2022, 11:08 am Satguru Rathi, >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Well said! There are schools which teach Maths upto class 8th >>> only and untill recently, few counted schools tought it upto >>> 10th. How one expects from a blind candidate who has studied >>> Maths till class 8th and was never even told in school about >>> something called "Reasoning"! How would he solve such >>> questions? Even if some fortunate one gets enrolled in some >>> coatching, will he be able to understand all those concepts at >>> par with his sighted pears? We must first focus on >>> strengthning our education system. >>> >>> >>> Best. >>> >>> On 8/16/2022 7:31 PM, Pinkesh Tailor wrote: >>>> Firstly the examination must be made visually impaired >>>> friendly. >>>> We >>>> are just been accommodated for examination which are meant for >>>> sighted >>>> people. Just giving some extra time, exemption from tables and >>>> graphical questions etc is not going to make any sense. And the >>>> fundamental issues remains unanswered, so as to how the special >>>> schools can trained visually impaired on logic, math which do >>>> not >>>> include visual graph or on tactile based questions at the >>>> primary >>>> and >>>> secondary schooling age. Some or many of us may be fortunate >>>> enough to >>>> have inclusive education, or having a good family status along >>>> with >>>> support system. What about the unfortunates, should they die >>>> because >>>> of this? Until these persisting issues in relation to the >>>> education >>>> system for visually impaired do not get resolved, I suggest >>>> that >>>> organizations must frame interview based verbal discussion, >>>> such >>>> as >>>> testing the candidates on various parameters such as >>>> psychometric, >>>> reasoning, general affairs, basics of computing with screan >>>> readerrs, >>>> English/Hindi reading and writing skill, mathematical ability >>>> etc. >>>> Despite of all the efforts put on by our community for >>>> reservation in >>>> employment, the companies are still lagging in achieving full >>>> Vacancy. >>>> This is some where a result of disguised discrimination in the >>>> public >>>> sector organizations, and even in general the big private >>>> sector >>>> employers are willing to recruit only those visually impaired >>>> who >>>> have >>>> spent a lots of money on education / higher education. So who >>>> bothers >>>> about the unfortunates and economically backward blind >>>> candidates? >>>> >>>> On 8/16/22, Sandesh HR<[email protected]> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi friends, >>>>> Kethan said rightly. >>>>> Extremely sorry I request you all read long e-mail. >>>>> strengthen Fundamentally eligibility of candidate, selection >>>>> and >>>>> exam >>>>> written format processes well. >>>>> >>>>> Present format also have issues like visualize and understand >>>>> the >>>>> journey of listen and write the public sector exam questions. >>>>> scribe >>>>> will read the question to vision impaired. Scribe takes one or >>>>> two >>>>> minute To read the instruction to screen reader users. >>>>> Followed listener will listen give the answer one one or two >>>>> minute. >>>>> That means vision impaired completes one instruction almost 3 >>>>> to >>>>> 4 minutes. >>>>> Out of 80 minutes if vision impaired follow he or she able to >>>>> not more >>>>> than 20 to 25 instructions. >>>>> My view is strengthen the system. >>>>> Make the exam screens accessible and user friendly (compatible >>>>> with >>>>> keyboard and low vision friendly)with screen reader >>>>> If person has use digital device to write the exam on their >>>>> own >>>>> Insite is person with vision impaired join banking and other >>>>> public >>>>> sector jobs without knowing computer spelling and mobility >>>>> knowledge. >>>>> Present government system is some of vision impaired join the >>>>> government jobs without require knowledge and skills. >>>>> Therefore >>>>> public >>>>> sector changing their perception about vision impaired hiring. >>>>> More >>>>> towards functional low vision. >>>>> After candidate's hiring organization approachs subject mater >>>>> experts >>>>> to spend exstra money to train the vision impaired candidates. >>>>> Therefore bank put the pressure on facilitators teach all >>>>> vision >>>>> impaired employees in less amount of 100 hours. >>>>> Financial burden government sectors and corporate sectors as >>>>> well. >>>>> Learner feels Burdon and pressure to learn from typing to >>>>> internet, >>>>> My view is need to emphasize our community before taking the >>>>> exams >>>>> improve computer, spelling, English mobility efficiency and >>>>> process >>>>> discipline. >>>>> Exam duration has to increase on reality wise. >>>>> Example: screen reader user has to attend the 100 questions in >>>>> 80 minutes. >>>>> Screen reader user has to answer less than almost 30 to 40 >>>>> seconds. >>>>> He or she has to understand the layout of window, followed by >>>>> comprehend the screen reader accent, need to decide >>>>> efficiently >>>>> use >>>>> keyboard commands to use to quickly complete the exam. >>>>> Comprehend the questions, he or she has to listen screen >>>>> reader >>>>> key >>>>> command twice or trice less than 30 seconds. >>>>> If screen reader user taking 90 seconds to solve one question, >>>>> that >>>>> means before apply government exams need to ask our self am I >>>>> efficient? >>>>> If any person feels need to improve should take action to >>>>> become >>>>> excellent on computer, English, competitive exams. >>>>> Lot of work involves back ground all the coaching center >>>>> syllabus has to >>>>> change. >>>>> Need to do the capacity building the coaching center faculties >>>>> teach >>>>> reasoning, aptitude and English. >>>>> One more glitch will begin again scribe banks as well if we >>>>> recommends. >>>>> >>>>> Example: few states very difficult get scribe who is good at >>>>> reading >>>>> english and Hindi. >>>>> Since government attend the exam in Hindi still scribes unable >>>>> to read >>>>> English properly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My view is all stake holders together work make our community >>>>> good in >>>>> society and solve the exam >>>>> Let us do retrospection rather than blame the scribes. >>>>> Action VS reaction. >>>>> >>>>> I have felt to share my incite and I am not against views . >>>>> >>>>> On 8/16/22, Ketan Kothari<[email protected]> >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Friends, >>>>>> >>>>>> Although the problems mentioned in the article are true to >>>>>> some >>>>>> extent, the blind community is also not without blame. Also, >>>>>> there >>>>>> are some glaring inconsistencies in the news item and I >>>>>> wonder >>>>>> why >>>>>> this coaching institute is not reported to police? I would >>>>>> have been >>>>>> happy if there were by-line give in the article. >>>>>> >>>>>> In most cases, VI people don't wish to read and that is a >>>>>> fact >>>>>> which >>>>>> we must accept. That may be true for even the sighted folks >>>>>> but in >>>>>> our case, the options of gaining knowledge are fewer. >>>>>> >>>>>> For most exams there is a lot of material avaiable but one >>>>>> needs to >>>>>> search carefully. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> Ketan >>>>>> >>>>>> On 14/08/2022, Minar Singh<[email protected]> >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> From Charging Lakhs to Offering Proxy Candidates, Is Exam >>>>>>> 'Scribe >>>>>>> Service' Turning Into 'Business'? >>>>>>> New Delhi, India >>>>>>> Scribes charge from Rs 2,000 to rs 5 lakh for exam >>>>>>> (Representational >>>>>>> Image) >>>>>>> Scribes charge from Rs 2,000 to rs 5 lakh for exam >>>>>>> (Representational >>>>>>> Image) >>>>>>> Lack of scribes for candidates with visual impairment has >>>>>>> led >>>>>>> to a >>>>>>> rampant illegal ‘scribe business’ across the country, >>>>>>> activists demand >>>>>>> national scribe banks. >>>>>>> Help offered to visually impaired students in form of >>>>>>> scribes >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> turning into a business, where on one hand deserving >>>>>>> students >>>>>>> find it >>>>>>> difficult to get a scribe, on the other hand, many ‘coaching >>>>>>> institutes’ offer scribes as ‘proxy’ candidates to solve >>>>>>> papers on >>>>>>> behalf of students in exchange for lakhs of rupees. >>>>>>> Depending >>>>>>> on the >>>>>>> exams, several visually impaired candidates have reportedly >>>>>>> been asked >>>>>>> anywhere from Rs 1 lakh to 5 lakh from scribes. >>>>>>> The availability of scribes in exchange for a large amount >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> money >>>>>>> has made seeking payments in return for helping in exams an >>>>>>> unsaid >>>>>>> norm. This puts candidates, especially those from low-income >>>>>>> backgrounds at a disadvantage. >>>>>>> In 2021, a 31-year-old person with visual impairment, Satvir >>>>>>> Jogi, had >>>>>>> to miss his exam as he failed to find a scribe despite >>>>>>> multiple >>>>>>> attempts. For Jogi, who has been applying for several >>>>>>> government exams >>>>>>> in the last few years, arranging a scribe has always been a >>>>>>> challenge. >>>>>>> “Due to a paucity of reading material for visually impaired >>>>>>> candidates >>>>>>> — online and in physical form — even the preparation for an >>>>>>> exam is >>>>>>> more difficult when compared to visually-abled candidates. >>>>>>> To >>>>>>> top it >>>>>>> off, we have the biggest challenge of finding scribes. How >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> these >>>>>>> exams fair and equal for us?” says Jogi. >>>>>>> He adds, “I have given from Rs 1,000 to Rs 2,000 on multiple >>>>>>> occasions >>>>>>> to scribes to write my paper. If a visually impaired >>>>>>> candidate >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> lucky, then they sometimes get a volunteer scribe on time, >>>>>>> otherwise, >>>>>>> scribes demand money as per their wish for appearing for >>>>>>> exams.” >>>>>>> SCRIBES ALSO BEING USED AS PROXY CANDIDATES >>>>>>> Lack of resources and limited vacancies for the visually >>>>>>> impaired has >>>>>>> made many take the illegal route as well. SK Singh, a rights >>>>>>> activist >>>>>>> for people with visual impairment and secretary of the >>>>>>> National >>>>>>> Association for the Blind, claimed that the scribe business >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> an open >>>>>>> secret now. It stems from a lack of scribe resources and >>>>>>> other >>>>>>> challenges, including not enough material to prepare for >>>>>>> exams >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> fewer job vacancies for people with visual impairment. >>>>>>> They demand anywhere from Rs 2,000 to just appear for the >>>>>>> exam >>>>>>> to Rs 5 >>>>>>> lakh to clear it. With the demand for more money, scribes >>>>>>> also >>>>>>> give >>>>>>> services to prepare on the behalf of the candidate and >>>>>>> appear >>>>>>> for the >>>>>>> exam, alleged SK Singh, a rights activist for people with >>>>>>> visual >>>>>>> impairment and secretary of the National Association for the >>>>>>> Blind. >>>>>>> “Unemployment rates are at an all-time high and everyone >>>>>>> wants >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> secure a job. Several scribes have found this opportunity to >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> money out of it. They demand anywhere from Rs 2,000 to just >>>>>>> appear for >>>>>>> the exam to Rs 5 lakh to clear it. With the demand for more >>>>>>> money, >>>>>>> scribes also give services to prepare on the behalf of the >>>>>>> candidate >>>>>>> and appear for the exam.” >>>>>>> ‘WITH OUR SCRIBES DON’T WORRY ABOUT PASSING EXAM’ >>>>>>> To get to know some of the ‘proxy scribes’, News18 tried to >>>>>>> contact a >>>>>>> few of them. One such person, who runs a coaching center in >>>>>>> Mumbai, >>>>>>> told News18.com, “We have an academy. You only have to give >>>>>>> us >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> syllabus and make us meet the candidate. We are quite >>>>>>> experienced at >>>>>>> it, so you don’t have to worry about passing the exam.” >>>>>>> He said, from teachers to students his academy has scribes >>>>>>> candidates >>>>>>> of all ages and for various exams. >>>>>>> Speaking about the fee charged for being the scribe, he said >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> depends on the exam. “While the fee is less for the >>>>>>> non-technical >>>>>>> exams, the fee will be more for technical exams. But don’t >>>>>>> worry about >>>>>>> the fee, we have an installment system also. A candidate can >>>>>>> pay even >>>>>>> after they get a job,” he said. >>>>>>> ‘NO COMPLAINTS RECEIVED OF SCRIBE BUSINESS’ >>>>>>> The authorities, however, claim to not be aware of any >>>>>>> ‘scribe >>>>>>> business’ going on in exams. >>>>>>> When News18 contacted the Department of Empowerment of >>>>>>> Persons >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> Disabilities, which is under the Ministry of Social Justice >>>>>>> & >>>>>>> Empowerment, an official, on condition of anonymity, said, >>>>>>> “Till now >>>>>>> we have not received any complaints of ‘scribe business’." >>>>>>> “In the future, however, if we get any such complaints we >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> inquire >>>>>>> about it. Meanwhile, if there are reports of policy being >>>>>>> misused, >>>>>>> then the state government can inquire into it.” >>>>>>> The official added, “The policy is made for the betterment >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> candidates, but there are people who might take advantage of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> loophole, but there are bodies to look into it.” >>>>>>> LACK OF CONSENSUS AMONG AUTHORITIES OVER QUALIFICATION, >>>>>>> AVAILABILITY OF >>>>>>> SCRIBE >>>>>>> The authorities have allegedly also failed to come to a >>>>>>> consensus >>>>>>> about implementing guidelines for availing of scribe >>>>>>> facilities. While >>>>>>> the guidelines issued by the Ministry of Social Justice and >>>>>>> Employment >>>>>>> published the Guidelines for Persons with Benchmark >>>>>>> Disabilities in >>>>>>> August 2018 give candidates the option to either bring their >>>>>>> own >>>>>>> scribes or request one from the exam-conducting body, in >>>>>>> many >>>>>>> cases >>>>>>> authorities deny candidates to bring their own scribe. >>>>>>> In the recently held TS TET exam, many candidates were >>>>>>> uncertain till >>>>>>> hours before exams whether or not they will get a scribe. >>>>>>> Candidates >>>>>>> from different districts of Telangana said that their admit >>>>>>> cards >>>>>>> mentioned that candidates with 40 per cent disability can >>>>>>> avail >>>>>>> scribes, however, there was no mention if they will be >>>>>>> provided with a >>>>>>> scribe by the exam conducting body or if the students can >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> their >>>>>>> own scribe for the exam. The confusion escalated among the >>>>>>> candidates >>>>>>> when the TSTET helpdesk set up in different districts of the >>>>>>> State >>>>>>> provided mixed information to the candidates. >>>>>>> News18 tried to call some of the district helpdesk numbers >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> verify >>>>>>> the claims. An operator from the Hyderabad helpdesk said >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> candidates will have to go to the exam centre a day before >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> exams >>>>>>> to inform the administration that they require a scribe and >>>>>>> then they >>>>>>> will be allocated a scribe. Meanwhile, the Khammam helpdesk >>>>>>> said the >>>>>>> candidates can get their scribes but they have to be only >>>>>>> Class 9 >>>>>>> qualified. However, Hyderabad’s helpdesk claimed that >>>>>>> candidates >>>>>>> cannot get their scribe and only the exam-conducting body >>>>>>> (Department >>>>>>> of School Education) will provide a scribe to candidates >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> disabilities. >>>>>>> The TET convenor Radha Reddy denied the claims of confusion >>>>>>> among the >>>>>>> candidates. She told New18, “There should be no confusion >>>>>>> among the >>>>>>> candidates as these exams happen every year and candidates >>>>>>> should know >>>>>>> that students cannot get their own scribes. Those who fit >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> disability criteria will be provided with a scribe at the >>>>>>> exam >>>>>>> center." >>>>>>> While guidelines by Ministry clearly state that candidates >>>>>>> have option >>>>>>> of bringing own scribe to seeking one from exam conducting >>>>>>> bodies, >>>>>>> rules often change at state-level. >>>>>>> On informing the qualifications of scribes TSTET convenor >>>>>>> said >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> scribes will only be class 9 pass and inter-pass. The >>>>>>> guidelines >>>>>>> issued by Ministry, however, suggest that scribes should not >>>>>>> be more >>>>>>> than the minimum qualification criteria of the examination. >>>>>>> However, >>>>>>> the qualification of the scribe/reader should always be >>>>>>> matric >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> above. >>>>>>> Similar incidents of confusion over the scribes’ >>>>>>> availability >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> qualification are reported in multiple educational and >>>>>>> recruitment >>>>>>> exams. >>>>>>> DEMAND FOR A NATIONAL, STATE SCRIBE POOL >>>>>>> Activists have been demanding the government create scribe >>>>>>> banks so >>>>>>> that any examinee can readily avail of certified scribes on >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> voluntary basis. Under a watch, this can also put a stop to >>>>>>> proxy >>>>>>> candidate business. >>>>>>> Activists cite the lack of Central or State-regulated scribe >>>>>>> pools, >>>>>>> which can be accessed by anyone, to the burgeoning illegal >>>>>>> scribe >>>>>>> business. To add to their woes, guidelines related to >>>>>>> scribes >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> unclear across the country. >>>>>>> SK Singh, says, “The government had come up with the >>>>>>> qualification >>>>>>> guidelines to curb exam malpractices, but that is only >>>>>>> working >>>>>>> against >>>>>>> students. There can be multiple ways to curb malpractices. >>>>>>> Why >>>>>>> is the >>>>>>> onus not on the invigilators to check if the candidate is >>>>>>> using the >>>>>>> help of their scribe or not? Putting a cap on the scribe’s >>>>>>> qualification curbs visually impaired and other candidates >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> disabilities to appear for exams.” >>>>>>> The General Secretary of the National Platform for the >>>>>>> Rights >>>>>>> of the >>>>>>> Disabled, Muralidharan, said that these norms would only >>>>>>> make >>>>>>> it more >>>>>>> difficult for the candidates to find a scribe. He said, “If >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> national >>>>>>> and state scribe bank will be available, this will >>>>>>> automatically curb >>>>>>> such practices.” >>>>>>> Founder of the All India Conference of the Blind, J L Paul, >>>>>>> said, >>>>>>> “Under Rights of Persons with Disabilities Act, 2016, all >>>>>>> visually >>>>>>> impaired people have the right to education and the >>>>>>> government >>>>>>> should >>>>>>> make sure that they get it. There are no proper efforts made >>>>>>> by the >>>>>>> government to make sure that all visually impaired students >>>>>>> get a >>>>>>> scribe. For this, a national and a state scribe bank will be >>>>>>> very >>>>>>> beneficial.” >>>>>>> Calling the scribe qualification law draconian, another >>>>>>> visually >>>>>>> impaired student Animesh, who has done his MA in >>>>>>> International >>>>>>> Relations from Christ University Bangalore, said, “The >>>>>>> government has >>>>>>> these rules to avoid malpractice but at the same time our >>>>>>> infrastructure is not that well developed. So first the >>>>>>> government >>>>>>> should develop a network and then come up with such >>>>>>> guidelines. Like >>>>>>> Ola and Uber, there should be online scribe pool apps >>>>>>> through >>>>>>> which we >>>>>>> can check the scribe’s qualifications and practise with >>>>>>> them.” >>>>>>> This story is produced as part of the Laadli Media >>>>>>> Fellowship >>>>>>> 2022 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.news18.com/news/education-career/form-charging-lakhs-to-offering-proxy-candidates-is-exam-scribe-service-turning-into-business-5624815.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> What’s most important is to put the person first, the >>>>>>> disability >>>>>>> second Because we all are people first. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the >>>>>>> thinking of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to >>>>>>> its >>>>>>> veracity; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. 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